Smith was talking again today about how 30% of Albertans would like to seperate (that percentage is high, according to more in depth polling its closer to 16%) but she consistently ignores the 70 to 85% of Albertans that dont.
Why exactly does she ignore the vast majority in this? The ones that know how damaging this flirting with seperatism can be.
Easy, because the 30%/16% are her diehard base.
More proof that she and this party don't give a #### about regular Albertan. Just pander to their base and find more grift opportunities.
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Smith was talking again today about how 30% of Albertans would like to seperate (that percentage is high, according to more in depth polling its closer to 16%) but she consistently ignores the 70 to 85% of Albertans that dont.
Why exactly does she ignore the vast majority in this? The ones that know how damaging this flirting with seperatism can be.
It’s because she’s a separatist.
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Smith was talking again today about how 30% of Albertans would like to seperate (that percentage is high, according to more in depth polling its closer to 16%) but she consistently ignores the 70 to 85% of Albertans that dont.
Why exactly does she ignore the vast majority in this? The ones that know how damaging this flirting with seperatism can be.
She's spent two decades building that 30%, of course she's going to Trump up the number a bit, and make sure everyone hears it.
Yesterday Smith claimed her and her caucus are not separatist. The separatists apparently have the receipts she's lying. Again.
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"I know of (UCP members of the legislature) that have signed the petition," Jeff Rath, a lawyer for Stay Free Alberta, the group organizing the petition campaign, said Thursday.
"We're confident that more of them will (sign), because they believe in allowing Albertans to have a say in their future.
"It shouldn't surprise anybody that UCP MLAs are signing the petition."
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"If they don't, we'll just assume all of them signed the petition," Nenshi said in an interview.
"(Smith) now is in charge of a separatist party and a separatist government, and she obviously cannot control her own MLAs."
In one year after it is signed, the names can be viewed. So the cowards in government hiding from their constituents that they are traitors will be revealed, eventually.
This #### is getting out of hand.
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The Citizen Initiative Act requires petition sheets be made available for public inspection for one year from the time it is filed or submitted. Electors’ residential address and contact information (phone or email) must be obscured from public inspection.
Individuals who ask to view copies of citizen initiative petition sheets are required to sign a declaration stating the information viewed will not be used except as permitted under the Citizen Initiative Act.
F that forever. You cannot give them an inch and if they try to extort the pipeline out of Canada through threat of separation then the pipeline can never happen.
I agree completely. You don't negotiate with terrorists. I obviously want shovels in the ground as soon as possible for any viable infrastructure project that increases our capacity to export energy products to places other than the USA, but not if it incentivizes people to do this type of nonsense, emboldening what is an existential threat to the country.
The mere statement from Smith yesterday that there are "a million of her constituents" who are amenable to separation - despite there being no evidence of that - is courting disaster, given the way the administration down south follows Putin's playbook. It's a thin line here though because I don't really know what to do about it aside from voting the government out, and that appears to somehow still be in question, polling-wise, despite all of this.
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Are any of them dumb enough to actually sign it? Their one signature isnt going to make or break the petition, what is the upside for them?
They probably didn't think very hard about it.
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I don't think that we should be surprised that they're signing it. The party president said that the majority of UCP membership is in favour of separation, so it would make sense that the majority of the MLAs are as well.
Yeah, it shouldn't be to surprising. If you figure it has 15-25% support, that's basically the UCP's base.
I'm more surprised that the federal Conservatives aren't pushing back harder on this nonsense. Alberta represents about 1/4 of their seats; if this insanity ever did come to fruition, forming a majority government (or even winning an election) federally would be a near impossible task.
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In one year after it is signed, the names can be viewed. So the cowards in government hiding from their constituents that they are traitors will be revealed, eventually.
I read that as the signatures are viewable for up to one year from the time it is filed. It should be available immediately. I hope a journalist/NDP have their request ready to go the minute it is filed.
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I read that as the signatures are viewable for up to one year from the time it is filed. It should be available immediately. I hope a journalist/NDP have their request ready to go the minute it is filed.
Thanks, misread that! Those turncoats will be revealed, and Smith as a liar(again...)
Thanks, misread that! Those turncoats will be revealed, and Smith as a liar(again...)
Likely not. While the submitted petitions can be reviewed for a year it appears to be an offense to disclose personal information obtained from the petition.
Likely not. While the submitted petitions can be reviewed for a year it appears to be an offense to disclose personal information obtained from the petition.
You don't think that when UCP members are found in the list, their names won't be viewed and anonymously leaked by someone? This thing is gonna have a lot of eyes on it, no way can they prevent that.
You don't think that when UCP members are found in the list, their names won't be viewed and anonymously leaked by someone? This thing is gonna have a lot of eyes on it, no way can they prevent that.
There certainly are a lot of bad actors out there who consider themselves to be above the law when it comes to matters that they believe are for the public good.
There certainly are a lot of bad actors out there who consider themselves to be above the law when it comes to matters that they believe are for the public good.
Yes, best to sit back and let politicians lie to the public about their support for treason, vs whistle-blowers revealing the truth. Some very high moral ground you are staking.
