Iran

[Mathgod]

Ok... but would you be willing to admit that Doctorfever's post was very provocative, in that he tried to frame this whole thing as Trump being some sort of saviour for the Iranian people?

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Ok... but would you be willing to admit that Doctorfever's post was very provocative, in that he tried to frame this whole thing as Trump being some sort of saviour for the Iranian people?

Sure, you could interpret it that way. But unless he called you out by name, why not just scroll on by? It's not intentional trolling.

Unless we're saying supporting Trump is not allowed as a blanket rule. That would be pretty censorious though.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Ok... but would you be willing to admit that Doctorfever's post was very provocative, in that he tried to frame this whole thing as Trump being some sort of saviour for the Iranian people?

lol.

Hundreds of thousands of Iranian people are celebrating. Let them have a day.
Everyone knows it’s not over. Not by a long shot.
But after this regime killed 30000+ of its own citizens recently, there is reason to celebrate their death.

Not everything has to be about Trump.

[cam_calderon]

Clearly people have pretty partisan views on here, I'm no exception. But it does feel like only left wing views are allowed sometimes, or all hell breaks loose.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

lol.

Hundreds of thousands of Iranian people are celebrating. Let them have a day.
Everyone knows it’s not over. Not by a long shot.
But after this regime killed 30000+ of its own citizens recently, there is reason to celebrate their death.

Not everything has to be about Trump.

Oh please. "Make Iran Great Again seems to be trending." and we're supposed to pretend that wasn't pro-Trump messaging.

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Oh please. "Make Iran Great Again seems to be trending." and we're supposed to pretend that wasn't pro-Trump messaging.

https://x.com/Jokernejad/status/1936910845801275404

https://twitter.com/user/status/1936910845801275404

I will conceded that many Iranians seem to be using it as messaging to thank Trump.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Clearly people have pretty partisan views on here, I'm no exception. But it does feel like only left wing views are allowed sometimes, or all hell breaks loose.

That's mostly a product of right wing views being wrong.

If you're going to post on here about things that are clearly, morally, and scientifically wrong, you're going to get stomped.

I'm sorry that the right wing was co-opted by grifters and Nazi's for their own ends in the United States. But they've fed the right wing base misinformation for decades, and the result is that where there are bastions of educated, well informed, and empathetic people, those right wing views aren't well received.

To put it bluntly:

• Science is good
• Religious fundamentalism is bad
• Racism exists
• The experts are better than your Facebook feed
• Brown people aren't stealing from you
• You don't need to own a gun
• Most of your problems are the result of your choices, not drag queens
• What you saw on Fox News isn't true

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Sure, you could interpret it that way. But unless he called you out by name, why not just scroll on by? It's not intentional trolling.

Unless we're saying supporting Trump is not allowed as a blanket rule. That would be pretty censorious though.

It absolutely is, and frankly it's kinda interesting to see that claim given their posts in the past. It's not "bullying" to call out a troll. It's not "bullying" to talk down to someone who continually shows up, spouts bull####, then sea-lions for the rest of the day.


Pretending it is something it is not, just because some of your views line up with theirs is not helpful at all. Just tricking yourself into standing by someone who's proven themselves time and time again to be truly awful.

[Ped]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

• Brown people aren't stealing from you

Well some of them are because people are terrible, but not nearly as much as the rich white people are stealing from you

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It absolutely is, and frankly it's kinda interesting to see that claim given their posts in the past. It's not "bullying" to call out a troll. It's not "bullying" to talk down to someone who continually shows up, spouts bull####, then sea-lions for the rest of the day.


Pretending it is something it is not, just because some of your views line up with theirs is not helpful at all. Just tricking yourself into standing by someone who's proven themselves time and time again to be truly awful.

Looch laid it out pretty plainly with the first response so not sure you’re getting anywhere re-explaining it to someone clearly playing dumb.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Sure, you could interpret it that way. But unless he called you out by name, why not just scroll on by? It's not intentional trolling.

Yes it is. He's always provocative, frames everything as left v right, and doesn't engage in any actual discussion just throws comments at the same people to try to get a rise out of them. He's just Yoho without the tweets

[Ped]

I agree with Pepsi that trying to explain things to a poster who has "Matthew Tkachuk apologist" as his signature is probably pretty pointless.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Yes it is. He's always provocative, frames everything as left v right, and doesn't engage in any actual discussion just throws comments at the same people to try to get a rise out of them. He's just Yoho without the tweets

And they always rise to the bait. There's a handful of posters who need to be put into an octagon thread and take a break from some of the other threads.

[TherapyforGlencross]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

Not disputing that. Anyone can see there's more pain to come in the near term before things get better in Iran, there were obviously contingency plans in place for this regime.

The people are still allowed to be glad, kinda weird how the resident soyboys are gatekeeping their emotions.

I tend to agree that people are more than welcome to celebrate a tyrants death. But let’s not act like the pain has subsided from Iraq. It’s been 22 years since 2003 and Iraq hasn’t developed at all and is currently a wasteland

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

https://x.com/Jokernejad/status/1936910845801275404

https://twitter.com/user/status/1936910845801275404

I will conceded that many Iranians seem to be using it as messaging to thank Trump.

Your choice to specifically spotlight that, without any context (such as who posted that particular messaging and imagery, which is very obviously Iran's version of MAGA, and why, and how much of that "trending" was legit Iranians vs bots), is clearly an attempt to carry water for Trump.

And coming from a poster who is routinely pro-Trump, it would be rather unusual for you to post something that "has nothing to do with Trump" (even though this strike on Iran has everything to do with Trump).

So yeah, pardon my incredulity. "Nothing to do with Trump" my ass...

[puffnstuff]

Appears they may be replacing Ayatollah Khamenei with Ayatollah Khamenei.
Leading contender to replace the previous leader is...his son.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Appears they may be replacing Ayatollah Khamenei with Ayatollah Khamenei.
Leading contender to replace the previous leader is...his son.

Iran Government budgeting issues led to this less than optimal choice. A lot of name plaques to change out after 40 years.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Appears they may be replacing Ayatollah Khamenei with Ayatollah Khamenei.
Leading contender to replace the previous leader is...his son.

I believe that was always the plan of succession.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Appears they may be replacing Ayatollah Khamenei with Ayatollah Khamenei.
Leading contender to replace the previous leader is...his son.

“He was slated to become the successor for a long time,” Mr. Nasr said, “but for the past two years, it seemed to have dropped off from the radar. If he is elected, it suggests it is a much more hard-line Revolutionary Guard side of the regime that is now in charge.”

Mojtaba Khamenei, 56, is an influential if reclusive figure who has operated in the shadows of the empire of his father, who was killed on Saturday in the U.S.-Israeli strikes on Iran.

Mr. Khamenei is known for having close ties to the Revolutionary Guards. The Guards, according to the three officials, pushed for his appointment, arguing that he had the qualifications needed to steer Iran in this time of crisis.

“Mojtaba is the wisest pick right now because he is intimately familiar with running and coordinating security and military apparatuses,” said Mehdi Rahmati, an analyst in Tehran. “He was in charge of this already.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2026/03...-lebanon-trump

Don't imagine he'll last long if so.

[Manhattanboy]

Mr. Khamenei sounds like a wonderful choice to lead the people of Iran.