07-16-2007, 12:50 PM
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#121
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Originally Posted by RyZ
I read that from 8 feet away or more on a TV that is 50" or less the human eye can't detect the difference between 1080p and 720p. Any truth to this?
I have a 37" Sharp Aquos (720p) and my friend ha s 42" Samsung (1080p) and I can't tell the difference from where we sit (Appx 10' at both houses). As a matter of fact (may be biased towards my own gear) I think my TV has a better picture when watching HD content and playing HD video games.
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True.
The human eye has only so much ability to detect detail.
There are charts the give rules of thumb for minimum resolutions at certain screen sizes and certain distances. If you sit pretty close to a big screen, you may notice the pixels on a 720p, whereas on a 1080p it would be fine.
If you are 10' away, you really won't start to notice a difference until the screen size is 50" or greater.
On top of that, each screen can have different colour levels, contrast, black levels, and so on that will make a huge difference in your enjoyment.
So between you and your friend, you probably won't notice a resolution difference (at least not until you sit a lot closer), but you probably do notice your TV is either set up better, or gives much better colour and contrast.
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08-03-2007, 09:48 PM
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#122
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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I bought a 32" Sharp Aquos LC-32D62U a couple of months ago and have been extremely happy.
I'm not yet willing to go to a Blu-Ray or HD DVD, so am looking at upconverting DVD players like the Samsung DVD-HD960.
Any opinions on the technology in general and possibly that model in particular?
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08-07-2007, 04:50 PM
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#123
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Scoring Winger
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anyone know what I can use to clean my DLP TV screen? The guys who installed it said not to use any spray etc to clean it. But something dripped on the screen so now it has a couple streaks on it. Anyone know the best way to get rid of it?
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08-07-2007, 06:01 PM
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#124
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Hm, not sure but I use monitor wipes to clean my LCD TV, I assume they'd work on that too.
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08-08-2007, 08:00 PM
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#125
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Canada
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I am biased...but go with the Sony
I have the 46" XBR2...1080p (the only way to go) personally I think it's nicer than the XBR3...not much electronic difference
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08-08-2007, 09:50 PM
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#126
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Nice TV!
I just got my projector in today! Can't wait for my basement development to finish so I can set it up. Hello 92" screen!
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08-08-2007, 09:52 PM
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#127
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
Nice TV!
I just got my projector in today! Can't wait for my basement development to finish so I can set it up. Hello 92" screen!
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What type of a screen are you going to use?
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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08-08-2007, 09:57 PM
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#128
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Heh, I don't know yet. I'm not positive on the size yet, so I haven't got the screen. want to set it up and play around with it to see how big/small I want. I could go down to 80", or if I go off centre on my wall (might have to to make it look natural with what else is there) I could even go over 100" I think.
And they're so expensive too. I've been reading the DIY section on avforums too, might go that route.
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08-08-2007, 10:00 PM
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#129
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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I was reading someone on Ars who was talking about putting the centre channel in the wall behind and using an acoustically invisible material. I'm guessing that would be expensive.
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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08-08-2007, 10:19 PM
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#130
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Yeah I've read about that too.. I don't think it's too bad compared to a good quality screen. In my case I'm not taking up the whole wall vertically with the screen so I have lots of room for a centre channel (I have 9' ceilings in the basement where this is going).
Some people do it so that dialog seems to come from the centre of the screen instead of above or below it. In that case, I'd rather just spend a few hundred on a second centre channel speaker and mount it so that there's one below and above the screen, then dialog sounds like it comes from the centre. Of course you need an amp then that'll handle either 2 centres or a 4 ohm centre if you wire them in parallel.
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08-08-2007, 10:20 PM
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#131
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/...91712124636532
Pics of the basement, there's paint and stuff now I'll post some more current pics later.
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08-08-2007, 10:42 PM
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#132
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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Do you have good blinds to block out the light from the windows?
That has always been my concern about a projector - how dark does it need to be?
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"The problem with any ideology is that it gives the answer before you look at the evidence."
—Bill Clinton
"The greatest obstacle to discovery is not ignorance--it is the illusion of knowledge."
—Daniel J. Boorstin, historian, former Librarian of Congress
"But the Senator, while insisting he was not intoxicated, could not explain his nudity"
—WKRP in Cincinatti
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08-08-2007, 10:59 PM
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#133
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Yeah that's going to be interesting, I'm curious too. I've read though that the newer ones have a much better contrast ratio and throw out more light so it's less of an issue, plus the screen is a factor as well. If you have a perfect light sealed room you can get grey screens with gains below 1.0 to get better colour and blacker blacks, or if you have a room with not perfect light control (like mine is) then you can get screens with gains from 1.1 to 1.4 to compensate (at the expense of contrast and black depth).
My wife wants curtains on there too, so between some good cellular blinds with the light stopping backing and thicker curtains I think we can do a pretty good job of it.
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08-09-2007, 07:54 AM
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#134
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehead
I was reading someone on Ars who was talking about putting the centre channel in the wall behind and using an acoustically invisible material. I'm guessing that would be expensive.
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That's also where the centre speakers are in a movie theatre. The trick I use when setting up a home theatre is to place the centre speaker as far behind the screen as possible; for example with an old style rear projection TV I would get a cheap shelf and place it on the wall.
It's also one of the reasons I don't want to mount my LCD on the wall; on a stand I can still have the centre channel placed correctly.
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08-09-2007, 04:55 PM
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#135
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
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What's the thing in the corner? Pizza oven?
Ceiling looks awesome. I am glad I am not your friend though. Would be a bitch to mud and tape.
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08-09-2007, 09:48 PM
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#136
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Lol, that's a fireplace. Got a really nice face for it too, and we're going to tile that whole part that it's on, will look really nice I think
Yeah, my dad's doing all the work. We're paying him well of course, because he's the only one I know that I can trust with doing the work.. and yeah that was his comment about it to, it was a real pain to do. He does good work though
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08-13-2007, 09:39 AM
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Sleazy Banker
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Cold Lake Alberta Canada
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I need the help of the CP faithful.
wifey has given the go ahead to purchase a new TV for our new home.
I am just a little bit confused as to what the difference is between these two seemingly similar TV's
Sharp Aquos 1080p 46" LCD HDTV** (LC46D82U) $2799.98 at Best Buy
Sharp Aquos 1080p 46" LCD HDTV** (LC46D62U) $2499.98 at Best Buy
besides about a $300.00 difference in price. Will I actually notice the difference? I own a StarChoice Dish and will of course upgrade to the HD receiver.
And can these TV;s be purchased anywhere cheaper???
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08-13-2007, 09:55 AM
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#138
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Yeah there's a pretty big difference between the two. The 62U is a normal 60Hz refresh LCD, where the 82U is a 120Hz panel. That means two things. Images look smoother on the 120Hz panel (less wipe when fast movements happen).
The big thing for movie freaks is while 60Hz can't evenly be divided by 24, 120 can be. Movies are filmed in 24fps. So while a normal DVD has to go through a conversion (3:2 pulldown I think it's called) to convert the number of frames per second from the original source, the new high def movies can be displayed properly on 120Hz LCDs.
So for Starchoice viewing, there probably won't be a huge difference (though I think it would be noticable), while with movies I think it'd be a pretty significant difference. I've never seen a 120Hz panel live myself though, and everyone is different (some people would see a huge difference, some would see none).
Do what I did, just buy both and try them out!  Annoying to return a 46" TV, but then you can be sure you like it.
For prices, Best Buy/Future Shop are usually pretty good, sometimes other places like Visions, Sounsurround, etc have sales on and they're cheaper. Costco has a 52" Aquos on for $3600 on their site, they may ones in store as well.
www.redflagdeals.com is a good site to go to to check out deals for TVs and stuff.
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Originally Posted by Sample00
I need the help of the CP faithful.
wifey has given the go ahead to purchase a new TV for our new home.
I am just a little bit confused as to what the difference is between these two seemingly similar TV's
Sharp Aquos 1080p 46" LCD HDTV** (LC46D82U) $2799.98 at Best Buy
Sharp Aquos 1080p 46" LCD HDTV** (LC46D62U) $2499.98 at Best Buy
besides about a $300.00 difference in price. Will I actually notice the difference? I own a StarChoice Dish and will of course upgrade to the HD receiver.
And can these TV;s be purchased anywhere cheaper???
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08-13-2007, 10:01 AM
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#139
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Sleazy Banker
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Cold Lake Alberta Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
For prices, Best Buy/Future Shop are usually pretty good, sometimes other places like Visions, Sounsurround, etc have sales on and they're cheaper. Costco has a 52" Aquos on for $3600 on their site, they may ones in store as well.
www.redflagdeals.com is a good site to go to to check out deals for TVs and stuff.
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Thank you for all the good information, Photon. I had absolutely no idea there was such a difference.
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08-13-2007, 03:08 PM
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#140
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Actually I'm suprised that the difference is only $300!
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