2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Disagree.

He is playing some of the best 2 way hockey we have seen in this city for a long time. He is clearly a fan favorite and he is signed beyond this year.

The business case is pretty obvious....they still need to sell tickets and Coleman helps them achieve that. Keeping him one more year is not unreasonable at this point.

I would agree that if a deal is presented that Conroy really cant refuse and its a team that BC would accept going too, then yes the move has to be made. Thats a lot of "ifs" though. That being said, he is a guy that every singe team who believes they have a shot this year...would absolutely love to bring in, so its possible one GM blows away CC with an offer.

He cannot be here past TDL next year though, there is no case to be made for that.

I don’t think fans come to watch Coleman. Good player, but doesn’t drive the gate.

To Vancouver’s credit (and probably the only thing they got right),
They moved Hughes at top of market. Coleman is no Hughes, but can’t see his value being any higher. Hope we get blown away with an offer that Conny can’t turn down.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

To me that list reads more as a "places that are contenders with lower taxes" than a list of "best places to set up my family"

You might be right. All Florida teams, no California teams.

A lot of athletes like Florida for a bunch of reasons, low taxes included.

[Sec214]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

That's fair.

They are rumoured to have interest in the player, but also have no real pressure to overpay in a trade or try to rush things.

Celebrini and the rest of the youngsters are good enough, and the market is attractive enough, that they will be able to attract premier UFAs when the time comes.

They need a dog behind Celebrini.



Don't know if that's obvious.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Sec214

They need a dog behind Celebrini.



Don't know if that's obvious.

Kadri would be a pretty good mentor for both Misa and Celebrini ( and maybe Smith but feels like he's going to be a winger for them) - and that feels like a market where Kadri would have a chat with respected guys like Marleau and Thornton and tell him how great the market is. Marleau was a common linemate for those last two seasons he was in Toronto, and happens to be a player development coach for San Jose now I think. And he's good friends with Logan Couture if I'm not mistaken.

Sharks front office of full of ex-NHLers actually. Mike Grier, Todd Marchant, Doug Weigh, Thomas Vanek, Nabokov, Mike Ricci, Tommy Wingels, Luca Sbisa, Patrick Marleau, Joe Thornton, Ryan Miller. Seems like the type of group somebody like Kadri would have some respect for.

Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, Misa, Cherynyshov is a pretty elite young forward group, and then you have Toffoli and Kadri as good veteran mentors.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

You might be right. All Florida teams, no California teams.

A lot of athletes like Florida for a bunch of reasons, low taxes included.

"Set up my family" can mean "make as much money as possible for my family".

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

lol we both know that’s not true.



Management has traded most of the roster away (basically all of the top players) primarily for picks or younger players and left a boatload of cap space unused and people still blame them.

All they've been doing is trading guys who are about to become UFAs who aren't coming back which is pretty much what every well run franchise in the league does when they are outside a contention window, its not rebuild your roster aggressively territory. Markstrom, tanev, kuzmenko, lindholm and co got moved for assets rather than have them walk for nothing. And not being dumb and wasting money on UFAs when there has been nobody that good out there isn't all that surprising either. Sounds like they just made a failed run at jeannot last summer. Would have been ok with that add personally even at a higher price just to protect the kids a bit over the next few years.

I honestly dont know the extent to which they've been sitting on the vets this year on principle vs just not getting the value. From all the insider posts it seems like andersson is being shopped and the value or fit hasn't been there so thats not on ownership, and maloneys interview earlier this year sure made it feel like they would prefer to keep kadri and coleman and not trying to trade them. Maybe as some have said it was smoke and mirrors to get more trade value. It for sure seems like the more the season goes on the more interest those guys are getting and they are clearly listening, so let's hope something comes together soon.

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[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Kadri would be a pretty good mentor for both Misa and Celebrini ( and maybe Smith but feels like he's going to be a winger for them) - and that feels like a market where Kadri would have a chat with respected guys like Marleau and Thornton and tell him how great the market is. Marleau was a common linemate for those last two seasons he was in Toronto, and happens to be a player development coach for San Jose now I think. And he's good friends with Logan Couture if I'm not mistaken.

Sharks front office of full of ex-NHLers actually. Mike Grier, Todd Marchant, Doug Weigh, Thomas Vanek, Nabokov, Mike Ricci, Tommy Wingels, Luca Sbisa, Patrick Marleau, Joe Thornton, Ryan Miller. Seems like the type of group somebody like Kadri would have some respect for.

Celebrini, Smith, Eklund, Misa, Cherynyshov is a pretty elite young forward group, and then you have Toffoli and Kadri as good veteran mentors.

For 1 season maybe, but zero chance they would want to be tied to that contract for 4 years. They simply have no reason to invest heavily into an older centre.

[Calgary Highlander]

Joe Thornton played a top-6 role up until the age of 39 (and then played another three seasons after that).

Kadri has aged like wine, and has been a durable player throughout his career. I doubt the Sharks are worried about him at his cap hit, especially if Calgary retains money.

The ship has probably sailed on prying Chernyshov from them, but Bystedt + a 1st feels like fair value for both teams.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

For 1 season maybe, but zero chance they would want to be tied to that contract for 4 years. They simply have no reason to invest heavily into an older centre.

They are going to have absolutely no cap issues and don't have to re-sign any of their stars coming off ELC until the end of next season at the earliest.

Jones, Karlsson, and Vlasic dead cap all comes off the cap after next season. ($4.4M)

Couture $8M expires after 26-27. Same with Ellis $6.25M, Price $10.5M comes off after this season.

Wennberg $5M and Skinner $3M expires after this season.

They need to add cap just to get to the floor for the two seasons after this one with all those expiring contracts. And with a raising salary cap the $7M for Kadri becomes a value contract.

Kadri for the 3 seasons after this one means you have him expiring around the time a lot of their main ELCs expire.

They'd probably rather have Kadri than spend money on pieces like Price, Ellis, Couture, and the other dead cap like they have the last two seasons.

If you remove Couture, and the other dead weight they have $31.25M of contracts for next season, or about $72M of salary cap room. They wouldn't be worried at all about Kadri's contract.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Matty81

All they've been doing is trading guys who are about to become UFAs who aren't coming back which is pretty much what every well run franchise in the league does when they are outside a contention window, its not rebuild your roster aggressively territory. Markstrom, tanev, kuzmenko, lindholm and co got moved for assets rather than have them walk for nothing. And not being dumb and wasting money on UFAs when there has been nobody that good out there isn't all that surprising either. Sounds like they just made a failed run at jeannot last summer. Would have been ok with that add personally even at a higher price just to protect the kids a bit over the next few years.

I honestly dont know the extent to which they've been sitting on the vets this year on principle vs just not getting the value. From all the insider posts it seems like andersson is being shopped and the value or fit hasn't been there so thats not on ownership, and maloneys interview earlier this year sure made it feel like they would prefer to keep kadri and coleman and not trying to trade them. Maybe as some have said it was smoke and mirrors to get more trade value. It for sure seems like the more the season goes on the more interest those guys are getting and they are clearly listening, so let's hope something comes together soon.

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I’m not sure the difference between a well run team outside a contention window and a rebuilding team is.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I’m not sure the difference between a well run team outside a contention window and a rebuilding team is.

A well run team outside a contention window finishes dead last, a rebuilding team makes the moves to finish dead last but does not finish dead last. In order to be a well run team outside a contention window you do not even need to make any mores, just finish dead last.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Calgary Highlander

Joe Thornton played a top-6 role up until the age of 39 (and then played another three seasons after that).

Kadri has aged like wine, and has been a durable player throughout his career. I doubt the Sharks are worried about him at his cap hit, especially if Calgary retains money.

The ship has probably sailed on prying Chernyshov from them, but Bystedt + a 1st feels like fair value for both teams.

If San Jose is going to expend young capital to trade for a veteran, it will be for a defenseman, their position of need.

But more likely a young defenseman. Like the Dobson deal.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I’m not sure the difference between a well run team outside a contention window and a rebuilding team is.

A team thats aggressively rebuilding is also moving out players with term to bring in pieces that will be there when they do contend not just moving the guys who are about to leave anyway. Id probably go a step further and say that any well run franchise period moves out ufas before they leave for nothing but the occasional rental of your own guy if you feel you're really close makes sense to some people.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Matty81

All they've been doing is trading guys who are about to become UFAs who aren't coming back which is pretty much what every well run franchise in the league does when they are outside a contention window, its not rebuild your roster aggressively territory. Markstrom, tanev, kuzmenko, lindholm and co got moved for assets rather than have them walk for nothing. And not being dumb and wasting money on UFAs when there has been nobody that good out there isn't all that surprising either. Sounds like they just made a failed run at jeannot last summer. Would have been ok with that add personally even at a higher price just to protect the kids a bit over the next few years.

I honestly dont know the extent to which they've been sitting on the vets this year on principle vs just not getting the value. From all the insider posts it seems like andersson is being shopped and the value or fit hasn't been there so thats not on ownership, and maloneys interview earlier this year sure made it feel like they would prefer to keep kadri and coleman and not trying to trade them. Maybe as some have said it was smoke and mirrors to get more trade value. It for sure seems like the more the season goes on the more interest those guys are getting and they are clearly listening, so let's hope something comes together soon.

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They wouldn't have walked - most would have extended. Markstrom had term. So did Toffoli. Zadorov wanted to stay, didn't get an offer and asked for a trade. Lindholm wanted to stay, didn't get an offer that he liked (on purpose IMO). Tanev wanted to stay, didn't want to stay for one year only. The Flames could have easily given him a multi year deal but didn't.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

They wouldn't have walked - most would have extended. Markstrom had term. So did Toffoli. Zadorov wanted to stay, didn't get an offer and asked for a trade. Lindholm wanted to stay, didn't get an offer that he liked (on purpose IMO). Tanev wanted to stay, didn't want to stay for one year only. The Flames could have easily given him a multi year deal but didn't.

Markstrom was the only one with term.

I think we disagree on definition of that but the second July 1 hits and you are eligible to re-sign and only have 1 year left on your deal you are a pending UFA and no longer have "term" left on your deal.

I personally think there was some tension with the others around the contract Huberdeau, Kadri, and Weegar got, compared to the contracts they were being offered.

Maybe I made it up but I do feel like some of the problem Lindholm, Toffoli, and Zadorov had was that these guys from outside the org came in and got big deals, but then when it was their time the Flames were being much more calculated in their approach to the term and contracts being offered.

Tanev was a bit of a different scenario in that he was never getting the term from Calgary that a team like Toronto was willing to give him.

Hanifin is the only one that I think the Flames truly really wanted to keep no matter what, and just moved him then when they knew they didn't have a chance.

But it's also why I think this whole "We want to keep the players that want to play here" thing is overblown.

Players would have stayed in Calgary if Calgary gave them the best offer. Calgary also never had an issue attracting UFAs when they were trying to contend.

Treat the players well, but you don't have to bend over backwards to get them to their preferred destinations either.

[Leeman4Gilmour]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

If San Jose is going to expend young capital to trade for a veteran, it will be for a defenseman, their position of need.

But more likely a young defenseman. Like the Dobson deal.

San Jose is in a weird spot. They only have 12 players (9 forwards and 3 defenseman) signed for next year for a total of $49,514,168. That leaves them a bit under $27MM to get to the floor . They have 6 RFA's and none of them look like big dollar players to me. Maybe Graf gets a nice contract, I don't know. If they sign all 6, that takes them to 18/23 roster players. I am not an expert on San Jose's prospect base, but I suspect it's not deep enough to fill 5 spots and, if it is, between the 6 middle of the road RFA's and 5 entry levels, that won't add up to the $27MM they will need to get to the floor. Carey Price comes off their books and Couture is already included.

And, I just noticed this which I think is really unusual, they are currently projecting at 19/50 standard contracts for next year.

Bottom line, they need players and money. Kadri would be perfect for the Sharks.

[GioforPM]

^^ The flip side is that they weren't "forced" to trade Lindholm/Zadorov etc. And I really doubt it was Huberdeau, Weegar and Kadri that caused any rift. Lindholm and Zadorov just vastly overestimated their value as far as an extension. And I think Toffoli was a natural to move, with Coronato advancing.

They also traded Mangiapane with a whole year left on his deal.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Matty81

A team thats aggressively rebuilding is also moving out players with term to bring in pieces that will be there when they do contend not just moving the guys who are about to leave anyway. Id probably go a step further and say that any well run franchise period moves out ufas before they leave for nothing but the occasional rental of your own guy if you feel you're really close makes sense to some people.

A lot of teams re-sign those players, too. What are those teams?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

A lot of teams re-sign those players, too. What are those teams?

Yeah, there's a huge blind spot here. The choices aren't trade or let walk for nothing. There's another choice, which is, in fact, what most teams do, which is extend.

[FBI]

Just get us at least a first round pick for Andersson so we have 3 to play with this year. That’s exciting even if nothing else happens. (Obviously prefer more than just that)