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Old 04-06-2023, 10:05 PM   #2281
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Did they just resurrect Data coming up to Easter weekend? I think maybe they Jesus'd Data.
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Old 04-07-2023, 07:42 AM   #2282
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Changeling can survive in space. Shrike was an easy target in the end. But I agree that I enjoyed the last half of the episode.
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Old 04-07-2023, 11:01 AM   #2283
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I thought the episode was pretty good if you turn off your brain and just enjoy it.

Did the Changeling's forget how to turn into space whales ala Laas? I'm also hating the trope of things freezing instantly in space and shattering like T-1000. In space if you get ejected into vacuum, it takes more than a minute and half for you to suffocate and more than 12-20 hours before you actually freeze solid. Quickest way for you to die is holding your breath and explosively decompressing due to pressure difference between your lungs and vacuum. Vladic looked like she had liquid nitrogen poured on her.

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Did they just resurrect Data coming up to Easter weekend? I think maybe they Jesus'd Data.
Give it 3 days and re-evaluate.
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Old 04-07-2023, 12:43 PM   #2285
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I really enjoyed that episode. Loved seeing the entire crew back together, and Data retaking control of the Titan was great.
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Old 04-07-2023, 01:17 PM   #2286
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Despite being evolved and fool scanners, these Changelings aren't half as good as the DS9 ones. They suck at fighting. Raffi can beat them with two sticks. Remember in Episode One of DS9 where Nog threw a weapon of some kind that just went through Odo? If they could really take any form, why humanoid? It would be so much scarier if they just kept changing shape and phasing through everything. I too was also totally expecting a space whale at the end there and not the T-1000 liquid nitrogen treatment. Also, why blow up the super-powerful enemy ship when you can board it and learn something about them? I am sure it would have some strategic uses.
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I thought the episode was pretty good if you turn off your brain and just enjoy it.

Did the Changeling's forget how to turn into space whales ala Laas? I'm also hating the trope of things freezing instantly in space and shattering like T-1000. In space if you get ejected into vacuum, it takes more than a minute and half for you to suffocate and more than 12-20 hours before you actually freeze solid. Quickest way for you to die is holding your breath and explosively decompressing due to pressure difference between your lungs and vacuum. Vladic looked like she had liquid nitrogen poured on her.
Wouldn't it be basically absolute zero out there? I'd think you'd be a block of ice pretty quickly. Humans, anyway. No idea about the thermodynamic properties fo shape shifters.

Are they done for, or can they re-assemble themselves? Didn't watch much DS9.
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Old 04-07-2023, 02:34 PM   #2288
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Data with Lore's capricious playful malice was particularly delightful.


But that they Tuvix'd B4Datalore Lal Soong is unforgivable.


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Are they done for, or can they re-assemble themselves? Didn't watch much DS9.

They can survive in space and they can re-assemble. While the visual was meant to give the implication she was gone, I suspect she will be back.
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Wouldn't it be basically absolute zero out there? I'd think you'd be a block of ice pretty quickly. Humans, anyway. No idea about the thermodynamic properties fo shape shifters.

Are they done for, or can they re-assemble themselves? Didn't watch much DS9.
There is no air, liquid, nothing to conduct the heat away from your body. It's why vacuum mugs can stay hot/cold for so long. You will cool only slowly over 12-26 hours+. They should have been able to turn into space whales since other Changlings did that before in space.

https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2...ce-human-body/

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They can survive in space and they can re-assemble. While the visual was meant to give the implication she was gone, I suspect she will be back.
I doubt it. We know she wasn't the one pulling the strings, so the Big Bad will need to be revealed soon -- probably the next episode since there are only 2 left.
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The showrunner for the second and third seasons of Picard is Terry Matalas, who created the 12 Monkeys series.
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That explains a whole lot.

This is what happens to blood in a vacuum.

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A good half the episode focused on her trying to flush Jack out of hiding but… she had total control of the ship. “Computer, locate Jack Crusher and emergency beam him to the bridge” — done.
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A good half the episode focused on her trying to flush Jack out of hiding but… she had total control of the ship. “Computer, locate Jack Crusher and emergency beam him to the bridge” — done.
Honestly....Vadic was so bad...what a stupid, infuriating character.

Just with Data's little dig at 'monologuing lunatics' or whatever its hard not to see Vadic as a straight-up troll job.
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It is possible that the section 31 modified changlings cannot survive in space.

We haven't really seen them change form into anything non-humanoid besides their goo phase.

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It is possible that the section 31 modified changlings cannot survive in space.

We haven't really seen them change form into anything non-humanoid besides their goo phase.
Or its possible that the 'cure' that Starfleet gave them wasnt all that great?
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I didn’t get why Data needs to be plugged in and unplugged. Don’t they have wifi or bluetooth?
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