11-16-2025, 11:14 PM
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#12941
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
I find it hilarious that the Leafs are as mid as they are.
In the last year, Treliving:
1) Let Mitch Marner walk for nothing (turns out he didn't learn anything from the Gaudreau situation - whether that would have been re-signing him as soon as possible, or trading him prior to entering last season, both would have been better than what he did).
2) Traded a 1st Round Pick for a 2nd pair defenceman
3) Traded a 1st Round Pick for a 3rd/4th line Centre/Winger.
How to go from a "have" team to a "have not" team in the course of one year.
It's impressive work.
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Come on now he has definitely improved. We got a bottom pairing defender at least he got a mid pairing this time.
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11-16-2025, 11:16 PM
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#12942
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
I find it hilarious that the Leafs are as mid as they are.
In the last year, Treliving:
1) Let Mitch Marner walk for nothing (turns out he didn't learn anything from the Gaudreau situation - whether that would have been re-signing him as soon as possible, or trading him prior to entering last season, both would have been better than what he did).
2) Traded a 1st Round Pick for a 2nd pair defenceman
3) Traded a 1st Round Pick for a 3rd/4th line Centre/Winger.
How to go from a "have" team to a "have not" team in the course of one year.
It's impressive work.
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I think his work in Toronto has been worse than Calgary. The Marner thing is just weird. Giving up high picks for mid players is a Toronto thing though, not just Treliving. Must be something in the water. It’s happened for years
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11-16-2025, 11:19 PM
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#12943
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Or a 1st + Cowan
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meh, other teams could beat that
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11-16-2025, 11:31 PM
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#12944
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roko
I am ready for something to happen now.
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These are tantric trades, gotta hold on a bit longer. Should be worth it though.
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11-17-2025, 01:13 AM
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#12945
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
I find it hilarious that the Leafs are as mid as they are.
In the last year, Treliving:
1) Let Mitch Marner walk for nothing (turns out he didn't learn anything from the Gaudreau situation - whether that would have been re-signing him as soon as possible, or trading him prior to entering last season, both would have been better than what he did).
2) Traded a 1st Round Pick for a 2nd pair defenceman
3) Traded a 1st Round Pick for a 3rd/4th line Centre/Winger.
How to go from a "have" team to a "have not" team in the course of one year.
It's impressive work.
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Quite the wizard
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11-17-2025, 01:52 AM
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#12946
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ComixZone
I find it hilarious that the Leafs are as mid as they are.
In the last year, Treliving:
1) Let Mitch Marner walk for nothing (turns out he didn't learn anything from the Gaudreau situation - whether that would have been re-signing him as soon as possible, or trading him prior to entering last season, both would have been better than what he did).
2) Traded a 1st Round Pick for a 2nd pair defenceman
3) Traded a 1st Round Pick for a 3rd/4th line Centre/Winger.
How to go from a "have" team to a "have not" team in the course of one year.
It's impressive work.
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How can you re-sign a player before he enters the last year of his contract? Marners NMC kicked in on the same day he could potentially sign an extension. I'm sure they could've done some negotiating before hand, but that doesn't really guarantee a signing.
I agree with the rest. It was some really baffling asset management by Tre. He always seemed to overvalue below market contracts with term. He blew all his assets on 1 run and a 2nd round exit. To be fair, they were FLAs toughest opponent last year.
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11-17-2025, 05:50 AM
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#12947
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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I think Treliving is terrible, but it's been asserted probably accurately, that his hands were tied in the Marner situation as Shanahan wouldn't let him trade him before the NMC kicked in.
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11-17-2025, 07:39 AM
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#12948
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
I think Treliving is terrible, but it's been asserted probably accurately, that his hands were tied in the Marner situation as Shanahan wouldn't let him trade him before the NMC kicked in.
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Brad needs to be more assertive. It was alleged his hands were tied here and that ownership was forcing him to compete now. But as soon as Conroy came in the compete now mandate disappeared and Conroy was allowed to start a rebuild effort.
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11-17-2025, 07:47 AM
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#12949
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
I think Treliving is terrible, but it's been asserted probably accurately, that his hands were tied in the Marner situation as Shanahan wouldn't let him trade him before the NMC kicked in.
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How does that even make sense? So you can trade him after the NMC kicks totally hamstringing the GM but not before?
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11-17-2025, 08:17 AM
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#12950
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Royle9
FWIW I’ve been told numerous times it’s not happening.
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But but but but a media guy said something so we need to treat it as gospel and overreact!
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11-17-2025, 08:21 AM
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#12951
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
I think Treliving is terrible, but it's been asserted probably accurately, that his hands were tied in the Marner situation as Shanahan wouldn't let him trade him before the NMC kicked in.
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Marner is a really good winger but the assets Treliving gave up for junk surely could have brought in a productive top six winger to at least help replace some of that production. Instead he does what he always does which is double down on bottom six forwards and bottom three defensemen.
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11-17-2025, 08:29 AM
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#12952
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saqe
How does that even make sense? So you can trade him after the NMC kicks totally hamstringing the GM but not before?
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Its quite well known that Shanahan believed in the core and wanted to keep giving them more chances. Its been reported that Treliving was told he couldn't trade Marner before his NMC kicked in on orders from above. They only allowed him after once it probably became clear that Marner wasn't going to re-sign. By then it was too late.
The time to trade Marner was a year before. None of this makes Treliving a good GM; just means in this particular situation his options were limited If he was able to trade Marner, he probably would have lost that trade imo, but that's another criticism.
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11-17-2025, 08:49 AM
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#12953
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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So the Leafs are looking for roster trades. Friedman states that only Matthews, Nylander, Knies, and Tavares would be untouchable (32 thoughts POD)
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11-17-2025, 08:57 AM
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#12954
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MrMike
Quite the wizard
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He's good at making competitiveness and value disappear.
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11-17-2025, 09:02 AM
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#12955
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
So the Leafs are looking for roster trades. Friedman states that only Matthews, Nylander, Knies, and Tavares would be untouchable (32 thoughts POD)
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I mean, who else could possibly be untouchable on that team? Reilly?
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11-17-2025, 09:05 AM
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#12956
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
I mean, who else could possibly be untouchable on that team? Reilly?
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I thought he might be in the mix but apparently not but I believe he has a NMC so unlikely they can move him for much value.
Nick Robertson is not going to get them much.
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11-17-2025, 09:27 AM
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#12957
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Reilly's been the subtle whipping boy for awhile. It was undeserved years ago, but he's been declining a couple seasons naturally that comes with age, but it's coming fast. He's now no more than a second pairing dman. So at this point they have Ekman-Larsson who's a good #2, and many guys who are 2nd and 3rd pairings. Up front they simply need their stars to play more physical in the slot, which they will not do. They don't have draft picks coming. Ultimately nobody is going to trade depth for star power. IMO, they're kinda screwed here. So much of this is on Matthews as he doesn't change his game. We'll see when he comes back from injury but I think they're content with his numbers and his great shot. They need to lean on him to be fearless go through guys. Doubt they do it.
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11-17-2025, 09:32 AM
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#12958
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Franchise Player
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I am sure that we will here rumours of the Flames talking contract with Andersson a few times this season. I look forward to the freak-outs it will cause with some posters here. Try to remember that it is almost certainly posturing - if the Flames are willing to re-sign Andersson, then the other team better up their offer to make it worthwhile for the Flames not to re-sign him.
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11-17-2025, 09:48 AM
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#12959
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First Line Centre
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Even if it's not posturing I'm not against Rasmus extending here. It all depends on when he sees the team turning around
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11-17-2025, 10:02 AM
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#12960
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#1 Goaltender
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So…if the Flames burn all the vets this year…Ras, Coleman and Kadri….how are they going to make it to the cap floor for 26-27? Will they not have to take on UFAs? And this year’s draft picks won’t be ready for several years, or do we just keep bringing in undeveloped 19 and 20 year olds and hope they don’t get hurt constantly?
I don’t see how that works in any effective manner. Or does one expect that they’ll just take on a slew of bad contracts?
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