Iran

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I don't have the cycles to find the specific articles, but the source that reported support for the current government was seen on Al Jazeera yesterday. Al Jazeera has also reported on protestors against the current regime too though. For the other side of the story, on CNN, BBC, etc. the message is the opposite and the citizens there are wanting an American intervention.

My point was around how there's a lot out there that present opposite viewpoints, as there always is.

Again, making assumptions. Extremely annoying when you have zero knowledge of what’s actually going on in the country, with its people, and clearly no understanding of the history and what’s led to this.

Please stop posting about this. I say that as your posts are becoming offensive as someone who’s lived this and family still does.

[CaptainCrunch]

So lets say that the Iranian government falls. The leaders go into exile. Its more then likely that the thousands of nut bar IRGC members go into hiding and start an insurgency and we get a decades long terrror campaign.


Unless the revolution can grab everyone that supports the current government and gets the leadership and puts them in the ground, there is going to be a period of outright brutality.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

So lets say that the Iranian government falls. The leaders go into exile. Its more then likely that the thousands of nut bar IRGC members go into hiding and start an insurgency and we get a decades long terrror campaign.


Unless the revolution can grab everyone that supports the current government and gets the leadership and puts them in the ground, there is going to be a period of outright brutality.

These terror campaigns aren't cheap. Iran itself has been funding many of them. The Saudis seem to be out of that game. Russia has no ability to fund anyone. Maybe Qatar? Do they benefit from an unstable Iran?

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by blankall

Very difficult to get a sense of what's actually going on in Iran. MAGA propaganda. The Ayatollahs are sending out videos of the streets lined with hundreds of thousands of their supporters. Reports of 20k dead already. Other reports stating the death toll is only in the hundreds.

Hundreds of thousands of people. Knowing a little history of Iran and it's current government, it's pretty easy to take the view these are not supporters, they are protesters. It would surprise me if hundred sof thousands ever came out in support of a government like Iran has. Not saying it isn't happening, but that's far from the first interpration I'd come up with.

[WinnipegFan]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I don't have the cycles to find the specific articles, but the source that reported support for the current government was seen on Al Jazeera yesterday. Al Jazeera has also reported on protestors against the current regime too though. For the other side of the story, on CNN, BBC, etc. the message is the opposite and the citizens there are wanting an American intervention.

My point was around how there's a lot out there that present opposite viewpoints, as there always is.

Hey,
So I am not using any media to measure the impact of this as I believe that the media is naturally biased and these days that bias is magnified and embraced to attract polarized readerships.

That being said, recently the trend of coverage by western journalism has changed. For the first time I, or my Iranian family have witnessed, that there are articles runnning that humanize the protestors that are being killed. We often read about "protestors" in general being killed. Hwoever, yesterday we read about a coach and university student that were killed. This to me means they are either preparing the public for an attack of some kind, or trying to motivate one.

That being said, on the ground in Iran, there are a minority of people that hate the west to the point that they would support the regime. This stems from far reaching historic ties and falsehoods that have been passed down and integrated into the educaiton system in Iran.

The counter to this is the vast majority of the poeple who are against this regime. The one's protesting are actually a small percentage of those against the regime. The larger amount on people are at home hoping for change. There are also all of the people who fled Iran, including my family members, who dream of a change. So don't ever doubt that this is a population of people that want out from under their religious opressors.

The resources in Iran that are untapped has nothing to do with its oil reserves. It is the people, these are some of the highest educated individuals I have ever met. This is the resource, they are young, highly educated, living in a place that they can't get emplyment, and they will change this country. Iran will come out of the change as a powerhouse, not ecause of oil profits but because of the people that love there. I truly believe that if unleashed to the world of acdemia, on a global scale, we will see some incredible results in health care, science, and engineering that will benefit all of humanity.

We just need change, I am no Trump fan, not in the least. However, if he makes this happen I will for the first time in my life, tip my hat to him, very briefly.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Hundreds of thousands of people. Knowing a little history of Iran and it's current government, it's pretty easy to take the view these are not supporters, they are protesters. It would surprise me if hundred sof thousands ever came out in support of a government like Iran has. Not saying it isn't happening, but that's far from the first interpration I'd come up with.

Oh no. I in no way believe the Ayatollahs BS propaganda. There's no way you could even have large amounts of supporter on the street at the same time as the protestors without some major clash.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by activeStick

I don't have the cycles to find the specific articles, but the source that reported support for the current government was seen on Al Jazeera yesterday. Al Jazeera has also reported on protestors against the current regime too though. For the other side of the story, on CNN, BBC, etc. the message is the opposite and the citizens there are wanting an American intervention.

My point was around how there's a lot out there that present opposite viewpoints, as there always is.

Just because a news outlet uses the "many sides" approach, it doesn't make them less biased. Quite often it is the opposite and they just want to muddy the waters.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by ThePrince

Again, making assumptions. Extremely annoying when you have zero knowledge of what’s actually going on in the country, with its people, and clearly no understanding of the history and what’s led to this.

Please stop posting about this. I say that as your posts are becoming offensive as someone who’s lived this and family still does.

I definitely didn't intend to cause that.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Iran currency used to be 32,000 rials for a dollar in 2015. It is right now around 1.4 million rials for a US dollar.

What's the difference between a rial and a dollar?

Spoiler!

A dollar.

[5abi]

Iranian airspace is closed

[Manhattanboy]

Reporting from the New York Times, TIME and other media today that the Iranian regime massacred over 30,000 citizens with the deadliest night being January 8. The Ayatollah ordered security forces to show no mercy and shoot to kill.

https://time.com/7357635/more-than-3...ior-officials/

[Doctorfever]

Absolutely unacceptable. This is a time the international community should be stepping in.

[Manhattanboy]

“Mr. President, doctors in Iran estimate 20,000 protesters killed, and 330,000 injured. These are numbers that defy comprehension. These are crimes against humanity.

So today’s session is welcome. But let’s be honest: it is too little, and too late.

The Iranian people have a right to know: Why, for over three weeks, did this Council say nothing?

We ask the 87 UN rights experts, the world’s “early warning mechanism.” For over two weeks, why were you silent? Only on January 13th was there a statement. And out of 87 experts, only five of you signed it.

Day after day, we pleaded for action. Five days into the repression, after killings of protesters, I asked Agnes Callamard, the former UN Rapporteur who now heads Amnesty International: Why are you silent?

In January 2020, when the US eliminated IRGC terror chief Qassem Soleimani, she rushed within hours to condemn it. Why no urgency when innocent Iranian protesters are massacred?

And beyond this room, we ask the media, Hollywood celebrities, campus protesters — those who know how to mobilize world opinion—why are you silent?

The answer is uncomfortable but clear. The Iran protest movement shatters a cherished narrative. A people rising against Islamist tyranny does not fit the ideology—and so it is ignored.

To all of you, we say: The cost of your silence was Iranian lives.

It is time to choose: do everything to protect the people of Iran—or your failed worldview.

History is watching.”

(Hillel Neuer, Executive Director of UN Watch, at United Nations Human Rights Council, Special Session on Iran, Jan. 23, 2026)

[TherapyforGlencross]

Originally Posted by Doctorfever

Absolutely unacceptable. This is a time the international community should be stepping in.

Agreed. Something has to give.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

“Mr. President, doctors in Iran estimate 20,000 protesters killed, and 330,000 injured. These are numbers that defy comprehension. These are crimes against humanity.

So today’s session is welcome. But let’s be honest: it is too little, and too late.

The Iranian people have a right to know: Why, for over three weeks, did this Council say nothing?

We ask the 87 UN rights experts, the world’s “early warning mechanism.” For over two weeks, why were you silent? Only on January 13th was there a statement. And out of 87 experts, only five of you signed it.

Day after day, we pleaded for action. Five days into the repression, after killings of protesters, I asked Agnes Callamard, the former UN Rapporteur who now heads Amnesty International: Why are you silent?

In January 2020, when the US eliminated IRGC terror chief Qassem Soleimani, she rushed within hours to condemn it. Why no urgency when innocent Iranian protesters are massacred?

And beyond this room, we ask the media, Hollywood celebrities, campus protesters — those who know how to mobilize world opinion—why are you silent?

The answer is uncomfortable but clear. The Iran protest movement shatters a cherished narrative. A people rising against Islamist tyranny does not fit the ideology—and so it is ignored.

To all of you, we say: The cost of your silence was Iranian lives.

It is time to choose: do everything to protect the people of Iran—or your failed worldview.

History is watching.”

(Hillel Neuer, Executive Director of UN Watch, at United Nations Human Rights Council, Special Session on Iran, Jan. 23, 2026)

Unfortunately the interest of those in power ultimately lines up with each other.

Historically kings used to help each other against peasant uprisings, and mass killing protesters is also kinda the historical norm. Nation states are now moving towards that direction.

Guys like Xi, Putin and Trump are all obviously supportive of this being the new normal.