Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Firebot

WTF is going on in this thread?

The budget passed so now we’re letting Doctorfever and Fonz explore their topics of interest.

[calgarygeologist]

This is finally a step in the right direction but it is not ideal to see that food and alcohol still doesn't have free trade across Canada.

An agreement between all Canadian provinces, territories, and the federal government signed today will drop interprovincial trade barriers on many goods except food and alcohol starting in December. It comes as part of an effort to support businesses with more trade opportunities in light of U.S. tariffs.

B.C. Minister of Jobs and Economic Growth Ravi Kahlon said the agreement, signed in Yellowknife on Wednesday, is the outcome of a nationwide push led by B.C. to reduce domestic trade barriers.

“This agreement makes it easier for goods that meet the rules in one province or territory to be sold across Canada without extra approvals, labels, or testing,” he said at an announcement in Victoria.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...pped-9.6984871

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This is finally a step in the right direction but it is not ideal to see that food and alcohol still doesn't have free trade across Canada.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...pped-9.6984871

And isn't this the biggest issue? The rest seems like small potatoes.

[direwolf]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

This is finally a step in the right direction but it is not ideal to see that food and alcohol still doesn't have free trade across Canada.


https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...pped-9.6984871

Sounds like the food/alcohol part is more complicated. I think it'll happen, but it might take longer to figure out. From the article:

James Donaldson, CEO of the B.C. Food and Beverage Association, said provinces have different safety standards around food, particularly meats, so he wasn’t surprised that it may take longer to lower trade barriers on it.

Donaldson wants the country to determine a unified set of food safety standards to make it easier to lower trade barriers.

He also hopes alcohol will soon be included in expanded interprovincial trade opportunities. B.C. has signed a memorandum of understanding to support direct-to-consumer alcohol sales with other provinces.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Sounds like the food/alcohol part is more complicated. I think it'll happen, but it might take longer to figure out. From the article:

There might be some regulation differences around food although I doubt the differences are significant because most of it likely aligns closely with whatever is set out under federal regulations from Health Canada and CFIA.

Alcohol should be quick and easy and should have been achieved by now. It hasn't been done because provincial lobbies are still pulling too many strings to protect their industries.

[chemgear]

And more.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/port...tle-land-claim

First Nation seeks Aboriginal title over Coquitlam and Port Coquitlam areas





https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...s-on-canadian/

Alaska tribal nations demand a say on Canadian resource projects

A group of Alaska tribal nations is going to the B.C. Supreme Court to demand a seat at the table in Canadian resource development – including a mine expansion that is among the nation-building projects Ottawa has selected as pivotal to economic development.

The Alaska groups argue that their historical use of what is now northwestern B.C. makes them Aboriginal peoples of Canada under the Constitution Act, saying that status should guarantee them the same rights to consultation as Canadian Indigenous groups.

[TheIronMaiden]

I always fingered that a windfall of land claims in B.C would come as a result of there being no treaties. Now would be a great time to become a historian specializing in pre settlement B.C.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by chemgear

And more.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/port...tle-land-claim

First Nation seeks Aboriginal title over Coquitlam and Port Coquitlam areas

More clickbait content to rile up the uninformed. Real breaking news there:

In 2016, Kwikwetlem filed a claim in court asserting Aboriginal title to several major parcels of land in southwest Port Coquitlam and southeast Coquitlam.

Virtually every square kilometer of BC is covered by (sometimes overlapping) land claims and has been for most of the last few decades. This is standard procedure in BC where First Nations claim Aboriginal Title over large areas in order to seek compensation. And in this case, they're not even claiming private land, only government land.

On the bright side, maybe some people will panic sell and houses will get more affordable in BC.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I always fingered that a windfall of land claims in B.C would come as a result of there being no treaties. Now would be a great time to become a historian specializing in pre settlement B.C.

It has been like that for decades. When I was in university 20 years ago one of my history professors was talking about how much work there was in land claim stuff in the '90s and up until then and how it was basically a gravy train for lawyers and some researchers. Some of these claims have been going on since the '70s, shortly after the Supreme Court recognized that First Nations have a legal right to land they occupied.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by opendoor

It has been like that for decades. When I was in university 20 years ago one of my history professors was talking about how much work there was in land claim stuff in the '90s and up until then and how it was basically a gravy train for lawyers and some researchers. Some of these claims have been going on since the '70s, shortly after the Supreme Court recognized that First Nations have a legal right to land they occupied.

When I was in grad school, my supervisor told me that I should only look at that kind of work if I loved money but hated myself. He had a lot of tough experiences with Metis tax claims. I did a fair bit of TRC related work in health care, and TBH it ####ed me up pretty bad. The history is much more bleak that most people even realize.

Land won't solve all the problems, but it sure as hell is a good start. Especially in a place like B.C where most settlement doesn't start in full until after 1920. Lots of fresh wounds.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by opendoor

More clickbait content to rile up the uninformed. Real breaking news there:



Virtually every square kilometer of BC is covered by (sometimes overlapping) land claims and has been for most of the last few decades. This is standard procedure in BC where First Nations claim Aboriginal Title over large areas in order to seek compensation. And in this case, they're not even claiming private land, only government land.

On the bright side, maybe some people will panic sell and houses will get more affordable in BC.

Yup, the Richmond case was ongoing for more than a decade I think? Funny the spotlight came on it recently and it's now in the news.

These cases have been going on for years and the appeals will continue to go on for more years if not decades. I'm sure the ongoing uncertainly will continue to linger as it drags out. Might be a good buy if you have the lump sum in cash up for the risk with mortgage lending and financing in limbo in the meantime.

The City made a statement yesterday about "vigorously defending public ownership" which is why it's in the news. I'm sure more cities (and the public) will be reassessing and future purchases as we go from Richmond, to Kamloops, to Port Coquitlam and so forth. It'll be an interest watch now that people are more aware of the ongoing litigation and potential risk.

[Harry Lime]

I am hereby laying personal claim to Scotland. And Northern Ireland. (My family were part of the coastal clan that traveled between the two)

Somehow, I think that i can get the backing of the people, and promise to be a benevolent ruler. I will also Marcus Aurelius that ####, and make it a republic upon my death.

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

I am hereby laying personal claim to Scotland. And Northern Ireland. (My family were part of the coastal clan that traveled between the two)

Somehow, I think that i can get the backing of the people, and promise to be a benevolent ruler. I will also Marcus Aurelius that ####, and make it a republic upon my death.

I'm sure you're just claiming the "government" owned not the privately owned lands of course.

(. . . for now.)

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by chemgear

Yup, the Richmond case was ongoing for more than a decade I think? Funny the spotlight came on it recently and it's now in the news.

These cases have been going on for years and the appeals will continue to go on for more years if not decades. I'm sure the ongoing uncertainly will continue to linger as it drags out. Might be a good buy if you have the lump sum in cash up for the risk with mortgage lending and financing in limbo in the meantime.

The City made a statement yesterday about "vigorously defending public ownership" which is why it's in the news. I'm sure more cities (and the public) will be reassessing and future purchases as we go from Richmond, to Kamloops, to Port Coquitlam and so forth. It'll be an interest watch now that people are more aware of the ongoing litigation and potential risk.

The spotlight came on it recently because the court ruled on it recently (and in favour of the Cowichan claim).

I'm guessing no one was expecting that their titles would actually get ruled as invalid before that, so it wasn't a big story that these claims were before the courts.
Now everyone is wondering if their property titles are at risk and how many of these claims will be successful. A ton of questions marks right now.