Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Regorium

I've found the vast majority of people just cameras off and either work on something else or not work at all. Then you go "oh X person you're on mute" X person after 30 seconds: "oh yeah sorry I missed that, could you repeat the question?"

Everyone knows that X was just not listening at all but it's become part of the etiquette to just acknowledge that it's the reality and keep the meeting going rather than call out the person.

The funniest example was a co-worker who was called out for not paying attention and his answer was "sorry, I was on mute"

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

It just takes people putting in the same effort they put in in-person online. I understand it not feeling natural or whatever, especially if you’re older or have been doing it one way for a long time, but it really isn’t any different when you put the effort in to the point where eventually it feels just as effortless and natural.

In my experience, I would say people 45-50+ struggle the most. You pretty much have to reach out to them because they won’t reach out to you, but they place a lot of importance on it, so they take a bit of extra management. Younger than that it mostly depends on the person, but in either case, you can accomplish the same.

That's my age range and I find that I'm really struggling to help the guys working with me get better. These people are extreme introverts and for most of them English is their second language. So I'm really struggling to find the right way to communicate with the different people. After 15 minutes of instructions and trying to communicate what I need. They type "got it." 30 minutes later when I see what they did, it's not correct and I need to start over.

So yes I get that I obviously suck at my job in this role and that's 200% my fault.. But I used to pick up a lot of cues in people's body language or found they would engage a bit more if I dealt with them in person. But I'm getting a bit frustrated trying to do my current job entirely remotely because the results to date are unsatisfactory to me. So I'm not too happy with being someone who sucks at my job, and I'm struggling to find a way to get through to people so I don't. At my previous job where I knew everyone personally and they were all very experienced. Things definitely were smoother.

[schteve_d]

C'mon guys....Start a thread. I keep clicking on this thread thinking it might have anything to do with Canadian federal politics. And I've been wrong for days! Start a new thread.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by schteve_d

C'mon guys....Start a thread. I keep clicking on this thread thinking it might have anything to do with Canadian federal politics. And I've been wrong for days! Start a new thread.

I’m sure everyone noted your post yesterday. The convo will naturally die off or be taken over when there’s something else people want to discuss.

Not everything needs a thread.

[wireframe]

I work for a big company that constantly studies internal productivity. The consensus from DS teams is that remote work is more productive for senior and above who have been on at the company for 4+ months. It seems to work well when we are senior enough to manage 100% of a project alone but gets tricky for junior members who need more support. The currency policy is that new hires have to come to an office for the first 6 weeks and senior people can request remote from there.

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I’m sure everyone noted your post yesterday. The convo will naturally die off or be taken over when there’s something else people want to discuss.

Not everything needs a thread.

Like Canadian Federal politics perhaps?

No seriously, get a thread. WTF does WFH need to be 'solved' (and it will never be 'solved') in this thread?

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by BloodFetish

Like Canadian Federal politics perhaps?

No seriously, get a thread. WTF does WFH need to be 'solved' (and it will never be 'solved') in this thread?

If you and schteve_d care so much then go ahead. You can find the "New Thread" button as easily as you can find the reply button.

This topic is hardly a derailment. It came up naturally as a part of the Federal Government changing their Remote / Hybrid strategy for the worse.

Maybe you should look at a different aspect of the return to office directive. Not only is it worse for the employees but it is also worse for the environment. The Feds seem to be really struggling to do much at all to keep up with their climate goals.

[schteve_d]

Originally Posted by Wolven

If you and schteve_d care so much then go ahead. You can find the "New Thread" button as easily as you can find the reply button.

This topic is hardly a derailment. It came up naturally as a part of the Federal Government changing their Remote / Hybrid strategy for the worse.

Maybe you should look at a different aspect of the return to office directive. Not only is it worse for the employees but it is also worse for the environment. The Feds seem to be really struggling to do much at all to keep up with their climate goals.

I don't care so much. That's the point, I don't care at all. I care about Canadian federal politics which is why I click on this thread and look forward to updates. WFH does not apply to me, and likely won't ever.

Don't be pissy, it's just a different discussion, that's all.

[BloodFetish]

Originally Posted by Wolven

If you and schteve_d care so much then go ahead. You can find the "New Thread" button as easily as you can find the reply button.

This topic is hardly a derailment. It came up naturally as a part of the Federal Government changing their Remote / Hybrid strategy for the worse.

Maybe you should look at a different aspect of the return to office directive. Not only is it worse for the employees but it is also worse for the environment. The Feds seem to be really struggling to do much at all to keep up with their climate goals.

You could also hit the New Thread button as easily as replying to me.

The last 68 posts (and counting) have been pointlessly arguing personal stakes about WFH. You don't consider that a derailment?

[btimbit]

Whatever. If another more interesting topic comes up it'll naturally take over the discussion

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by BloodFetish

Like Canadian Federal politics perhaps?

No seriously, get a thread. WTF does WFH need to be 'solved' (and it will never be 'solved') in this thread?

We’re not solving it. We’re having a discussion. That’s what happens on message boards. It started off with something relevant, and that has evolved into a discussion on the topic.

If you want news then go read the news. If you want this thread to get re-focused on Canadian politics then bring up something relevant to discuss instead of whining that people are discussing something you don’t care about.

Basically, just grow up or get a hobby. You’ll be fine if a thread isn’t how you want it for a weekend. What you want isn’t special. Nobody cares.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Wolven

This topic is hardly a derailment. It came up naturally as a part of the Federal Government changing their Remote / Hybrid strategy for the worse.

Heh, "hardly a derailment" is a disagreement with observable reality. Once the thread becomes mostly WFH and meta-arguing, it is a derailment by definition, regardless of whether it began as adjacent.

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

We’re not solving it. We’re having a discussion. That’s what happens on message boards. It started off with something relevant, and that has evolved into a discussion on the topic.

If you want news then go read the news. If you want this thread to get re-focused on Canadian politics then bring up something relevant to discuss instead of whining that people are discussing something you don’t care about.

Basically, just grow up or get a hobby. You’ll be fine if a thread isn’t how you want it for a weekend. What you want isn’t special. Nobody cares.

Look, you can't have it both ways. Let's say we accept drift and stop litigating thread derailments, with the stance that 'people can fork the conversation if they want'.

If that is the norm, then it's also nonsensical to be telling others to "bring up something relevant" when your stance makes it clear that relevance is no longer a standard anyone agrees to.

How annoying is it when someone starts getting into the goddamn Israel - Palestine conflict in other threads? Very. They get told to take it to the thread dedicated for it. Why? Because it takes up all the oxygen in the room. WFH debates never converge, same thing, they'll consume infinite oxygen left unchecked.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Heh, "hardly a derailment" is a disagreement with observable reality. Once the thread becomes mostly WFH and meta-arguing, it is a derailment by definition, regardless of whether it began as adjacent.

Look, you can't have it both ways. Let's say we accept drift and stop litigating thread derailments, with the stance that 'people can fork the conversation if they want'.

If that is the norm, then it's also nonsensical to be telling others to "bring up something relevant" when your stance makes it clear that relevance is no longer a standard anyone agrees to.

How annoying is it when someone starts getting into the goddamn Israel - Palestine conflict in other threads? Very. They get told to take it to the thread dedicated for it. Why? Because it takes up all the oxygen in the room. WFH debates never converge, same thing, they'll consume infinite oxygen left unchecked.

Uh huh.

I don’t know what to tell you, man. Maybe petition the mods to see if they’ll add a new rule where a conversation about any one relevant topic can’t deviate slightly and can’t go on for more than a few hours, and that threads should otherwise sit dormant until somebody is ready to post a news article someone could read on the news.

Sounds very cool and normal.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Wolven

If you and schteve_d care so much then go ahead. You can find the "New Thread" button as easily as you can find the reply button.

This topic is hardly a derailment. It came up naturally as a part of the Federal Government changing their Remote / Hybrid strategy for the worse.

Maybe you should look at a different aspect of the return to office directive. Not only is it worse for the employees but it is also worse for the environment. The Feds seem to be really struggling to do much at all to keep up with their climate goals.

It's awesome that Carney is taking the pragmatic approach and eliminating policy such as carbon tax and EV mandates.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Whatever. If another more interesting topic comes up it'll naturally take over the discussion

Did you know PP sniffs baby farts?!

Maple maga can't even trump right.

[calgarygeologist]

The federal government has approved changes to the Interim Federal Health Program which will see co-payments introduced for refugees and immigrants who receive healthcare coverage under the program.

What is changing
As of May 1, 2026, IFHP beneficiaries will be responsible for the following co-payments:
-$4 for each eligible prescription medication filled or refilled under the IFHP
-30% of the cost of all other eligible supplemental health products and services, including dental care, vision care, counselling and assistive devices

Beneficiaries covered by the IFHP will be asked to pay these amounts directly to their health care providers when they receive IFHP-eligible supplemental products or services. Basic health care benefits, including doctor visits and hospital care, will remain fully covered under the IFHP, with no co-payments required.

Starting May 1, 2026, we encourage IFHP beneficiaries to
-continue to choose a health care provider registered under the IFHP using the IFHP Provider Search tool
-ask their health care provider whether a co-payment will apply before receiving care
-confirm how much they will need to pay
-keep receipts for any co-payments made

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration...nges-ifhp.html

Advocates say full access to supplemental care, especially for things such as dental health and trauma counselling, is crucial to this vulnerable population in their initial settlement in the country, when they lack financial resources and struggle to find jobs.

“Four dollars doesn’t sound like a lot, but we have many patients who are on four or five, six medications because they’re diabetic and hypertensive,” said Dr. Meb Rashid, medical director at The Crossroads Clinic in Toronto, which provides comprehensive medical services to refugees.

“All of a sudden, it adds up. When refugees arrive, you want to settle their health down, so they can enter the workforce, be productive and thrive. This will be an ill-advised impediment to that.”

https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...95d13b4d0.html

[Firebot]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/car...ills-9.7081480

Liberals and Conservatives are working out a path that could keep the government in power, sources tell CBC News, while Prime Minister Mark Carney continues to downplay the likelihood of a spring election.

Shouldn't be surprising considering Liberals are now leading in double digits, with a high likelihood of more CPC members crossing the floor but don't really have the need to go to an election right now. It's high time for Poilievre to tuck his tail and work together instead of against the government, and at least with this version of the Liberals (unlike the previous one hellbent on ideological wedge issues), they are more alike with the CPC than before and have a lot of common ground on the running of the country.

And this is great, the further away we get from the far left and the far right having a say in Canadian policies and the further away from those disastrous Trudeau-Singh policy days the better. The NDP had their shot to be a worker's party but blew it (and still are) propping up a government on life support to their own detriment. This after the complete debacle of the election and Poilievre's campaign this is really the best path for them.

There now we have a bit of ammo to get away from the WFH / WFO stuff .

[PepsiFree]

But the NDP!

[Firebot]

I always must include them, even if most Canadians don't think of them much these days .

[PepsiFree]

Anything to cope with backing the Maple MAGA horse I suppose