02-22-2026, 06:11 PM
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#5681
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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He was on the ice for the goal against so...thats pretty 'On Brand' for him.
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02-22-2026, 09:17 PM
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#5682
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Losing the Olympic gold medal game, to USA to boot, HURT! If I have to find something to make myself feel better, soften the blow, in this depressing moment, knowing that McPiggy did not get the chance to hang a Olympic Gold Medal around his neck.
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02-22-2026, 09:31 PM
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#5683
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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I was actually cheering for McDavid late in the game. I think that was a first.
And look what came of it lol. Never doing that again.
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02-22-2026, 09:35 PM
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#5684
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12
McDavid may put up a lot of points, but I take a real winner like Crosby every time.
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Being instrumental to a championship >> Padding stats in the regular season and racking up preliminary points against teams like France
If people don't see that McDavid's always been the latter player, they've probably been flattering him more than he deserves.
Today really reflected what you lose in a player like Crosby.
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02-22-2026, 09:42 PM
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#5685
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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If Crosby is 100% instead of 70ish%, I think Canada would've won the game.
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02-22-2026, 11:39 PM
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#5686
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Norm!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
Being instrumental to a championship >> Padding stats in the regular season and racking up preliminary points against teams like France
If people don't see that McDavid's always been the latter player, they've probably been flattering him more than he deserves.
Today really reflected what you lose in a player like Crosby.
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I said it in the other thread.
McDavid needed a Scotty Bowman early in his career to teach him about the other aspects of the game and make him accountable.
Instead we have a player who's game hasn't evolved at all, who plays without the puck like he doesn't care. A player that when it seems like the team needs him to step up he steps back (finals, medal round games this year).
I've said here multiple times that as McDavid gets older he's going to see a probably steeper decline then we thing because his game is predicated on his speed, and if he loses half a step it could effect more then a player like Yzerman who completely evolved his game thanks to Bowman.
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02-23-2026, 03:38 AM
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#5687
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OldSam
What is more important to the Greasers? McBaby MVP for sure. Medal is secondary.
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They are going to have a ceremony for Mavi aren’t they……..so frickin cringeworthy.
They will show all his points on the Jumbotron, but will they show him selfishly trying to skate through their entire team and then absolutely mail in the back check and d zone coverage…. I doubt it.
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02-23-2026, 03:42 AM
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#5688
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I said it in the other thread.
McDavid needed a Scotty Bowman early in his career to teach him about the other aspects of the game and make him accountable.
Instead we have a player who's game hasn't evolved at all, who plays without the puck like he doesn't care. A player that when it seems like the team needs him to step up he steps back (finals, medal round games this year).
I've said here multiple times that as McDavid gets older he's going to see a probably steeper decline then we thing because his game is predicated on his speed, and if he loses half a step it could effect more then a player like Yzerman who completely evolved his game thanks to Bowman.
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100% agree with this. McDavid doesn’t have elite hockey IQ, and as he slows with age so will the gaps he is given since the opponent doesn’t want to get beat with speed. He could entirely fall off the cliff in his early-mid 30’s. It is highly unlikely he will produce in a similar fashion to Crosby.
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02-23-2026, 08:42 AM
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#5689
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Sofa GM
100% agree with this. McDavid doesn’t have elite hockey IQ, and as he slows with age so will the gaps he is given since the opponent doesn’t want to get beat with speed. He could entirely fall off the cliff in his early-mid 30’s. It is highly unlikely he will produce in a similar fashion to Crosby.
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Also think the game will keep getting faster as teams prioritize speed in their defensemen. Every team is looking for the next Makar/Hughes/Hutson in drafts now… rather than looking for the next tanev. So I think team defence around the league over the next 5-10 years will shift to faster defencemen who are quick on their edges… there will be fewer and fewer defencemen that McDavid can burn with his speed as they get faster and he gets slower.
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02-23-2026, 09:23 AM
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#5690
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First Line Centre
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I think there will always be a place for a defenseman like Tanev in the NHL.
Just to add on...
Today's dynamic defensemen haven't redefined the position. Bobby Orr did. Teams have been looking for these guys ever since. The fact is there just aren't many guys like that around.
Last edited by Eric Vail; 02-23-2026 at 10:37 AM.
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02-23-2026, 09:40 AM
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#5691
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Eric Vail
I think there will always be a place for a defenseman like Tanev in the NHL.
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Just look no further than Whitecloud.
It's awesome that we have Parekh, but that doesn't diminish the value of Whitecloud and Bahl.
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02-23-2026, 10:04 AM
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#5692
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Vail
I think there will always be a place for a defenseman like Tanev in the NHL.
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Allan Stanley! LOL.
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02-23-2026, 10:41 AM
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#5693
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#1 Goaltender
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02-23-2026, 10:48 AM
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#5694
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by midniteowl
If Crosby is 100% instead of 70ish%, I think Canada would've won the game.
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If Crosby was 70%, he probably plays. I'm guessing his injury is pretty serious. I doubt much would have kept him out of that game.
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02-23-2026, 11:16 AM
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#5695
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Franchise Player
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Is Crosby still undefeated for team Canada in international play?
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02-23-2026, 02:39 PM
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#5696
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stemit14
Every team is looking for the next Makar/Hughes/Hutson in drafts now… rather than looking for the next tanev.
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Teams have never looked for the next Tanev in the draft. That kind of defensive ability only comes from development and experience. You simply don't find it in 18-year-old kids, so you can't draft for it. Tanev himself was never drafted.
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02-23-2026, 03:58 PM
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#5697
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Montréal, QC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CalgaryFan1988
Is Crosby still undefeated for team Canada in international play?
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As a player? No, they lost a round robin game in 2010.
As captain? No, they lost in the round robin of 4 nations.
In elimation games, both as captain and not? Yes.
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02-23-2026, 04:06 PM
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#5698
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jay Random
Teams have never looked for the next Tanev in the draft. That kind of defensive ability only comes from development and experience. You simply don't find it in 18-year-old kids, so you can't draft for it. Tanev himself was never drafted.
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I disagree. Dallas drafted Grushnikov and Calgary traded for him hoping he would develop into a player like Tanev. They both knew he was never going to be a high flying offensive player. Both teams hoped he would be an excellent defensive defenseman.
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02-23-2026, 04:14 PM
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#5699
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Vail
I disagree. Dallas drafted Grushnikov and Calgary traded for him hoping he would develop into a player like Tanev. They both knew he was never going to be a high flying offensive player. Both teams hoped he would be an excellent defensive defenseman.
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Or say, Yan Kuznetsov? Plenty of examples out there.
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02-23-2026, 04:28 PM
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#5700
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Are people still gonna say McPiggy is the best player in the world? Of course they are, who am I kidding, but, in the most important game of his life, the most important period of his life and the most important shift of his life, well, he is on the ice for goal against. But he is voted MVP, and that's what he is, the MVP in a losing result.
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