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Old 02-09-2026, 01:13 PM   #761
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Old 02-09-2026, 01:37 PM   #762
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USA has a good roster obviously but they are over rated big time IMO
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Old 02-09-2026, 01:44 PM   #763
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USA's top end is pretty meh. Tkachuk and Matthews aren't big game players and Canada have 2-3 centers who are better than Eichel, but they might have the best defense group.

Doesn't Hellebuyck suck this year? That's good, we'll take it.
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Old 02-09-2026, 01:47 PM   #764
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I just don't want Crosby or MacKinnon to rub off too much on McDavid.
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Old 02-09-2026, 01:54 PM   #765
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USA missed the ball with not having enough skill to put the puck in the net is a legit problem. I could see some type of upset if they come up against a hot goaltender. Too many role players in a day and age where smart skill should win. Putting Matthews as a captain shouldn't factor into it much but is still a bit laughable.
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Old 02-09-2026, 01:55 PM   #766
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I just don't want Crosby or MacKinnon to rub off too much on McDavid.
Don't worry, he's worked diligently over the last decade ignoring/vetoing coaches to have the sponge ability of a brick.

1-on-4 rushes and holding sticks for PPs is just his way of playing at this stage. He doesn't see a need to grow beyond that when he's validated as the best on a daily basis.
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Old 02-09-2026, 01:57 PM   #767
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I'm a little bit worried about our D depth. No Raddysh, no Chychrun. Hopefully the guys we have can get it done again like they did at 4 Nations. But this is not the best blue line we could have iced, IMO.
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Don't worry, he's worked diligently over the last decade ignoring/vetoing coaches to have the sponge ability of a brick.

1-on-4 rushes and holding sticks for PPs is just his way of playing at this stage. He doesn't see a need to grow beyond that when he's validated as the best on a daily basis.
If you watch the final few minutes of the 4-Nations, you can see how McDavid is a one man show, even when surrounded by the best players in world. Then when he does score, he goes off to celebrate with himself instead of the guy that fed him a perfect pass. He is what he is.

The title says 'McDavid wins in for Canada', but if you watch the OT, Binnington won it by making about 4-5 saves that should have been goals.

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Old 02-09-2026, 02:34 PM   #769
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Kind of OT, but is it surprising that most recent IIHF men's ranking has Switzerland in second? Top 3 countries are U.S, Switzerland, then Canada.

The most recent ranking is from May 2025.

https://www.iihf.com/en/static/68775...d_rankings_men

It surprised me, but maybe I don't understand what the rankings actually mean.
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Old 02-09-2026, 02:35 PM   #770
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USA has a good roster obviously but they are over rated big time IMO
Their D group might be the best in the tourney. Same for their goaltending. Conversely, Canada's goaltending is a question mark.

Looking at the forwards, and the overall talent, I think there is a pretty significant gap between Canada and the USA. Celebrini is arguably better than any player on the US roster (and he follows behind McDavid, MacKinnon and Crosby - for now).

In a 7 games series, Canada takes it 9 times out of 10. But is a single game knockout, the goaltending scares me.
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Old 02-09-2026, 02:42 PM   #771
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No love for the Russian government, but damn they would have a good team to watch. Sucks.

USA defence and goaltending could get them gold. Hellybuyck has his tendency to blow the big game, but we all known the pain Ottienger can provide.

Canadian goaltending looks thin. Have to hope one of those guys decides to play their best.
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Old 02-09-2026, 02:51 PM   #772
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Points aren't everything, but the Canadian team's forwards have scored 924 points in 774 games (1.19 points/game)

The American's have scored 725 points in 737 games (.98 points/game).

Scoring totals mean even less for defensemen, or Evan Bouchard would have made Canada's team. Still, here are the numbers:

Canada 442 points 272 games .62 points/game
US 405 points 281 games .69 points/game
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I think by the mid-point of the tournament, Bennett has a full-time important place on the roster. Over and over he proves himself valuable in these types of situations.
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Points aren't everything, but the Canadian team's forwards have scored 924 points in 774 games (1.19 points/game)

The American's have scored 725 points in 737 games (.98 points/game).

Scoring totals mean even less for defensemen, or Evan Bouchard would have made Canada's team. Still, here are the numbers:

Canada 442 points 272 games .62 points/game
US 405 points 281 games .69 points/game
Schieffele has more points than every American player except Eichel, who has the same amount.
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Old 02-09-2026, 03:51 PM   #775
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USA's top end is pretty meh. Tkachuk and Matthews aren't big game players and Canada have 2-3 centers who are better than Eichel, but they might have the best defense group.

Doesn't Hellebuyck suck this year? That's good, we'll take it.
Quinn Hughes is the only guy they have that's in the same ballpark as Crosby
McDavid Mackinnon (possibly Celibrini).
But they might have more depth.
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Points aren't everything, but the Canadian team's forwards have scored 924 points in 774 games (1.19 points/game)

The American's have scored 725 points in 737 games (.98 points/game).

Scoring totals mean even less for defensemen, or Evan Bouchard would have made Canada's team. Still, here are the numbers:

Canada 442 points 272 games .62 points/game
US 405 points 281 games .69 points/game
Canada is also (so far) using their lowest point forwards and Doughty (who only has 14) as extras. So, on ice they might be even more advantaged.
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Old 02-09-2026, 04:18 PM   #778
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I am not a huge fan of Wilson's antics, but he might be the guy I am most interested in watching. He could be a massive factor, positively or negatively.
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Their D group might be the best in the tourney. Same for their goaltending. Conversely, Canada's goaltending is a question mark.

Looking at the forwards, and the overall talent, I think there is a pretty significant gap between Canada and the USA. Celebrini is arguably better than any player on the US roster (and he follows behind McDavid, MacKinnon and Crosby - for now).

In a 7 games series, Canada takes it 9 times out of 10. But is a single game knockout, the goaltending scares me.
US's goaltending is kind of a question mark right now. Normally not, but Helly is not on this year at all, and neither is Oettinger.

The US D is deeper than Canada's but Canada has the best Dman in the game.
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Canada 442 points 272 games .62 points/game
US 405 points 281 games .69 points/game
That math isnt mathing

442 in 272 is 1.62 p/g
405 in 281 is 1.44 p/g
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