Tracking the anti-LBGTQ+ movement

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm not responding to Dr Dumbass, but your obvious answer provides space for another point. Some do regret getting a transplant that saves their life. The guilt of living when someone else died, or that someone "better than you" could have received the organ. That you aren't doing enough to live like you should with a second chance. There are lots of emotional reasons people may regret it, probably not a lot different than if someone with gender dysphoria may second guess their own choices. But we still do transplants, you don't stop doing something that may save a person's life because people may experience confusing thoughts around it.


Not everything is perfect, and straightforward, and can be decided by uneducated culture warriors and christofascists and cowards. Let individuals have access to the best possible care we can, and do it with kindness. All this stuff is just continuing the bullying and exclusion these people have suffered their whole lives. Now they have adult strangers with zero expertise making these choices for them...for...reasons? Sit the #### down, and shut up.

That’s why you listen to the experts. Even when it doesn’t align with your ideology.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

I'm not responding to Dr Dumbass, but your obvious answer provides space for another point. Some do regret getting a transplant that saves their life. The guilt of living when someone else died, or that someone "better than you" could have received the organ. That you aren't doing enough to live like you should with a second chance. There are lots of emotional reasons people may regret it, probably not a lot different than if someone with gender dysphoria may second guess their own choices. But we still do transplants, you don't stop doing something that may save a person's life because people may experience confusing thoughts around it.


Not everything is perfect, and straightforward, and can be decided by uneducated culture warriors and christofascists and cowards. Let individuals have access to the best possible care we can, and do it with kindness. All this stuff is just continuing the bullying and exclusion these people have suffered their whole lives. Now they have adult strangers with zero expertise making these choices for them...for...reasons? Sit the #### down, and shut up.

Says the guy who has repeatedly talked about limiting heathcare to individuals, such as anti-vaxxers and others that don't share his ideology, or certain people being put at the back of the line or being not offered care at all. You've also advocating for people having to pay for treatment instead of it being available as a public resource.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

That’s why you listen to the experts. Even when it doesn’t align with your ideology.

Then why don't you do that?

Every accredited association recommends informed and guided treatment from a variety of physicians and psychological medical professionals to aid a person experiencing gender dysphoria. All or nearly all of them also strongly advise and caution against top and bottom surgery for persons 17 and under unless there is a physiological imperative.

Your constant blathering on this issue and your appeal to biased authorities that only ever manage to say the exact same thing with a hyper-focused and perverted attention to children's genitalia says a lot about you and people like you, and none of it includes the words intelligent, rational, or compassionate. You want to eliminate or extremely limit all care for children because you have precisely zero capacity and willingness to understand what you're talking about because you refuse to believe and listen to the experts that don't shape the reality you want to see.

The words that better describe you, and people like you, are ghoul, hateful, stupid, and hypocrite. And, of course, Nazi. Which, while we're sitting on that label, have you ever considered shutting your God damned mouth to prevent people seeing you as a ghoulish, hate filled, stupid hypocrite with shoe polish smeared all over your lips until you've actually taken your own advice and opened up your noise holsters for once in your life?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Says the guy who has repeatedly talked about limiting heathcare to individuals, such as anti-vaxxers and others that don't share his ideology, or certain people being put at the back of the line or being not offered care at all. You've also advocating for people having to pay for treatment instead of it being available as a public resource.

####, you are dumb. Healthcare is not ideology. Maybe stick to two syllable words for now.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Says the guy who has repeatedly talked about limiting heathcare to individuals, such as anti-vaxxers and others that don't share his ideology, or certain people being put at the back of the line or being not offered care at all. You've also advocating for people having to pay for treatment instead of it being available as a public resource.

So are you happy as a taxpayer to foot the healthcare bill for all of these morons who got infected with measles because they didn't get vaccinated?

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

So are you happy as a taxpayer to foot the healthcare bill for all of these morons who got infected with measles because they didn't get vaccinated?

What's the alternative? Either we have universal healthcare and we let individuals have access to the best possible care in a kind manner or we scrap it and go it alone. Can't really advocate for kind access for only segments of our citizens, right?

[Senator Clay Davis]

I mean in a fair world people who opted out of vaccines and other scientifically proven methods by listening to kooks would be barred from using medical science. Heart attack? Stroke? Go see your naturopath, they'll save you for sure.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I mean in a fair world people who opted out of vaccines and other scientifically proven methods by listening to kooks would be barred from using medical science. Heart attack? Stroke? Go see your naturopath, they'll save you for sure.

In a fair world, there would probably be a long list of items that you and I shouldn't have to pay for if a person can't take care of themselves properly or if they put themselves at risk but again that defeats the purpose of universal healthcare.

[PepsiFree]

I assume anyone who advocates that strongly for unrestricted universal healthcare agrees that the government shouldn’t leave what procedures can or can’t be completed to medical professionals, would like prescriptions, dental, mental health, and everything else fully covered, and will advocate for higher taxation to achieve that level of coverage with a high standard of access and care, right?

[Bill Bumface]

I want to get the Doctor's opinion on male infant circumcision next.

[ResAlien]

Originally Posted by Bill Bumface

I want to get the Doctor's opinion on male infant circumcision next.

They've already laser focused their creepy gaze upon tween genitals and you want to introduce infants into the equation? *shudder* no thanks

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I assume anyone who advocates that strongly for unrestricted universal healthcare agrees that the government shouldn’t leave what procedures can or can’t be completed to medical professionals, would like prescriptions, dental, mental health, and everything else fully covered, and will advocate for higher taxation to achieve that level of coverage with a high standard of access and care, right?

In a fair world.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

They've already laser focused their creepy gaze upon tween genitals and you want to introduce infants into the equation? *shudder* no thanks

That's right. Baby steps.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

In a fair world.

So you agree with all those things? Or you don’t because you don’t think we’re living in a fair world?

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

I mean in a fair world people who opted out of vaccines and other scientifically proven methods by listening to kooks would be barred from using medical science. Heart attack? Stroke? Go see your naturopath, they'll save you for sure.

What about the fatties , smokers , drinkers, lazy / non physical activity , unhealthy eaters , drug users , and people catching STDs having unprotected sex with strangers ?

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Then why don't you do that?

They are using the old "Here, have some advice, I'm not using it".

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

What about the fatties , smokers , drinkers, lazy / non physical activity , unhealthy eaters , drug users , and people catching STDs having unprotected sex with strangers ?

Oh wow, they have vaccines for all that now?

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

####, you are dumb. Healthcare is not ideology. Maybe stick to two syllable words for now.

Hahahah I actually can't believe he used that as a supposed "insult".

These people literally can't see past their own stupidity. Willful ignorance.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

What about the fatties , smokers , drinkers, lazy / non physical activity , unhealthy eaters , drug users , and people catching STDs having unprotected sex with strangers ?

So you're advocating eradicating the United States from existence? Sounds like a plan.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Hahahah I actually can't believe he used that as a supposed "insult".

These people literally can't see past their own stupidity. Willful ignorance.

Oh no they can, but when you have a humiliation kink you gotta get that fix somehow.