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Old 11-20-2025, 11:53 AM   #13381
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Boomer is going on a huge rant about the Flames ownership on Barn Burner right now. He is very upset with the Maloney interview.

He said it is the most important year for the franchise in the last 20 years and he is frustrated that we are about to screw it all up. I really hope Royle is right about all this, because these guys are making really good points. And you can see the pent up frustration with ownership coming out in a lot of the fan base right now.

Rhett and Pinder are not happy either, but you rarely hear Boomer go on a rant like this.
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Old 11-20-2025, 11:54 AM   #13382
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I have been saying Maloney is an absolute Dinosaur who shouldn't be anywhere near our team for almost 3 straight years. I am glad people are finally waking up to it.
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Old 11-20-2025, 11:56 AM   #13383
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Yeah if Kadri, Huberdeau and Weegar are your top 3 skaters, you are a bad team.
Not disrespect to those guys, but that has to be one of the worst, if not the worst, top 3 in the entire league.
It's in the conversation, but I don't know about worst.

STL: Thomas, Kyrou, Snuggerud
SEA: Beniers, Schwartz, Eberle

PHI? is NSH any better?

None of these teams are winning anything, so it's probably moot
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Old 11-20-2025, 11:59 AM   #13384
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Boomer is going on a huge rant about the Flames ownership on Barn Burner right now. He is very upset with the Maloney interview.

He said it is the most important year for the franchise in the last 20 years and he is frustrated that we are about to screw it all up. I really hope Royle is right about all this, because these guys are making really good points. And you can see the pent up frustration with ownership coming out in a lot of the fan base right now.

Rhett and Pinder are not happy either, but you rarely hear Boomer go on a rant like this.
Try not to over-react to a intermission sound bite from a guy who isn't the most articulate.
Judge them by their actions.

Pro tip: Nothing said in intermissions of games matters. At all. Ever.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:04 PM   #13385
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Try not to over-react to a intermission sound bite from a guy who isn't the most articulate.
Judge them by their actions.

Pro tip: Nothing said in intermissions of games matters. At all. Ever.
I'm not over reacting, I am saying other people are getting as upset as I have been lately. And he makes a lot of good points.

I will wait to judge until the deadline, but if they do not trade Kadri, Andersson and Coleman by the deadline then I'll be bringing the pitchforks out as well.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:05 PM   #13386
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Yeah if Kadri, Huberdeau and Weegar are your top 3 skaters, you are a bad team.
Not disrespect to those guys, but that has to be one of the worst, if not the worst, top 3 in the entire league.
Yeah, and some GM literally replaced our top line with that and expected us to still be god.

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Old 11-20-2025, 12:05 PM   #13387
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Boomer is going on a huge rant about the Flames ownership on Barn Burner right now. He is very upset with the Maloney interview.

He said it is the most important year for the franchise in the last 20 years and he is frustrated that we are about to screw it all up. I really hope Royle is right about all this, because these guys are making really good points. And you can see the pent up frustration with ownership coming out in a lot of the fan base right now.

Rhett and Pinder are not happy either, but you rarely hear Boomer go on a rant like this.
I think the disconnect occurs if you choose to take the interview verbatim (or the Easter media click bait).

So they make good points if the Maloney interview is a full factual presentation of a plan.

I personally don't think it is.

But I'll be onboard and upset if they start doing things to improve the team as well.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:05 PM   #13388
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So, you are saying that Rasmus Andersson who more than likely isn't signing with anyone before the deadline and Coleman are worth more than a 21-year-old dman who was 10th OV pick and is playing 18 mins a night on a top team in the NHL so far this year isn't good value.

Vatrano isn't that bad at $4.5 mil for a couple more years. His negative value could change to positive value with more ice in Calgary.

Maybe we could get a 2nd in the deal too, but IMO Mintykov is the most valuable player in this deal.

I personally think Conroy is hesitating to trade some of our vets because our best prospects are 18-19 years old. Not ready and playing junior hockey.

Minty for Ras gives him a chance at bigger minutes and with guys like Hanley, Pachal and Bean there is still room for AHL dmen to bump players out.
Well he is getting 15 minutes time on ice and yes I am saying that. I would have more faith in Hunter B than Minty, just based on watching them in junior. The question I would have is why does Anaheim possibly want to move a former 10th overall pick. In my opinion he brings a limited skillset to your team unless he is producing offensively. Great skater, pretty good first pass out of the zone but limited defensive abilities. He would be worth Rasmus because he does have upside but I would not want to trade Rasmus and Coleman for him and a salary dump.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:06 PM   #13389
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I have been saying Maloney is an absolute Dinosaur who shouldn't be anywhere near our team for almost 3 straight years. I am glad people are finally waking up to it.
Feels like there's been too many cooks in the kitchen in the front office for a couple seasons now.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:07 PM   #13390
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As of right now Vatrano is providing similar value to Sharangovich and has a couple years left on his deal and in my opinion a negative asset. I would take him in a package back if it could bring in a piece like Mintyukov who fills the need as a left shot Dman with upside.

I think Frost could be an interesting chip but I would move him at the deadline when teams are more desperate even though he has a year left on his deal.
Ya if you are doing a Vatrano trade it is more Yegor for him straight up.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:08 PM   #13391
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I'm a bit confused over all the reactions to the interview.

He said what you'd expect from anyone in upper management. It's just marketing/advertising. Some of you must get really mad at television commercials.

The only off-putting part of the interview for me was the fact that he kept looking straight into the camera.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:13 PM   #13392
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I haven't listened to the Maloney interview but if the basic premise is that he said they want to improve the team I will be pretty surprised if they start to when the team is in last place but stayed pat last deadline when they were solidly in the hunt. That would definitely be a headscratcher and worth some ire.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:13 PM   #13393
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It's in the conversation, but I don't know about worst.

STL: Thomas, Kyrou, Snuggerud
SEA: Beniers, Schwartz, Eberle

PHI? is NSH any better?

None of these teams are winning anything, so it's probably moot

Its pretty close and pretty much comes down to what metrics your measuring.


If your strictly measuring best 3 skater core right now, Flames are bottom 5 but not last.
If your saying which 3 skater core i would take to keep building around, the Flames might be last.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:18 PM   #13394
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I think the disconnect occurs if you choose to take the interview verbatim (or the Easter media click bait).

So they make good points if the Maloney interview is a full factual presentation of a plan.

I personally don't think it is.

But I'll be onboard and upset if they start doing things to improve the team as well.
FFS at what point can we stop saying it's Eastern Media Click Bait.

Do you actually that all of Boomer, Rhett, Pinder, Steinberg, Francis, Pike, etc don't have insight into what's actually going on behind the scenes. I doubt Boomer is just reacting to Don Maloney's interview, he would have way more details than that.

Royle9 is great, but I trust that the aforementioned guys have better insights into what's going on in the organization than he does.

If these guys are all saying that ownership doesn't want to tank, doesn't want to move Kadri / Coleman, and still isn't ready to truly commit to a rebuild than it's because it's the truth.
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Old 11-20-2025, 12:22 PM   #13395
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FFS at what point can we stop saying it's Eastern Media Click Bait.

Do you actually that all of Boomer, Rhett, Pinder, Steinberg, Francis, Pike, etc don't have insight into what's actually going on behind the scenes.

Royle9 is great, but I trust that the aforementioned guys have better insights into what's going on in the organization than he does.

If these guys are all saying that ownership doesn't want to tank, doesn't want to move Kadri / Coleman, and still isn't ready to truly commit to a rebuild than it's because it's the truth.
They aren't saying that though. They repeat third hand info, and make suppositions based on what they hear. And they create their own narratives. They've been wrong about plenty of things. I doubt any except maybe Francis ever speak to Murray Edwards directly.
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I'm not over reacting, I am saying other people are getting as upset as I have been lately. And he makes a lot of good points.

I will wait to judge until the deadline, but if they do not trade Kadri, Andersson and Coleman by the deadline then I'll be bringing the pitchforks out as well.
So you've already decided to bring out the pitchforks if that happens regardless of the reasons why? If they let Andersson go for nothing as a UFA I get it.
The others? I hope they trade one of them, but if they hang on to Coleman for another year, I'm not going to lose my ####.
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FFS at what point can we stop saying it's Eastern Media Click Bait.

Do you actually that all of Boomer, Rhett, Pinder, Steinberg, Francis, Pike, etc don't have insight into what's actually going on behind the scenes. I doubt Boomer is just reacting to Don Maloney's interview, he would have way more details than that.

Royle9 is great, but I trust that the aforementioned guys have better insights into what's going on in the organization than he does.

If these guys are all saying that ownership doesn't want to tank, doesn't want to move Kadri / Coleman, and still isn't ready to truly commit to a rebuild than it's because it's the truth.
What about Button apparently saying ownership is fine with a rebuild.
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I doubt any except maybe Francis ever speak to Murray Edwards directly.
This fact should make everyone deeply, deeply suspect about the judgement of club ownership. lol.
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Why are fans perfectly happy to get riled up over what is said in the media but also happy to ignore the fact that Conroy has been executing his plan this entire time, regardless of what has been said in the media?

We're a cap floor team at 32nd in the NHL. If we were in 18-20th, maybe there would be a reason to worry but that is simply not the case.
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Why are fans perfectly happy to get riled up over what is said in the media but also happy to ignore the fact that Conroy has been executing his plan this entire time, regardless of what has been said in the media?

We're a cap floor team at 32nd in the NHL. If we were in 18-20th, maybe there would be a reason to worry but that is simply not the case.
100%. I will continue to judge them by what they do and not what media is saying they will do.
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