From what i heard after the UK gun ban patrol officers stopped carrying pistols in hopes that criminals wouldn't arm themselfs in fear of being shot during a simple robbery..etc. polls show that people feel just as safe without the officers carrying as well.
But if something serious goes down the bobbys have lots of guns, they have "armory" vehicles every few blocks and the big cities have huge tac squads.
As for the question, I would rather have a trained cop with a gun if it means saving an innocent life from some nutcase. but I certainly don't want to see a cop armed with machine guns on every corner which is what the NRA would love.
Police in the US have been heavily militarized. Thank the Obama Administration and the DoHS for that.
I'm just not sure how you can trust a fraud like Piers Morgan. What bothers me is he gets the most extreme guests on his show to further his anti-gun agenda. What is Piers trying to prove? He was wrong on the amount of gun murders in the UK, he claimed there were 35 gun murders in 2011. Britain actually had 59 gun related murders. I'l just let you watch the video, Ben Swann destroys Piers logic.
Yay the US is less violent than Honduras and Jamaica theres a stat to be proud of!
Of course all off this falls apart if you start to compare how crime data is gathered and europe is significantly better policed and so more prone to charge than the US, it is all but impossible to compare violent crime rates as they are so much more affected by policing, homocide is about the only stat that can be compared across the board.
Gun killings in Chicago seem to be following Obama,first a young girl standing behind him during his speech after the school massacre and now a sister of a young girl standing behind during his SOTU speech last week has be killed.
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Hours after her younger sister stood behind President Barack Obama during his gun violence speech last week, an Illinois teen died when a bullet found her in a North Chicago alley.
Two people were being questioned Monday as police worked to piece together the final moments of 18-year-old Janay McFarlane, who left behind a 3-month-old son.
Gun killings in Chicago seem to be following Obama,first a young girl standing behind him during his speech after the school massacre and now a sister of a young girl standing behind during his SOTU speech last week has be killed.
So I like the idea of forcing gun owners to buy insurance if they purchase firearms.
Personally I think you take it a step further and have to purchase a $50,000 do no harm bond if you purchase or have a fire arm in your house that is refundable if you sell your gun back to the dealer that sold it to you.
I think if you buy a military grade weapon then the bond doubles.
That way if you stupidly shoot someone by mistake you can cover their health care or funeral costs.
Are you going to do the same thing for knives as well?
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I don't hunt so I really don't see the need for any civilian to have access to a gun. I simply don't see any good coming out of it as humans are simply too unstable in general to have easy access to devices made solely to kill.
Are you going to do the same thing for knives as well?
Hunting kives sure. You have to draw the line somewhere but guns serve only one purpose which is to kill. Technically anything out of a toolbox or kitchen drawer could be used as a weapon but that's not their purpose. Guns make killing too convienient. Too easy.
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DHS is the sugar daddy funding the trend toward militarization, but local PD have been heading in that direction for much longer than 4 years.
Are you talking specifically about the recent bulk ammo purchases?
Not as much the ammo, and the huge influx of military equipment finding its way into the hands of people that have no idea what to do with it.
The ammo purchasing is a non-issue to me. There is a shortage....so if they purchase it bulk to give local police a better deal, great. They can use more for training.
You have a huge problem with 'guns'...and constantly go on and on about how evil they are, but when it is mentioned that large scale military equipment like 'drones' are being used by police departments all over the country despite serious lack of training and regulation, you say its delusional paranoia.
And I'm not talking about the city of LA either. I'm talking about small-town cops.
So I think we all know who is delusional here.
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You have a huge problem with 'guns'...and constantly go on and on about how evil they are, but when it is mentioned that large scale military equipment like 'drones' are being used by police departments all over the country despite serious lack of training and regulation, you say its delusional paranoia.
And I'm not talking about the city of LA either. I'm talking about small-town cops.
So I think we all know who is delusional here.
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Are you going to do the same thing for knives as well?
Big difference in my mind. Guns are a long range device designed to specifically fire a piece of metal and fantastic velocity which if done properly will strike and kill a target. Its really built for no other reason but that, on top of that if you miss there's a larger chance of killing someone innocent.
A knife is far different, its extremely short range so its killing aspect is highly limited, it doesn't really take out a lot of innocent people due to improper usage unless your throwing it.
The second amendment gives American's the right to bear arms, but I don't see where it guarantees cheap and easy access to owning a fire arm.
At least if you force insurance or do no harm bonds it will make it more difficult and expensive for people to buy arms.
And if you fire a weapon and hurt someone and don't have insurance it should be reflected in your sentence.
Plus the money raised by insurance and bonds could be used to improve the screening processes and aid law enforcement and education.
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You have a huge problem with 'guns'...and constantly go on and on about how evil they are, but when it is mentioned that large scale military equipment like 'drones' are being used by police departments all over the country despite serious lack of training and regulation, you say its delusional paranoia.
And I'm not talking about the city of LA either. I'm talking about small-town cops.
So I think we all know who is delusional here.
What the?
Aside from the fact, that I think you are a good candidate to go all Doomsday Preppers, I'm going to have to guess what your point is.
Are you saying that because I am concerned with the fact that people , with or without mental/drug/gang/anger etc etc. problems can carry around unlicensed, undocumented, unregistered guns that kill 13,000 people/year, that I should be equally concerned with the drones that small police depts. have?
(CNN) – In a major defeat for supporters of tougher gun laws, the Senate on Wednesday defeated a compromise proposal to expand background checks on firearms sales.
The bipartisan compromise was championed by Sens. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va. and Pat Toomey, R-Pa., and backed by President Barack Obama in his push for a package of gun laws in the aftermath of the Newtown school massacre.
"On this vote, the yays are 54, the nays are 46. Under the previous order requiring 60 votes for the adoption of this amendment, the amendment is not agreed to," said Vice President Joe Biden, who presided over the vote in his role as president of the Senate.
