Man what a ####ty timeline we live in where we have to sift through people panicking over wins in a PGT ... over a rival.
Keep the moaning to the other topics.
Just enjoy the damn win.
I haven't commented in this thread, nor any other PGT this year I don't believe, but is a PGT reserved only for those that celebrate the wins? Strange take...
There is genuine concern that this team is going to march their way back up the standings to a 12th-17th pick, yet again. Rival or not, I'd argue most fans prefer losses these days. Perhaps not "most" when it comes to playing the Oilers or Canucks, but still, you can't fault those that want losses even in those games, especially when we've now won 4 out of the last 6 or whatever it is.
Those that are embracing the tank are just as much of fans as those that are cheering for the wins.
I think accusing people of cheering losses is unfair. There is a world of difference between cheering for losses and accepting that your team is going to have to go through the pain of escaping a never ending cycle of purgatory.
It is the way the system is, you don't get rewarded for trying, so losing is a way of ripping the bandage off and getting better.
I want us to win, but am not upset when we lose and can't really criticise those that want us to play the stupid system that rewards losers.
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if they dont want teams tanking for good players they should just make it so the 17th place team gets top pick, then 18 gets 2nd 19 gets 3rd etc...then at least teams that are just outside the playoffs get a good player and can get better and maybe make the playoffs . this way every team would at least try. but then i dont know how the worse teams will get better.
if they dont want teams tanking for good players they should just make it so the 17th place team gets top pick, then 18 gets 2nd 19 gets 3rd etc...then at least teams that are just outside the playoffs get a good player and can get better and maybe make the playoffs . this way every team would at least try. but then i dont know how the worse teams will get better.
I like the concept that as soon as a team is eliminated from playoff contention, they start to generate points that sets their draft position. The most points gained from a non playoff team gets the highest picks. It still favors the worse teams, as they will be eliminated first (though that will be influenced by East/West elements) but gives teams a reason to still play down the stretch to maximize their draft position. And gives fans of those teams something to cheer for, and in a way where they are hoping for wins, not losses.
There's been various versions of it written up over the years. I'll try to find one.
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if they dont want teams tanking for good players they should just make it so the 17th place team gets top pick, then 18 gets 2nd 19 gets 3rd etc...then at least teams that are just outside the playoffs get a good player and can get better and maybe make the playoffs . this way every team would at least try. but then i dont know how the worse teams will get better.
They should fully randomize the order of picks between the non-playoff teams, except give extra odds for a high pick to teams based on how many years they've missed the playoffs since their last top 3 pick.
That way, there's really no reason to tank, but over time the sucky teams would be eventually all but guaranteed a high pick.
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I think accusing people of cheering losses is unfair.
They literally are. You have people saying in GDTs they want the team to lose, telling the other team to wake up when the Flames are winning, and calling the other team down because they didn't win.
There's nothing wrong with thinking a losing season would be beneficial to the team and not being upset with losses. But you don't have to celebrate it like it's the Oilers either.
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I like the concept that as soon as a team is eliminated from playoff contention, they start to generate points that sets their draft position. The most points gained from a non playoff team gets the highest picks. It still favors the worse teams, as they will be eliminated first (though that will be influenced by East/West elements) but gives teams a reason to still play down the stretch to maximize their draft position. And gives fans of those teams something to cheer for, and in a way where they are hoping for wins, not losses.
There's been various versions of it written up over the years. I'll try to find one.
I've heard this debated using points percentage instead of actual points but I actually like your idea. As you say, the worse you are the more games you have to accumulate those points.
The idea of the lottery was obviously brought in to reduce pure tanking, But an actual competition would be better.
I haven't commented in this thread, nor any other PGT this year I don't believe, but is a PGT reserved only for those that celebrate the wins? Strange take...
There is genuine concern that this team is going to march their way back up the standings to a 12th-17th pick, yet again. Rival or not, I'd argue most fans prefer losses these days. Perhaps not "most" when it comes to playing the Oilers or Canucks, but still, you can't fault those that want losses even in those games, especially when we've now won 4 out of the last 6 or whatever it is.
Those that are embracing the tank are just as much of fans as those that are cheering for the wins.
Lighten up ...
Haven't banned anyone for tank talk
Haven't banned anyone for bemoaning losses in PGT
Haven't suggested anyone can't comment
Not rating fan level for ribbons
Just saying it's pretty much the meat of every single topic these days, so a post game win over a rival maybe isn't looking for people upset that they won?
Just me maybe.
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I like the concept that as soon as a team is eliminated from playoff contention, they start to generate points that sets their draft position. The most points gained from a non playoff team gets the highest picks. It still favors the worse teams, as they will be eliminated first (though that will be influenced by East/West elements) but gives teams a reason to still play down the stretch to maximize their draft position. And gives fans of those teams something to cheer for, and in a way where they are hoping for wins, not losses.
There's been various versions of it written up over the years. I'll try to find one.
I would love some kind of tournament between the 16 non-playoff teams. Every team plays meaningful games in April. More revenue for the teams.
I don't understand the logic of acquiring Kampf and then not trying to create a shutdown line with him. I mean, the point of acquiring him is to create better matchups for your rookie centremen and potential scorers, not saddle said scorers with a butcher between them. Of course, it's impossible to take those players and make a lineup that's actually good, so that's also a factor.
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Maybe it wouldn't work. But what's the argument against simply trying it? It's so frustrating. Even just give Kane a few shifts off in the 2nd and 3d and move Karlsson up then. Just ... @#$#@ try it!
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That D on paper in our delusions looked near top of the league before the season started.
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Least of our worries are the personnel it's about deployment and plan it's about deployment and plan
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3rd from last, that's firm tank territory.
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We can bottom out. I believe in this group. We can catch the Preds and tell them who the true tank in their community is.
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Canucks have a 6.1% of making the playoffs as of this morning.
This team is cooked.
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Flames won tonight, so this is a 'toilet bowl' game. Loser inches closer to the McKenna sweepstakes.
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hope to see the kind of effort we saw the last few games.
If not, another step closer to 1st overall pick.
Can’t lose either way.
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The stoppable force meets a movable object
I was thinking of skipping this game but then I realized it's probably going to be a lot more entertaining than facing a good team that can shut down the Canucks
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After one of their best games against Dallas I expect us to get run over in this one. Itd be the most Canucks thing to do here.
Hope that reverse jinxes us into a win
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If we lose this game, then I will start taking the tank thread seriously.
Frosted Tips
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Thats actually on Hughes, hes unfortunately been noticeably dog#### this period
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Yah. Can't do that.
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Play like you did against stars boys ffs
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Two failed clears from Myers but I’m sure Karlsson is to blame somehow.
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That ones on everyone but mostly Raty
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fixing this doesn't start with a tank! start with the ownership because I wouldn't trust them with the decisions building from scratch.
owner 2) prz/gm 3) coaches 4)trades for draft picks Then you can do a real tank.
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Foote getting ready to paddle all the young players in the intermission
Zary to break the slump
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Brutal. What a hopeless sequence.
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We don’t look good against the worst team in the league…
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Lmao
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mmmm…. pillowy soft defence, which was supposed to be our strength, we’re f***ed
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We are trying our best to outtank you.
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Raty bad bounce but he has to react faster, pick up his man.
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Tankinen in fine form tonight.
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It’s so perfect. Every year a new tank commander gets crowned
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The defence outside of Hughes-Hronek looks terrible.
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I think if we lose this game we should just call it a season and tank. There’s just no point.
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Stupid long neck horse
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I just wish I could be as horrible at my job as the clown show running this team and have such job security at the same time.
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Guess i cant watch this game, literally turned it on to watch these 2 goals.
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thought i was watching a replay on that second calgary goal
Bahler with a Baller
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We're losing to a team coached by ####ing chat gpt dude
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Please put Karlsson with Petey
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Canucks have sucked for 95% of my adult life. Hooray.
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It feels like that dead era between 2016-2019, when this team had little top end prospects and Benning was chasing the playoffs with a roster that could barely beat AHL caliber teams.
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We can and will outtank the Flames. I feel it in my loins.
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I guess that wasn't Lankenin's fault, but 3 goals on 11 shots.
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Battle for Mckenna
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honestly that was a great shift from the flames
started with a really nice turn by bahl to escape pettersson on his own blue line
YEGOOOOOOOOOR
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I find myself imagining how I’ll be able to stomach watching this team without Hughes.
It’s time. Blow this team up.
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f*** this, I’m out
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Lank absolute #### today. He's not a 1a
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Hopefully losing to Calgary forces management to finally shift into rebuild mode.
It doesn't get lower than this.
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... This f***ing dope
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How is no one boxing out Sharangovich in front. He is just completely left alone
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Kane is a f***ing moron
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Having to watch this team to get through the winter months is cruel and unusual self flagellation.
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Lol these guys got a shot at being an all-time worst Canucks team.
Shorthanded Goalman!
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And to think I painted a five ment squad of space marines in yh colors of these losers.
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Lmao Coleman
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4 goal lead is the most dangerous. Got em where we want em, this is ours
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I wanna die
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My wife just walked into the room she stopped following the Canucks a long time ago, she said why are you still watching that crap... haha. Because you don't understand pain honey.
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Nobody seems to know what the f*** is going on out there.
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"OK fellas just do that"
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This team is officially a steaming pile. We have lost 4 of our last 5, so if you are getting pummeled by the 2nd worst team in the league when we need a win very badly, there is something seriously wrong.
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God we are ####
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That’s it, playing the worst team in the NHL on a back to back and this is how you play. The season is over.
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People in Vancouver actually spent money to go to this game and watch this.
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Flames fans, did you really think you could outtank the 2025/26 Canucks?
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This is a good game for the Canucks to take the night off. Easy team like Calgary.
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This game hopefully lets management know we have to take a step back this year and not trade away prospects and picks.
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This team is so poorly managed and coached that they dont even need to tank on purpose
Savior from a different Sport
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Can Müller buy the team? Is that a possibility? Him and Buble together maybe? Anybody else who actually cares about the team and not money?
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I can just picture Müller telling the Canucks to “Shoot the puck “ and it works. He has such amazing communication skills.
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There’s something uniquely unlikeable about this version of the Canucks. Knowing they had pieces after the Benning era, only to see 2 petulant centers piss it away because they couldn’t get along, leaves a real bitter taste. Anger around that is now just replaced with indifference.
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Back to being the sludge at the bottom of the barrel. Fricking awesome being a Canucks fan.
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Getting a home ice L at the hands of CGY should give management and Aquaman something to think about.
That is, if any of those people are capable of shame, which I kinda doubt.
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Thats a good team over there…
Said nobody ever.
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Rutherford and Allvin need to be fired, or in Rutherford's case agree to "mutually part ways" or whatever to save face if that matters. Either way, we need accountability and a new management regime to take on the task of rebuilding this team. This management group should not be the ones to trade Quinn Hughes, if that's what it comes to.
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Horvat was limp dick
Miller was cancer
Petey mental midget
Demko unreliable and injury issues
Boeser needs to be carried
The core was rotten. I can’t fault Allvin for trying to make it work. At the end of the day, this sorry ass core failed themselves.
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Submit your spare parts for Hughes offers.
Canucks fans are guilty of the same thing. All franchises. When does a generational defenseman go on the market though? Not very often. 2 post-season runs guaranteed.
Caveat that the Canucks are still trying to keep him.
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I’m not even surprised. This team sucks on paper. It sucks on the ice. There are no young players who I would tune in just to watch and no plan for the future to excuse the current ####tiness for.
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Letting Zadorov walk in free agency and paying a first less than a year later to get MP29 to replace his minutes is an under the radar awful series of transactions that I only pieced together recently. And it's awful even before considering the fact that MP29 has been dog ass this year.
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Have to call Foote out. The veterans: They no longer believe in what he's doing and are OK collecting a cheque.
No heart. The one thing they had was effort, now even that's gone.
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After Hughes scored, everyone just started playing individually, trying to rambo it single-handedly.
It looked like they stopped playing "the system" after realizing the headcoach is ass.
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I haven't commented in this thread, nor any other PGT this year I don't believe, but is a PGT reserved only for those that celebrate the wins? Strange take...
There is genuine concern that this team is going to march their way back up the standings to a 12th-17th pick, yet again. Rival or not, I'd argue most fans prefer losses these days. Perhaps not "most" when it comes to playing the Oilers or Canucks, but still, you can't fault those that want losses even in those games, especially when we've now won 4 out of the last 6 or whatever it is.
Those that are embracing the tank are just as much of fans as those that are cheering for the wins.
What a PGT (or a GT for that matter) should be reserved for is comments on the game that was played. There are a half dozen other team makeup threads where people can express concerns, debate, whatever, about where the team is going.
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