11-18-2025, 09:33 AM
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#13021
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Win, and you'll attract free agents. But, you need to have a core to build around, which we do not have right now. That's still a work in progress.
All vets should be on the table. Andersson is as good as gone. As for the other two that are mentioned constantly, the market will dictate if they move or not. I think Coleman will be a hot commodity based on his veteran presence and playoff experience. He was a big asset to Tampa Bay during their cup wins. As for Kadri, it is a win-win for me if he stays or goes. He's easily our best forward and is a great vet. If he wants to stay and has intentions of being our middle 6 C down the road, then so be it. We don't have any other player to surpass him as the top dog center. Only move him if someone comes in and overpays.
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11-18-2025, 09:52 AM
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#13022
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
I haven't seen one rumour to this effect. It's this board that is hot to move him. Me too, but that doesn't mean there are a bunch of offers Conroy is sitting on.
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I think there have been a few stories and comments that there is a significant amount of interest in Coleman. I read one a couple days ago that suggested there may be more interest in him around the league than Andersson or Kadri. That may be crazy talk, but I definitely get the impression there is significant interest. And why wouldn't there be? If you're a contender looking to add playoff depth, Coleman is pretty much the blueprint: experience, smarts, leadership, physical, can score, blocks shots...
I would be shocked if there are any playoff teams NOT interested in Coleman.
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11-18-2025, 10:02 AM
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#13023
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I think there have been a few stories and comments that there is a significant amount of interest in Coleman. I read one a couple days ago that suggested there may be more interest in him around the league than Andersson or Kadri. That may be crazy talk, but I definitely get the impression there is significant interest. And why wouldn't there be? If you're a contender looking to add playoff depth, Coleman is pretty much the blueprint: experience, smarts, leadership, physical, can score, blocks shots...
I would be shocked if there are any playoff teams NOT interested in Coleman.
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Oh, I said as much the other day. He fits on any team except one in Calgary's position. I just hadn't seen stories that there's some sort of a lineup - just the usual speculation here. There's sort of a CP effect sometimes where we talk about stuff like this and it gets elevated into reporting in people's memories.
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11-18-2025, 10:28 AM
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#13024
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I think there have been a few stories and comments that there is a significant amount of interest in Coleman. I read one a couple days ago that suggested there may be more interest in him around the league than Andersson or Kadri. That may be crazy talk, but I definitely get the impression there is significant interest. And why wouldn't there be? If you're a contender looking to add playoff depth, Coleman is pretty much the blueprint: experience, smarts, leadership, physical, can score, blocks shots...
I would be shocked if there are any playoff teams NOT interested in Coleman.
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Yeah I think maybe it was Drager but he said that the Flames aren't shopping him but teams are calling the Flames about him. He represents the perfect playoff addition for teams on the cusp. He's a guy you can put on the ice in the playoffs in all situations when the game is on the line and feel good that not only is he not going to hurt you but could score a big goal. With the salary cap going up, his contract is no longer a big obstacle even with a year left on it.
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11-18-2025, 10:31 AM
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#13025
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I think there have been a few stories and comments that there is a significant amount of interest in Coleman. I read one a couple days ago that suggested there may be more interest in him around the league than Andersson or Kadri. That may be crazy talk, but I definitely get the impression there is significant interest. And why wouldn't there be? If you're a contender looking to add playoff depth, Coleman is pretty much the blueprint: experience, smarts, leadership, physical, can score, blocks shots...
I would be shocked if there are any playoff teams NOT interested in Coleman.
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Im sure there's interest. That said what are playoff teams willing to pay in order to upgrade their 8th/9th forward spot in the lineup? If it's a 2nd rounder, then does Calgary pull the trigger?
I could see a team like Toronto being a good fit, but they might not even make Coleman's 10-team trade list. Also knowing Tre, it would be an offer like Carlo for Coleman.
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11-18-2025, 10:33 AM
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#13026
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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11-18-2025, 10:44 AM
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#13027
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Franchise Player
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I will guess that Kadri gets traded, for nothing else than simply Kadri hasn't refuted any rumours.
Coleman I am fine with keeping depending on the trade values out there. If teams are only offering up a 2nd and/or a B-level prospect, I would rather keep him unless he asks for a trade. He can be one of the vets that both helps to keep the Flames above the cap, as well as being an absolute perfect vet that the kids can learn from. If Backlund was to retire today, Coleman would have my vote for the captaincy.
However, if a first is on the table (or more), then obviously I hope over the fence onto the other side.
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11-18-2025, 10:52 AM
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#13028
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gvitaly
Im sure there's interest. That said what are playoff teams willing to pay in order to upgrade their 8th/9th forward spot in the lineup? If it's a 2nd rounder, then does Calgary pull the trigger?
I could see a team like Toronto being a good fit, but they might not even make Coleman's 10-team trade list. Also knowing Tre, it would be an offer like Carlo for Coleman.
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Not a chance in hell Conroy would take a 2nd for Coleman this year. Why would he? That value will be there easily next year at the deadline.
Coleman cost a 1st to get 2 cheap runs out of him from the Devils. He now boasts a resume with 2 cups and a 30 goal season. With 2 runs at 50% retained I could see a contender sending a 1st. Otherwise I would keep him as he is a valued leader in the room
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11-18-2025, 10:54 AM
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#13029
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Franchise Player
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I see Coleman as more of a 2nd + 3rd type of return, as opposed to a 1st. But would love a 1st, of course.
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11-18-2025, 10:55 AM
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#13030
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Not a chance in hell Conroy would take a 2nd for Coleman this year. Why would he? That value will be there easily next year at the deadline.
Coleman cost a 1st to get 2 cheap runs out of him from the Devils. He now boasts a resume with 2 cups and a 30 goal season. With 2 runs at 50% retained I could see a contender sending a 1st. Otherwise I would keep him as he is a valued leader in the room
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Agreed, for Conroy to move him this year with retention, the cost has to be at least a first. Otherwise, simply wait until next year. There is no urgency to move him this year.
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11-18-2025, 10:56 AM
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#13031
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With retention, the return HAS to include a 1st.
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11-18-2025, 10:56 AM
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#13032
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I see Coleman as more of a 2nd + 3rd type of return, as opposed to a 1st. But would love a 1st, of course.
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I think he gets that next year at the deadline. If a teams wants him for 2 runs it will cost a 1st in my opinion. Just like Conroy has done with a lot of his assets he will walk them to the deadline if he doesn’t get what he wants.
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11-18-2025, 10:57 AM
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#13033
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If no vets are moved by the deadline then I will get on the Flames management sucks bandwagon until then I find it hard to get riled up by reporters looking for clicks
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11-18-2025, 11:04 AM
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#13034
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Blake Coleman coming off a 36 point 22 goal season, and in the middle of a 31 point in 57 game stretch returned a 1st and Nolan Foote (who was a 1st from the prior draft) with 2 years left on his deal.
If you retain 50% on Coleman and trade him before this deadline I wouldn't be surprised if he returned something similar.
His last 3 seasons are the highest point totals of his career, he's a proven playoff performer, and the type of guy that teams covet come playoff time/
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11-18-2025, 11:09 AM
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#13035
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First Line Centre
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This could be one of the better sellers markets we have seen in quite some time with the amount of parity we are seeing league wide, in addition to the pending UFA class being downright terrible.
If Conroy doesn't take advantage of that given our placement in the standings then I will lose a ton of faith in his decision making. Time will tell.
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11-18-2025, 11:34 AM
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#13036
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Best case scenario for me this season would see the Flames trading Ras, Coleman and Kadri, the last two with retention to maximize value and help stay above the floor going forward. End up with three more first round picks spread out over the next 2-3 drafts, plus other assets (prospects & picks past the first round).
Then win 1st overall in 2026 and also have Vegas fall apart the rest of the season, miss the playoffs and have their pick jump into the top 5.
Not asking for much really.
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11-18-2025, 11:35 AM
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#13037
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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Originally Posted by Jason14h
If BT has even a 1% thought of dealing Knies Conroy should be calling and texting him every 5 mins
Need a Zary in the deal ? Done. Need us to take someone else back ? Done
Knies is what you hope a top 3-5 pick turns into
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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan
This could be one of the better sellers markets we have seen in quite some time with the amount of parity we are seeing league wide, in addition to the pending UFA class being downright terrible.
If Conroy doesn't take advantage of that given our placement in the standings then I will lose a ton of faith in his decision making. Time will tell.
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It's a great position right now. But there's a balance to be had if you're a GM with 3 major trade assets in a sellers market. You can't go to the deadline with all three as a) a handful or more of potential buyers find themselves questioning/knowing that they're not going to contend this season between now and the deadline, and b) You can't flood the market with your own assets all at the same time.
I suspect if the right offers are there for Andersson, Coleman and Kadri that we end up seeing at least one of the three traded by Janurary, at the latest.
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11-18-2025, 11:36 AM
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#13038
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Best case scenario for me this season would see the Flames trading Ras, Coleman and Kadri, the last two with retention to maximize value and help stay above the floor going forward. End up with three more first round picks spread out over the next 2-3 drafts, plus other assets (prospects & picks past the first round).
Then win 1st overall in 2026 and also have Vegas fall apart the rest of the season, miss the playoffs and have their pick jump into the top 5.
Not asking for much really.
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....if we're going into the realm of fantasy, why not have the Flames win the cup, then Vegas misses the playoffs but wins the lottery.
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11-18-2025, 11:38 AM
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#13039
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy
Best case scenario for me this season would see the Flames trading Ras, Coleman and Kadri, the last two with retention to maximize value and help stay above the floor going forward. End up with three more first round picks spread out over the next 2-3 drafts, plus other assets (prospects & picks past the first round).
Then win 1st overall in 2026 and also have Vegas fall apart the rest of the season, miss the playoffs and have their pick jump into the top 5.
Not asking for much really.
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Yes please. It’s about time the flames had some luck with trades, picks and lotteries. Picking twice in the top 5 this year would be a monster boost for this team. Come out of the draft with McKenna, Lawrence and Joe Iginla.
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11-18-2025, 11:57 AM
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#13040
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Not a chance in hell Conroy would take a 2nd for Coleman this year. Why would he? That value will be there easily next year at the deadline.
Coleman cost a 1st to get 2 cheap runs out of him from the Devils. He now boasts a resume with 2 cups and a 30 goal season. With 2 runs at 50% retained I could see a contender sending a 1st. Otherwise I would keep him as he is a valued leader in the room
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Coleman was 28 then, and still had more potential offensively. The Lightning were paying for a top 6 player in his prime. He still ended up on the 3rd line which was instrumental in the success and cups Tampa won.
That's kind of my point though. Is it good asset management for a playoff team to spend more than a 2nd for a 33 yearold to upgrade their 3rd line LW/RW position? At the same time, I doubt the Flames would be happy with only getting a 2nd back.
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