NASA targeting launch of giant moon rocket for late August

[Coach]

The lighting systems didn't exist (and still don't, except in CGI space) to create the length of non-diffused shadows cast by the Apollo 11 astronauts in the footage on the moon. You would have needed an impossibly large, impossibly bright array of lights, positioned impossibly far away going through a vacuum.

IE, the SUN.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by blankall

Exactly....probably not looking for another one. Especially one that would have involved an untested spacecraft and/or technology.

The idea that Nasa should just be able to easily launch someone onto the moon now, because they did it in the 60s, is kind of ridiculous. We aren't using the same tech as they did in the 1960s and many many things can go wrong during a moon launch. NASA is definitely going to run a test launch before using live people.

I don't want to do this again but...they already did, Artemis I.

I'm just being sassy, I agree with you that they are being/should be super cautions.

[Coach]

Humans and space travel is the equivalent of crossing the ocean in like the 10-14th century (which is still nothing in species-time). They were sending a voyage over few decades, at thats when they knew something was there. Before it was every hundred years or so some crazy f***er would try it and die. It wasn't a mad dash. And it was insane, and perilous, as is space travel. The fact that there is a 50 year gap between real tries is not really that weird.

We have the equivalent of a dock floating off-shore and a handful of missions to the nearest rock. Some of them tragic, as is to be expected when pushing frontiers.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Did i miss the flat earthers debating on whether the moon landing happened?

I have a great video debunking that goofiness for any hillbillies out there still in doubt.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Did i miss the flat earthers debating on whether the moon landing happened?

I have a great video debunking that goofiness for any hillbillies out there still in doubt.

An aside, how do Flat Earthers explain that you can see other planets spinning, with an amateur telescope? Is the Earth just special?

[Coach]

Originally Posted by blankall

An aside, how do Flat Earthers explain that you can see other planets spinning, with an amateur telescope? Is the Earth just special?

The Debil!

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by blankall

An aside, how do Flat Earthers explain that you can see other planets spinning, with an amateur telescope? Is the Earth just special?

Yes, that's exactly how they explain it. Most Flat-Earthers (in my experience) are hardcore Christians that believe the Earth was created by God specifically for humans to have domain over.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Yes, that's exactly how they explain it. Most Flat-Earthers (in my experience) are hardcore Christians that believe the Earth was created by God specifically for humans to have domain over.

And they even get that wrong, because it's the domain of Cats, not Gods.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Yes, that's exactly how they explain it. Most Flat-Earthers (in my experience) are hardcore Christians that believe the Earth was created by God specifically for humans to have domain over.

Still doesn’t make sense. Why couldn’t God create a round Earth to have domain over?

The only person I ever met who was actually a flat earther wasn’t religious, just a high school drop out and the biggest pot smoker I ever met. I’ve watched some videos of flat earth stuff and religion was never actually mentioned that I recall.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Still doesn’t make sense. Why couldn’t God create a round Earth to have domain over?

The only person I ever met who was actually a flat earther wasn’t religious, just a high school drop out and the biggest pot smoker I ever met. I’ve watched some videos of flat earth stuff and religion was never actually mentioned that I recall.

Did a slight bit of research.....one theory is that the other planets are projections on some kind of dome that encompasses the top flat surface of the Earth. The stars and planets don't actually exist and some

So there must be various camps of Flat Earthers....Some believe that God built a dome. Others believe it was aliens. Others believe the Earth is just kind of special, and there are other flat planets out there, but the ones in our system aren't planets like ours.

These are massive theological rifts. Do they rumble over these differences? Do we see non-religious and religious flat earthers having "rationale" conversation? Is the trick to having people have rationale debate just to have them all be united by a single even dumber belief?

[Coach]

I mean, in fairness, no one was flat Earthing in here. There were questions about the moon landing which is one of those things that I think goes one way and not necessarily the other. People who are flat-earthers definitely also believe the moon landing was fake, but believing the moon landing was fake doesn't necessarily make you automatically a flat-earther. Questions about why we haven't gone back in so long combined with movie special effects at the time become advanced enough to plausibly fake the moon landing and Cold War propaganda machines do leave a slice of room for conspiracy (despite all able to proven false wit one sentence each). There is no slice for flat-earthers. Even for a religious person. God can great a round earth as easily as a flat earth and there's no reason to believe it was made flat for any biblical purpose. There's no purpose to hold this belief beyond just trying to be a contrarian about absolutely everything.

[MarchHare]

There's no such thing as an actual flat earther, is there? As in someone who sincerely holds that belief? I always assumed they were all just internet trolls who are really committed to the bit.

[Locke]

Kubrick fooled you all with the Moon Landing! It was brilliant theater!

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

There's no such thing as an actual flat earther, is there? As in someone who sincerely holds that belief? I always assumed they were all just internet trolls who are really committed to the bit.

No, there absolutely are real flat earth believers. Same people who believe every stupid viral conspiracy theory that gets pushed down right wing rabbit holes.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

There's no such thing as an actual flat earther, is there? As in someone who sincerely holds that belief? I always assumed they were all just internet trolls who are really committed to the bit.

Sounds like you have vastly overestimated the base level reasoning abilities of humanity. It happens, we tend to be optimistic. Not to pick on religion, but some of the stuff they believe to be universally true is pretty mind blowing. A flat Earth is a reasonable thought experiment compared to, say Scientology.

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by jayswin

No, there absolutely are real flat earth believers. Same people who believe every stupid viral conspiracy theory that gets pushed down right wing rabbit holes.

The political spectrum is a circle at the ends - the weirdo conspiracy theorists tend to live at the far ends so can be either far left or far right.

A flat-earther could be an anti-immigration gun nut, or a naturopathy/crystals/plants have feelings type.

[Old Yeller]

Read about one of the leading proponents of a flat earth:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_S...rth_proponent)

I like this part:

Sargent says that being single was a contributing factor to his discovering and believing in the flat Earth conspiracy. He said, "Most people get married and have kids. But if you don't, you have a huge amount of free time on your hands"