2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread - Page 717 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Vinny01 · 11-28-2025, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

It's more of an acknowledgement that other teams don't trade players worth acquiring if they're young.

I'm really just preaching patience -right now-.

Don’t look for shortcuts like every Canadian team always does.

I think this is a perfectly fair take and very reasonable approach. I am just not convinced it is realistic with our team

GioforPM · 11-28-2025, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think this is a perfectly fair take and very reasonable approach. I am just not convinced it is realistic with our team

It lacks nuance. If I can get a 20 year old player I would have drafted 16th OA do I spend a 27th OA to get him? Why not. I'm not trying to accelerate a rebuild - I'm simply acknowledging that a late first is magic beans.

ComixZone · 11-28-2025, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GioforPM

It lacks nuance. If I can get a 20 year old player I would have drafted 16th OA do I spend a 27th OA to get him? Why not. I'm not trying to accelerate a rebuild - I'm simply acknowledging that a late first is magic beans.

In your scenario, draft position means little.

Why is that player being traded for a 27th? His value has clearly dropped/things aren't going well. Even if he does become a bit better as a Flame, does he have the ceiling our scouts/development wants - or is it trying to just rush NHL youth into the line-up?

Why not take our 27th, draft a player and take a swing? We don't need to expedite the arrival of more players into the NHL. Draft, develop.

Aarongavey · 11-28-2025, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think this is a perfectly fair take and very reasonable approach. I am just not convinced it is realistic with our team

It will be something worth worrying about if they make a move to improve the team.

Vinny01 · 11-28-2025, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

It will be something worth worrying about if they make a move to improve the team.

Even then if the move makes sense I am not sure it is anything to worry about at all?

Aarongavey · 11-28-2025, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

Even then if the move makes sense I am not sure it is anything to worry about at all?

Well I took your post to mean you were worried about the Flames taking shortcuts, I was just saying that we should worry about it if they ever make a move to improve the team. 3 years into Conroy and that has never happened in a serious way.

ComixZone · 11-28-2025, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Well I took your post to mean you were worried about the Flames taking shortcuts, I was just saying that we should worry about it if they ever make a move to improve the team. 3 years into Conroy and that has never happened in a serious way.

Sharangovich, Frost, and Farabee?

Vinny01 · 11-28-2025, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Well I took your post to mean you were worried about the Flames taking shortcuts, I was just saying that we should worry about it if they ever make a move to improve the team. 3 years into Conroy and that has never happened in a serious way.

For the right young player I am not against it. I am not against the ComixZone take either.

If there is a young stud available via trade who can be a long term piece on this team I am not necessarily opposed to Conroy using assets to bring in that player.

traptor · 11-28-2025, 05:01 PM

Yeah if there's a high caliber 22 or younger (preferably C or LD) available, and its good value (a late 1st), why not?

I don't really see the downside. It's not like a Mintyukov or Helenius is going to instantly turn your team around next year, but it's a good value add to your core to build around.

Bonded · 11-28-2025, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

Sharangovich, Frost, and Farabee?

Sharangovich was before the real tear down began.
I see Frost and Farabee as an asset management trade rather than a shortcut trade. I’ll beat Frost returns better than the 2nd they gave up.

GioforPM · 11-28-2025, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

In your scenario, draft position means little.

Why is that player being traded for a 27th? His value has clearly dropped/things aren't going well. Even if he does become a bit better as a Flame, does he have the ceiling our scouts/development wants - or is it trying to just rush NHL youth into the line-up?

Why not take our 27th, draft a player and take a swing? We don't need to expedite the arrival of more players into the NHL. Draft, develop.

In your scenario a young player who has made the NHL is worth less than one who might. And I really don't see any single player getting the Flames further up in the standings over the next two years. They have a good 2C I. Kadri and they are at the bottom. And in my scenario they are also getting rid of Kadri, Andersson, Coleman etc. no 20 year old is making up for that loss

GioforPM · 11-28-2025, 05:18 PM

If I said it was a high second round pick you are giving up does it make a difference? And if so, I say the odds of a 27OA pick being a great player versus a 33rd are probably not much different.

Geeoff · 11-28-2025, 05:53 PM

I don't really agree that acquiring young players will make us too good, or at least I hope it won't, since I'm sure we will be acquiring players as parts of the return for our vets.

But I do think we should be making draft picks in the 1st and 2nd rounds, unless something really astounding becomes available

taxbuster · 11-28-2025, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tbull8

CmpDave on Twitter talking about how the chatter around the team in the last couple days has been moving towards dealing the vets moreso than before.

Having a guy like Mckenna at the top who openly wants to play in Calgary, along with a guy like Dupont in next years draft who is from here, could be massive. The jersey sales for either (or both) of those guys would be off the charts imo

Did I miss something? Where was this said?

NewFan · 11-28-2025, 11:42 PM

It looks like if Conroy wait until he receives a better return for Andersson our 1st will be also drop few spots. So it will be like trading Our 1st overall + Andersson for 10th overall + 25th something + B prospect + roster player.
In other word waiting Anderson's return get better in expense of our top 3 draft position fall to near 10th AO.

saillias · 11-28-2025, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by taxbuster

Did I miss something? Where was this said?

Steinberg in one of the shows he did since the Maloney article. He said "I can tell you that McKenna would love to be a Calgary Flame"

Roof-Daddy · 11-28-2025, 11:58 PM

Sure is nice to see Kadri and Ras leading the team in scoring. Should be able to get a 1st round pick plus for each one of them IMO.

Not sure if we can get a 1st for Coleman, but maybe with 50% retention they can get a decent return.

Hopefully by the TDL the Flames will have minimum five 1st round picks for the next two drafts, plus several 2nd and 3rd rounders as well.

robertsfanatic · 11-28-2025, 11:59 PM

oh boy, only 56 more games of this discussion...and it will continue up to the lottery...and continue until draft day - can't wait.

also, can someone remind me what place the Islanders finished when they won the lottery?

dino7c · 11-29-2025, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by robertsfanatic

oh boy, only 56 more games of this discussion...and it will continue up to the lottery...and continue until draft day - can't wait.

also, can someone remind me what place the Islanders finished when they won the lottery?

They had 82 points...the most mid record you can dream up lol