[Trade] OEL(12% ret), Garland to VAN for Beagle, Eriksson, Roussel, 9th OA, 2022 2nd, 7th

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

And the Canucks aren't just a different mess?



At least I'm honest enough to admit the Flames are a mess as of currently. The Canucks did even worse though.

The ####? Did you quote my post without even reading it?

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wouldn't it have been smarter to just ride out the next year and then add to a young core with the cap space that opened?

So now you fix it for one year, but then potentially have a much bigger long term problem.

It's like the Suter buyout? Why? He's still in your top four. So you fix one year and then quietly watch the league for four more?

Wow, we agree on something on back-to-back days. Isn't that a sign of the coming apocalypse?

[d_phaneuf]

Garland is really really good, super strong top 9 now

OEL is an upgrade on edler

I'm choosing not to look at the years past next year at this point

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Soooo...still hoping K. Johnson is available at #9?

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

$19M for Myers, Schmidt and OEL... is that the most money, for the worst combination of 3 defensemen ever?

Can anyone think of a worse, and more expensive combo?

San Jose’s current combo? Gives it a run fir the money for sure.

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Soooo...still hoping K. Johnson is available at #9?

I hope Photon fires you next.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wouldn't it have been smarter to just ride out the next year and then add to a young core with the cap space that opened?

So now you fix it for one year, but then potentially have a much bigger long term problem.

It's like the Suter buyout? Why? He's still in your top four. So you fix one year and then quietly watch the league for four more?

And they missed adding a pretty good prospect to continue to build.
I think they've now leaped-frogged the Flames in terms of erroring to try and contend now.
Though I'm not going to pretend that Garland isn't a nice piece that gives them some elements in their forward group that will help.
But that OEL deal - good grief.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Toonage

They're out Krakening the Kraken. Or what the Kraken should be doing.

Francis is leisurely unlocking the front door to the shop and flipping the OPEN sign while Armstrong has been hurling cap space out the back of a van to a throng of customers since sunrise.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

Soooo...still hoping K. Johnson is available at #9?

The mayor Elect?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Wouldn't it have been smarter to just ride out the next year and then add to a young core with the cap space that opened?

So now you fix it for one year, but then potentially have a much bigger long term problem.

It's like the Suter buyout? Why? He's still in your top four. So you fix one year and then quietly watch the league for four more?

Exactly. The only difference is you have two less picks (including 9oa this year) and you have a small scoring RW who I assume takes second line minutes behind Boeser, on a line with Horvat and either Hoglander or Miller.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Garland is really really good, super strong top 9 now

OEL is an upgrade on edler

I'm choosing not to look at the years past next year at this point

And yet they will arrive on time just the same.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Garland is really really good, super strong top 9 now

OEL is an upgrade on edler

I'm choosing not to look at the years past next year at this point

Edler was gone for free. Depending on what you are looking for, Barrie, Suter, Hamilton, Savard, Murray, Vatanen... all out there without picking up that huge contract and sending picks away.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Exactly. The only difference is you have two less picks (including 9oa this year) and you have a small scoring RW who I assume takes second line minutes behind Boeser, on a line with Horvat and either Hoglander or Miller.

The Garland thing is the one saving grace, hes been really good

So if the lotto line stays together they have

Horvat, garland, hoglander, pearson, podkolzin, dickinson to put together the middle 6 in some combo

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

Wow, we agree on something on back-to-back days. Isn't that a sign of the coming apocalypse?

I also agreed that a $2M house is worth more than a $200K house.

[Aarongavey]

As a Flames fan, this is a very good trade. Benning is looking out for Flames fans and their interests longterm. Having OEL and Schmidt anchor that defence for the next 4 years is fantastic.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

The OEL contract was like the defenseman equivalent of the Skinner contract.

So it gives me some hope for the Skinner contract to move, some day.

I mean you can say that but there are apparently stupid general managers who still think OEL is good based on who he used to be. It's sort of like Seabrook. Skinner doesn't even have that "well he used to be that good" factor - he was never really a 9M player.

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Exactly. The only difference is you have two less picks (including 9oa this year) and you have a small scoring RW who I assume takes second line minutes behind Boeser, on a line with Horvat and either Hoglander or Miller.

I was looking at their capfriendly page and I realized they have Podkolzin coming over, who you'd have to think they want to put into the top 6 as a RW... so what does this mean? They don't have any faith in their former 1st round RW? Or they're trading Brock Boeser?

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

And yet they will arrive on time just the same.

I'm covering my ears and screaming nananananananananananana I cant hear you

[cannon7]

Originally Posted by Bingo

It's like the Suter buyout? Why? He's still in your top four. So you fix one year and then quietly watch the league for four more?

They bought him out so they wouldn't have to expose Dumbba or one of their other younger d-men.

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I mean you can say that but there are apparently stupid general managers who still think OEL is good based on who he used to be. It's sort of like Seabrook. Skinner doesn't even have that "well he used to be that good" factor - he was never really a 9M player.

I was looking at their capfriendly page and I realized they have Podkolzin coming over, who you'd have to think they want to put into the top 6 as a RW... so what does this mean? They don't have any faith in their former 1st round RW? Or they're trading Brock Boeser?

Podkolzin and hoglander can both play either wing

Podkolzin makes a ton of sense to start with Dickinson too

[Aarongavey]

This trade should take the Canucks out of the Wright sweepstakes as it should improve them for next year.