[PGT] Blues 3 Flames 2 I'm sad edition

[CGY12]

Alpine emotional for sure, BBF handled it perfectly. Banning him for that though? Weak. Maybe I missed something.

[AC]

Originally Posted by browna

Watching him skate off each shift tonight, he was always annoyed with himself. Scared is being thrown around here, and that's not it.

Yeah I see pure frustration. For Johnny, it seems like it's easy to let a missed pass or shot get to him and cause more mistakes. When Johnny is "off" it feels like he tries to have the puck too often and makes even riskier passes, only making things worse.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Scorch

Alpine got banned for his comment yet this unnecessary comment still stands?

C’mon mods

I understand Scorch sympathizing with someone whose time was over too soon.

[The Yen Man]

Man, lots of anger for a game that I thought could have gone either way. Flames lost in OT, it happens. Either team could have gotten the extra point. Sucks that Flames didn't, but can't win them all. They played the cup Champs pretty evenly imo.

Flames have played the most games of anyone in the league and had that monster 10 day road trip across the continent. Hope the boys get some good rest in the next couple of days and come out playing well against the Stars next game.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

So in all the PGT turmoil, have been thinking about Johnny.

He will be fine but what can he do to elevate his game and deal with this style of heavy hockey come playoff time?

Are there examples of other smaller JG type players who have been able to make the required adjustments? Patrick Kane?

Yeah, he has to fully commit to being a top player in the league with diet and fitness.

Being undisciplined off the ice translates to play on the ice.

As Kane enters his 30s, he is more keenly aware of his body and what it will take for him to stay elite for as long as he'd like to. He says he has been more conscious of his nutrition over the past few seasons -- he much prefers his girlfriend's home-cooked dinners these days over restaurants -- and monitors his sleep. He likes to get nine hours per night for optimal performance. If he has to wake up at 8:30 a.m., for instance, he'll try to be in bed by 11. On an off day, when he used to be fine just sitting on the couch, Kane is deliberate about making sure he does at least something active.

In addition, Kane’s strong work ethic serves as an impressive example to the other hockey players in Mack’s program.

“He pace rabbits, because he works so hard,” Mack said. “He’s one of those guys who shows up early, stays late, does everything he’s supposed to do, always. He can tell you what he’s eating next Wednesday at 10:30 a.m. He knows how many hours he’s going to sleep.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by browna

If tonight wasn't a classic case of squeezing a stick too tight, not sure what is, as far as Gaudreau. He couldn't handle a pass, or outside of a third period stick handle through 3 Blues in neutral zone. Same on OT goal. He's lacking confidence which goes without saying, and this game was about as blatant as could be as far as trying too hard.

Watching him skate off each shift tonight, he was always annoyed with himself. Scared is being thrown around here, mad that's not it.

Big fan of Johnny, however I have said from the start that his mental preparation and in game resetting is a huge challenge for him. He seems to be frustrated more often than not.

I don’t believe he has been mentally/ physically committed to paying the price in the last 3 months of last season( including playoffs) and the start of this season.

Confidence is a result of doing the little things right over and over.

His early career mental and physical courage has dissipated substantially.

Yes, he looks scared out there.

The frustration and negative energy he displays is the tell tale sign of a weak player.

It’s up to him to become a better competitor.

Patrick Kane has been successful at it. Why not Johnny?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by browna

If tonight wasn't a classic case of squeezing a stick too tight, not sure what is, as far as Gaudreau. He couldn't handle a pass, or outside of a third period stick handle through 3 Blues in neutral zone. Same on OT goal. He's lacking confidence which goes without saying, and this game was about as blatant as could be as far as trying too hard.

Watching him skate off each shift tonight, he was always annoyed with himself. Scared is being thrown around here, and that's not it.

I think t was Loubardias the other day who said that Johnny looks like he isn't having fun playing right now. For whatever reason it is.

He's right. The always smiling/growling/yelling enthusiastic small guy who couldn't see an obstacle big enough to stop him and his love for the game, seems to have found one.

Really hope he figures it out soon and gets it dealt with what ever it is. Until then its going to keep looking like this. He has been awful regardless of some offense on the season.

Everyone knows how good he can be...but he aint anywhere close to that right now.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by AC

Yeah I see pure frustration. For Johnny, it seems like it's easy to let a missed pass or shot get to him and cause more mistakes. When Johnny is "off" it feels like he tries to have the puck too often and makes even riskier passes, only making things worse.

Looks to me like he’s thinking. He tried a backhand dump deep in the 3rd that was a total whiff. That’s so not a Johnny play. It was like his body rejected what his head wanted to do.

We’ll see how the season goes, but I think in the last 1/4 of last year and the first 1/4 of this one he’s trying to evolve. He’s safe,safe,safe, then gets frustrated and tries something he shouldn’t. Maybe it will catch and he’ll be an 80 pt player who plays in the last 2 mins up by one. Or maybe he goes back to Bernie Nichols 80s hockey and accepts it. Either way I think his game will improve.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Gaudreau needs to be a hell of a lot better.

...we also need more dynamic offensive players and shouldn’t rely so heavily on him.

Gaudreau needs to watch some games from the press box.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I think t was Loubardias the other day who said that Johnny looks like he isn't having fun playing right now. For whatever reason it is.

He's right. The always smiling/growling/yelling enthusiastic small guy who couldn't see an obstacle big enough to stop him and his love for the game, seems to have found one.

Really hope he figures it out soon and gets it dealt with what ever it is. Until then its going to keep looking like this. He has been awful regardless of some offense on the season.

Everyone knows how good he can be...but he aint anywhere close to that right now.

Call it coincidence but last year, all star break time, the purple Gatorade vanished and Johnny started his funk.

He has the talent to put up 70 points in a bad mood. Hope he identifies and cleans up the root cause of this funk

[AC]

Originally Posted by Dion

Gaudreau needs to watch some games from the press box.

I think that would be a dumb idea.

It also won't happen.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I think t was Loubardias the other day who said that Johnny looks like he isn't having fun playing right now. For whatever reason it is.

He's right. The always smiling/growling/yelling enthusiastic small guy who couldn't see an obstacle big enough to stop him and his love for the game, seems to have found one.

Really hope he figures it out soon and gets it dealt with what ever it is. Until then its going to keep looking like this. He has been awful regardless of some offense on the season.

Everyone knows how good he can be...but he aint anywhere close to that right now.

Slowed down body language, dull interviews and a continuous frustrated look on his face usually means ongoing personal problems, I know they get payed a lot to be professional but they aren't robots.

Lou probably knows there's a problem but obviously can't say anything

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Slowed down body language, dull interviews and a continuous frustrated look on his face usually means ongoing personal problems, I know they get payed a lot to be professional but they aren't robots.

Lou probably knows there's a problem but obviously can't say anything

It’s up to the coaching staff and management to make Johnny aware of what they see as “improvement areas” in his life and game.

It’s up to Johnny to hear them and make changes, despite his large and guaranteed contract.

If he wants to be a champion.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by AC

I think that would be a dumb idea.

It also won't happen.

I know it's not going to happen. They need to do something to get him out of his funk. Maybe some time in the video room going over the plays he tries to make. Help to install some confidence in him.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Dion

I know it's not going to happen. They need to do something to get him out of his funk. Maybe some time in the video room going over the plays he tries to make. Help to install some confidence in him.

Maybe turn down the lights, put some smooth music on the stereo, and pour a nice decanter full of purple gato.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

I feel bad now, I didn't want him to be banned. But thanks to all of you who were kind to me with that situation. I love CP.

Much respect to you. So many people would have been triggered

[Rejean31]

Originally Posted by soulchoice

Is it just me or does it seem like there is something very off with Johnny this year. It’s not just his production(as he is still picking up some points). But he seems to have very little zest or enthusiasm thus far into the season. Almost like he isn’t enjoying himself. Pouting, defensively sub par, unwilling to give 100 percent or so it appears.

I mean he’s always been a bit of a whiner when it comes to the refs, so the pouting isn’t new for that regard. But just overall it seems like he isn’t the same. He still has the ability to make plays and passes, threading the needle. But something is different this year.

Rarely seems to smile or just doesn’t look like he’s having fun at all. The do anything and take control Johnny we have been used to in the past isn’t around. I remember when he wanted the puck when the game is on the line.

In fairness he has always disappeared when games get physical. But even when it’s not this year, he isn’t the same.

Let me guess, you listened to Eric Francis on Friday. All this crap about Johnny not enjoying himself and seeming different is fake news dreamt up by idiots like Francis. He is in a bit of a slump. It happens. God, next Francis will be saying he wants to be traded!!

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I think t was Loubardias the other day who said that Johnny looks like he isn't having fun playing right now. For whatever reason it is.

He's right. The always smiling/growling/yelling enthusiastic small guy who couldn't see an obstacle big enough to stop him and his love for the game, seems to have found one.

Really hope he figures it out soon and gets it dealt with what ever it is. Until then its going to keep looking like this. He has been awful regardless of some offense on the season.

Everyone knows how good he can be...but he aint anywhere close to that right now.

Quarter life crisis?

Change of results starts with you changing something. Approaching the game the same way, with the same routines (of lack thereof), diet, pre-game prep will lend itself to similar results because internally you know you're doing nothing different. Changing a couple of those in a notable way is a good way to put yourself into a different frame of mind, because you know that you're changing your old pattern, so mentally you open yourself up to the possibility of a ripple effect from those new habits. So much is mental and sometimes you have to do a little reprogramming to see differences externally, even if you're tricking your brain in a way because you're really not changing a whole lot.

Gaudreau could benefit from a change of routine, gear, meals, activities. The whole situation just screams "stale" and "stuck". He needs some reasons to feel like tomorrow stepping on the ice is different than today.

[Bourque's Twin]

I’d love to see the PGT if the Flames won in OT. We would be planning the cup parade. All it takes is one bounce. Instead we want to trade Gaudreau. Come on.

I was at the game and I thought it was very very even and could’ve gone either way. We just came back from 2-0 in the 3rd against the #1 team in the west and defending champs.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by BigBrodieFan

I feel bad now, I didn't want him to be banned. But thanks to all of you who were kind to me with that situation. I love CP.

His comments towards you were over the top.