[GDT] Canada vs USA - Gold Medal Game - Men’s Hockey

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Only counter argument is that it worked out fine for Marner in the quarters and saved his team from an early exit.

The difference is he wasn’t looking to go one on three, he was looking to pass off and when the dmen slid over slightly it created a gap that he exploited. That’s very different from McDavid who decided back in his own end he was going to go one on 3. Marner read and reacted.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by cam_calderon

The Olympics don't appear on the periodic table, every hockey tournament is made up.

Right. Stanley Cup is made up too.
But because it's been played more than one time, there is a bit of hstory and legitimacy to it. Like the Olympics, except added weight because you get a shot once every 4 years, or longer
They played a great game. They deserved to win. They didn't

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

All 3 are at fault for the reasons you outline. McDavid still carries blame for trying to go 1 on 3.

And he does coast for a good part of the back check. He's not going hard.
My read is he was hoping it would turn back over and he'd have a breakaway

He played 3 on 3 like it was a regular season overtime.

It’s also his second shift 3 on 3 in a minute and a half. Some may read it as lazy. A lot of that is energy. Part of what you live and die with on 3-on-3.

That to me is an indictment of our second wave of depth. This Canadian team had maybe the best top end I’ve ever seen, but the depth fell off a cliff.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

The difference is he wasn’t looking to go one on three, he was looking to pass off and when the dmen slid over slightly it created a gap that he exploited. That’s very different from McDavid who decided back in his own end he was going to go one on 3. Marner read and reacted.

Exactly. You get space by doing the thing they're not expecting in 3v3. You can do the "split the D 1v3" thing when no one thinks that's what you're about to do. When McDavid does it from his own end it's pretty obvious what's happening. At that point he needs to back the defensemen off the blue line, hit the brakes, and drop it to a late guy with space to take a shot from the high slot. You especially don't do it twice in a row.

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Right. Stanley Cup is made up too.
But because it's been played more than one time, there is a bit of hstory and legitimacy to it. Like the Olympics, except added weight because you get a shot once every 4 years, or longer
They played a great game. They deserved to win. They didn't

I take the point but 4 Nations was still best on best, and actually had 5 on 5 OT.

[fotze2]

As joe pechi says in casino, but in the end we fataed it all up.

[RogerWilco]

If I tell myself that the US team won this for #13 and his family, it seems to take the sting out of it a bit. There were some hockey gods at work in this one.

[Pekkerhead]

Great game! US didn’t deserve the win. No point blaming the 3 M’s on the ice in OT as without them we’re out several games ago. I loved the Johnny hockey stuff.

[Dozer]

China might as well just cancel hockey now

[Coach]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Exactly. You get space by doing the thing they're not expecting in 3v3. You can do the "split the D 1v3" thing when no one thinks that's what you're about to do. When McDavid does it from his own end it's pretty obvious what's happening. At that point he needs to back the defensemen off the blue line, hit the brakes, and drop it to a late guy with space to take a shot from the high slot. You especially don't do it twice in a row.

In fairness, he was doing this all tournament but the middle shooters just kept flinging it back out to a bad angle instead.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

If the US wasn't run by the worst humans alive this loss would be somewhat palatable as a dedication to Johnny.

At least 95% of the building was rooting for canada which shows how deeply unpopular the states are right now.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Exactly. You get space by doing the thing they're not expecting in 3v3. You can do the "split the D 1v3" thing when no one thinks that's what you're about to do. When McDavid does it from his own end it's pretty obvious what's happening. At that point he needs to back the defensemen off the blue line, hit the brakes, and drop it to a late guy with space to take a shot from the high slot. You especially don't do it twice in a row.

The two late guys here being Makar and MacKinnon, each with ~30 feet of separation…

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

If the US wasn't run by the worst humans alive this loss would be somewhat palatable as a dedication to Johnny.

lol what

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Saqe

lol what

He isnt wrong

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He isnt wrong

Is this a serious discussion. I assume not.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Pekkerhead

Great game! US didn’t deserve the win. No point blaming the 3 M’s on the ice in OT as without them we’re out several games ago. I loved the Johnny hockey stuff.

Any coach would puy those 3 out...3 on 3 is a coin flip

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Sigh.

[cam_calderon]

Originally Posted by Saqe

Is this a serious discussion. I assume not.

Trent is obsessed with Trump. Don't feed the troll.

[TheScorpion]

Ironic.

[Barnet Flame]

My political views are pretty strong, but I’ve enjoyed the absence of that crap in this thread.