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Old 12-16-2025, 11:44 AM   #15721
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I feel China is currently too smart to get dragged into a big war. Of course that might change if somewhere down the line Xi either wants to leave a bigger mark in history (that typical stupid crap men tend to get into when they get old), or if there's a major internal crisis they need a distraction from.

Other than that, I would imagine that one big lesson China is taking away from this war is just how enormous the economical and political risks are.

Plus they have a really good thing going now, being the only sane superpower and the only superpower not actively trying to bankrupt itself.
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Yeah, if anything a NATO-Russia war that China can completely avoid being involved in is probably in it's best interest, as it would be in America's position post WWII where it gets to come in and "invest" in the rebuilding, being welcomed instead of seen as an invader.
I'm just not sure I see China sitting on the sidelines or at the least making moves in their part of the world, that they may not have done without a large war in Europe.

IE: Taiwan
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Old 12-16-2025, 11:58 AM   #15722
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Which is probably why Trump is working for Putin to pull Poland away from the EU.



https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/12/...-away-from-eu/


How anyone can pretend Trump is an ally of the Western World at this point is beyond understanding.
Absolutely not a single chance in hell Poland moves away from the EU. This is a country that lived under soviet occupation for half a century, still bares the scars of said occupation, and is the poster boy country for what happens when you transition away from the soviet sphere of influence into the arms of the EU with how booming their economy is. Of all the dumb things both Trump and Putin have tried to plant, this has got to be near the top in terms of stupidity.
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I'm pretty confident that Poland on it's own could take care of the Western portion of Russia pretty quickly.
I was just going to say this! Poland alone could probably take down Russia at this point.
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Old 12-16-2025, 12:03 PM   #15724
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Absolutely not a single chance in hell Poland moves away from the EU. This is a country that lived under soviet occupation for half a century, still bares the scars of said occupation, and is the poster boy country for what happens when you transition away from the soviet sphere of influence into the arms of the EU with how booming their economy is. Of all the dumb things both Trump and Putin have tried to plant, this has got to be near the top in terms of stupidity.
If they keep relying on Tik Tok Candidates and algos to push pro-Russian candidates on the idiot masses, its not out of the realm of possibility.

But i agree. Poland is practically the spiritual leader of the EU at this point.
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Old 12-16-2025, 12:05 PM   #15725
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I'm just not sure I see China sitting on the sidelines or at the least making moves in their part of the world, that they may not have done without a large war in Europe.

IE: Taiwan
It's possible it could go for Taiwan. But China plays a long game, and I would imagine prefers to avoid open war. It's possible the fallout of a NATO-Russia conflict leaves China in a position to take Taiwan without force.
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Old 12-16-2025, 12:14 PM   #15726
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I was just going to say this! Poland alone could probably take down Russia at this point.
Europe is far from perfect, but the narrative that they couldn't deal with Russia on their own is one I've never ascribed to.

Yes, they need to invest more, but they are far from toothless. Russia is doing what Russia does, which is project and create dissonance. They want absolutely nothing to do with an actual conflict with Europe.

The combined air forces of the European NATO members would have air superiority in Western Russia within days, if not hours.
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Which is probably why Trump is working for Putin to pull Poland away from the EU.



https://notesfrompoland.com/2025/12/...-away-from-eu/


How anyone can pretend Trump is an ally of the Western World at this point is beyond understanding.
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