I dont like wishing death upon people, but Lavrov isn't people, so I am eager to see pictures of his disfigured corpse and bloated face after he has his unfortunate window accident.
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Rheinmetall is soon about to start manufacturing modern Lynx IFV's in Ukraine, which are intended to over time replace at least some of the hodgepodge of vehicles they're currently operating.
Along with the recent deal to buy 150 Gripen fighter jets from Sweden, this is another sign that Ukraines European allies are in this for the long haul and have faith in Ukraine's future.
It's also a sign that Ukraine isn't just planning to hang on, their goal is to keep modernizing and improving their capabilities.
(Following the discussion, I've also noticed how there's a certain level of prestige in these deals for Rheinmetall and Saab. Ukraine has such an unrivalled amount of battle experience that I've read plenty of comments to the tune of "no one understands modern war like Ukrainians" and "they've battle tested so many platforms that it says a lot they picked that.")
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Ukrainian Special Operation Forces destroyed a Russian S-400 Triumf air defense system and an ammo depot Crimea. S-400:s have a unit price of over a billion dollars, so they're about as juicy as targets as they come.
The strike killed 12 servicemen and seven civilians, while 36 others were injured, according to#the Prosecutor General's Office.
According to the investigators, the officer organized on Nov. 1 a formal assembly and award ceremony for over 100 servicemen in front-line areas of Dnipropetrovsk Oblast, including locations where civilians were present.
Although the General Staff had prohibited such gatherings, the commander neither halted the event nor dispersed the soldiers during an air raid alert, the SBI said.
At that time, Russia reportedly struck the assembly points with three Geran drones and two Iskander missiles.
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In the Ulyanovsk region, mobile internet was disconnected until the end of "SVO". Also in Russia, they began to fine subscribers to “undesirable” channels. These are anti-war resources. https://twitter.com/user/status/1988304643122733542
The share of Russians who would disapprove of their loved ones' decision to volunteer to fight in Ukraine has reached 55%, according to data from Levada Center. Only 30% of respondents would approve of this now. A year ago, the share of those opposed to their loved ones volunteering to fight in Ukraine was 13% points lower. https://twitter.com/user/status/1988300871042506967
Ukraine currently produces approximately 4 million drones per year. Probably more than all NATO countries combined, - Bloomberg. By comparison, the US produces approximately 100,000 military drones annually. https://twitter.com/user/status/1988298399385518118
While the expenses of the war pile up, Russias oil income is way down.
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Russia's vital oil and gas revenues tumbled 27% in October from a year earlier, data from the Finance Ministry show
Additionally, discount for Russian crude oil has been around 20$ per barrel, a record price for this year and really frickin high when a standard battle of crude is currently selling at 64$ per barrel.
The previous record discount was 30$ per barrel, but that was from when the standard was over 100$ per barrel.
With Moscow witnessing it's first blackouts of this war and Ukraine still sending regular waves of kinetic sanctions over the border and Russian government finances probably in the toilet, it's no wonder support for the war inside Russia is starting to crater.
We've even seen some public protests against Putin this fall, which hasn't happened in a while.
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Ukraine’s defense forces struck the Ryazan oil refinery and several key Russian targets. Confirmed hits include a Nebo-U radar station in occupied Crimea https://twitter.com/user/status/1989790258867978644
SABOTAGE: 6500 km from the border, Ukraine's military intelligence, GUR, blew up railway tracks near the settlement of Sosnovka on the Trans-Siberian Railway. https://twitter.com/user/status/1989772425618436487
MAJOR STRIKE: The explosion & secondaries that occurred during UKR's Neptune strike on Novorossiysk may have been the destruction of as many as seven S‑400 air defense systems. https://twitter.com/user/status/1989754074586386710
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Can anyone explain to me why NATO and the EU put up with Orban? He's obviously got putins hand up his butt like a puppet. Why can't Hungary be ousted until they have leadership that isn't trying to get everyone to bend over for putin?
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Can anyone explain to me why NATO and the EU put up with Orban? He's obviously got putins hand up his butt like a puppet. Why can't Hungary be ousted until they have leadership that isn't trying to get everyone to bend over for putin?
An election is coming up in Hungary in April and the opposition party is in a pretty good position to win. The leader of the opposition, Peter Magyar, is pro-EU and has been highly critical of Orban's relationship with Russia. It might be worth seeing how that plays out before throwing Hungary to the side. The EU has already cut them off on some things.
Having said that, Orban has done a lot to consolidate his power and their democracy is seriously challenged. If Orban wins again, I think the EU should seriously consider cutting bait with them. Their democratic backsliding has fallen to the point that they wouldn't even be allowed to join if they weren't already in.
As for NATO, I read before that there is actually no mechanism to kick a country out. The other countries could choose not to honour the alliance if a country becomes a problem, but it's a bit of a slippery slope as well. NATO would probably prefer to keep them even if they are a pain instead of having them full on defect and join the CTSO or something stupid like that, and basically have another Belarus on their border.
It's also worth mentioning that Hungary currently leads the Baltic Air Policing NATO mission. Despite Orban's talk, their military is still participating at least.
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Can anyone explain to me why NATO and the EU put up with Orban? He's obviously got putins hand up his butt like a puppet. Why can't Hungary be ousted until they have leadership that isn't trying to get everyone to bend over for putin?
Multiple reasons, some good and some bad.
For one, neither EU or NATO particularly likes the precedent.
Second, even though especially the international news only talk about Orban being a POS and resisting everything, EU actually has quite a lot of sway over Hungary, and they have been able to push Hungary around more than you'd realize, for example when it comes to political freedoms. Those freedoms are a reason why Orban might still lose his grip on power through an election, just as an example of why that matters.
Throwing them out would basically force Hungary into the hands of Russia, China or Trump, as they'd be really effed. They could in fact be so effed economically (they're a landlocked country surrounded by other EU countries plus Ukraine), easpecially with a country at war right next door, that the country could become destabilized, a haven for criminal activity, Russian and Chinese spy activity etc. Nobody wants that in the middle of Europe.
Hungary is also contributing to overall NATO economics, and being able to use their airspace is also nice.
On the darker side: most of Europe has been moving towards the far-right, and Orban is part of that gang. The political will to push Hungary out could be impossible to gather, especially when you add in all the corrupt politicians in Russias pocket.
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An election is coming up in Hungary in April and the opposition party is in a pretty good position to win. The leader of the opposition, Peter Magyar, is pro-EU and has been highly critical of Orban's relationship with Russia. It might be worth seeing how that plays out before throwing Hungary to the side. The EU has already cut them off on some things.
Having said that, Orban has done a lot to consolidate his power and their democracy is seriously challenged. If Orban wins again, I think the EU should seriously consider cutting bait with them. Their democratic backsliding has fallen to the point that they wouldn't even be allowed to join if they weren't already in.
As for NATO, I read before that there is actually no mechanism to kick a country out. The other countries could choose not to honour the alliance if a country becomes a problem, but it's a bit of a slippery slope as well. NATO would probably prefer to keep them even if they are a pain instead of having them full on defect and join the CTSO or something stupid like that, and basically have another Belarus on their border.
It's also worth mentioning that Hungary currently leads the Baltic Air Policing NATO mission. Despite Orban's talk, their military is still participating at least.
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Multiple reasons, some good and some bad.
For one, neither EU or NATO particularly likes the precedent.
Second, even though especially the international news only talk about Orban being a POS and resisting everything, EU actually has quite a lot of sway over Hungary, and they have been able to push Hungary around more than you'd realize, for example when it comes to political freedoms. Those freedoms are a reason why Orban might still lose his grip on power through an election, just as an example of why that matters.
Throwing them out would basically force Hungary into the hands of Russia, China or Trump, as they'd be really effed. They could in fact be so effed economically (they're a landlocked country surrounded by other EU countries plus Ukraine), easpecially with a country at war right next door, that the country could become destabilized, a haven for criminal activity, Russian and Chinese spy activity etc. Nobody wants that in the middle of Europe.
Hungary is also contributing to overall NATO economics, and being able to use their airspace is also nice.
On the darker side: most of Europe has been moving towards the far-right, and Orban is part of that gang. The political will to push Hungary out could be impossible to gather, especially when you add in all the corrupt politicians in Russias pocket.
Also Budapest is a hell of a night out!
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9 wars! I stopped 10 wars everybody! Look at me! Ignore the Epstein files!
No other president has ever stopped 11 wars before!
Ukraine just has to hang in there until Russia implodes economically. Why, after almost 5 years, would you tell them to surrender and give up the land that has been stolen?!
I ask this, I suppose, as a Canadian who woke up this morning warm and safe in his bed... I imagine the premise of my world no longer going boom around me with no more friends and family dying would probably sound pretty good after this long.
I'd like to believe I'm old and stubborn. And that I would never, ever, under any circumstances give up. But I am not there so I have no right to judge if that is ultimately their decision.
But I hope they don't give up their lost lands. I hope they keep fighting with the same resilience, ferocity, and tenacity that they have been fighting with so far. And I hope they keep bombing the s**t out of Russia.
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Nothing Zelenskyy has done would indicate he's willing to surrender, the US going hat in hand to him to ask them to though...sounds like Russia is finally feeling the burn.
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"EU imports from Russia worth €124 billion have exceeded the amount of aid provided to Ukraine since the start of the full-scale invasion." - stated Sweden’s Foreign Minister Maria Malmer Stenergard. https://twitter.com/user/status/1991491575449301375
he commander of the 247th Guards Caucasian Cossack Airborne Assault Regiment of the Russian Armed Forces stripped his soldiers naked, put them in a pit, and forced them to have sex with each other... https://twitter.com/user/status/1991520078328996042
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9 wars! I stopped 10 wars everybody! Look at me! Ignore the Epstein files!
No other president has ever stopped 11 wars before!
Ukraine just has to hang in there until Russia implodes economically. Why, after almost 5 years, would you tell them to surrender and give up the land that has been stolen?!
I ask this, I suppose, as a Canadian who woke up this morning warm and safe in his bed... I imagine the premise of my world no longer going boom around me with no more friends and family dying would probably sound pretty good after this long.
I'd like to believe I'm old and stubborn. And that I would never, ever, under any circumstances give up. But I am not there so I have no right to judge if that is ultimately their decision.
But I hope they don't give up their lost lands. I hope they keep fighting with the same resilience, ferocity, and tenacity that they have been fighting with so far. And I hope they keep bombing the s**t out of Russia.
Yeah, I get it as well. It's easy to say fight, fight, fight from our safe country. If it ever gets to a point that Ukrainians decide giving up territory is necessary to move on, I certainly won't hold it against them. The fact they made it this far made a huge statement to Russia and what is in store for them if they try anything greater than that.
A lot of the occupied territories have been demographically modified with little for Ukrainians to go back to. Welcoming the area back into the Ukrainian body politic is going to be hard.
But if Ukraine ever has to concede territory for peace, that should be it. This 28 part plan also has them disarming and reducing their military with "security guarantees". That just invites a future invasion from Russia because we saw already what good security guarantees are. As the Ukrainian gentleman in the video mentioned, the only security guarantee is their own ability to defend themselves, not to leave themselves at the mercy of others. If they have to give up territory, they should be allowed to fortify the rest of their country fully. NATO membership and even nuclear deterrents if they want it.
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