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Old 11-16-2025, 12:35 PM   #12861
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Of course he has to go with the careful answers, that is the only appropriate response and I thought he handled it really well (in fact I thought he was terrific in the entire interview!).

But whenever I hear 'it's a business' and 'I just have to stay in the moment', for me that is code for 'I expect things to be traded'. It is out of his control of course, and there is little he can do about it. But it seemed pretty evident to me that he expects - or at least wouldn't be surprised by - a trade.
Kadri is also one of the more blunt personalities with the media. We all remember him shutting down talk about a weak season at the start of last year. If he’s being asked questions he doesn’t feel are in line with reality or are based on poor information he’s not afraid to call it out, so soft answers like this say a lot.

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Fair enough. But two things to consider on that:

1) Teams rarely state publicly what they believe privately - and I'm pretty sure you understand that fact. And to take that one step further, ME has a long and detailed resume of making public statements for negotiating purposes, as opposed to informational purposes.

2) When public statements aren't in line with actions, choosing the statements over the actions, in determining what their intentions are, is... not the way I would go.
Agreed. People expect these statements to have no agenda but they almost always do. Whether it’s avoid negotiating from the weakest position possible or delaying fair weather fans taking a break, there’s always some gamesmanship going on in these kinds of statements and to deny that and say “just because they’re doing X doesn’t mean they’re doing X because they said they were doing Y” is a really hard position to logically back up. Which is why it so often looks like that crowd is ignoring reality when they try to suggest a rebuild isn’t happening.
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Old 11-16-2025, 12:36 PM   #12862
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The Andersson ball is rolling ??..
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Old 11-16-2025, 12:40 PM   #12863
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You’d almost think Ras was told he was being moved right before he went out for that shoot out attempt.
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Old 11-16-2025, 12:45 PM   #12864
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The ball is rolling? I'm assuming the Nashville colours of the ball is just a coincidence.
Or the ball is the same colour as Sweden perhaps meaning the ball is rolling on Andersson?
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Old 11-16-2025, 12:46 PM   #12865
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You guys put more thoughts into the guesses than the guy ever does in the clues.
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Old 11-16-2025, 12:50 PM   #12866
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If Detroit is actually the team, I'd love more than a few things they have.

Danielson
Willander
Kiiskinen
Tuomisto
Buium (he's injured and hasn't played a game this year it seems so that's a risk)

Yeah they have things if love to have on the flames.
The Red Wings have been rumoured to be wanting Andersson since the summer. It makes sense as their NHL RD depth is fairly nonexistent after Seider.

Seider is averaging 25:20 TOI right now, which is really, really high. Chiarot (LD) is the only vet worth mentioning as Hamonic (I forgot he was still active) is only playing 13:53 per night and only in 9/19 games. Everyone else in the D group is between 20-25 years old.

The Red Wings would benefit greatly from adding Andersson in the near term to be a leader in a group of rookies and help stabilize their season so they can finally return to the playoffs. To that end, it makes sense for them to make a trade sooner than later to gain more benefit in the season.

The price would have to be one of Kasper or Danielson. The Flames do not need a winger or RD and with Kuznetsov looking good thus far in the season I would say that a LD is not a priority either.

So can it go across as a 1:1 or does the Flames need to add? If the Flames need to add, I do not think it is a huge add considering there are other suitors. 3rd round pick? B prospect?
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Old 11-16-2025, 12:56 PM   #12867
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Old 11-16-2025, 12:58 PM   #12868
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Old 11-16-2025, 12:59 PM   #12869
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I have a hard time believing Rasmus would agree to sign in Detroit based on the rumors from the summer and his refusal to go to LA. Doesn't Detroit have one of the highest crime rate in the US?

Plus wasn't Detroit the city that tried to end his career in scooter accident?
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Old 11-16-2025, 01:04 PM   #12870
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I have a hard time believing Rasmus would agree to sign in Detroit based on the rumors from the summer and his refusal to go to LA. Doesn't Detroit have one of the highest crime rate in the US?

Plus wasn't Detroit the city that tried to end his career in scooter accident?
He won’t live in any of those high crime areas

Every major US city has a high crime area
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Old 11-16-2025, 01:10 PM   #12871
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The longer the season goes on the more likely it is he gets traded as a rental. Players of his caliber get moved for 1sts or equivalent as a rental all the time and if the flames retain half he should bring back a lot. And comparing the value to what we got for players like hanifin even after agreeing to sign a deal, when your market is limited to 1-3 teams what is the difference for the flames, a bad prospect?

I dont see any scenario where detroit trade kasper. He's struggling this year but hes basically put up 20 goals and 40 points as a 20 year old while being one of their best two way forwards. He's backlund with a much higher ceiling. Danielson has never really set the world on fire since coming into their system and he is from Alberta if the flames scouts like him that could make sense. Their 1st is way too risky for them to trade. They have two fairly high end goalie prospects so one of those guys could get dealt but obviously not a need for the flames long run. Don't see them moving branding either but max plante could be an interesting guy as well.

That sort of flashy playmaker is what the flames are missing but hes far from a sure thing
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The longer the season goes on the more likely it is he gets traded as a rental. Players of his caliber get moved for 1sts or equivalent as a rental all the time and if the flames retain half he should bring back a lot. And comparing the value to what we got for players like hanifin even after agreeing to sign a deal, when your market is limited to 1-3 teams what is the difference for the flames, a bad prospect?

I dont see any scenario where detroit trade kasper. He's struggling this year but hes basically put up 20 goals and 40 points as a 20 year old while being one of their best two way forwards. He's backlund with a much higher ceiling. Danielson has never really set the world on fire since coming into their system and he is from Alberta if the flames scouts like him that could make sense. Their 1st is way too risky for them to trade. They have two fairly high end goalie prospects so one of those guys could get dealt but obviously not a need for the flames long run. Don't see them moving branding either but max plante could be an interesting guy as well.

That sort of flashy playmaker is what the flames are missing but hes far from a sure thing
Sir he's not missing...

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I have a hard time believing Rasmus would agree to sign in Detroit based on the rumors from the summer and his refusal to go to LA. Doesn't Detroit have one of the highest crime rate in the US?

Plus wasn't Detroit the city that tried to end his career in scooter accident?
Niklas Lidstrom is vp of hockey ops in Detroit. Lots of Swedes on the roster. Definitely a team whose better days are ahead of them.

There are dots to connect him to Detroit.
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I have a hard time believing Rasmus would agree to sign in Detroit based on the rumors from the summer and his refusal to go to LA. Doesn't Detroit have one of the highest crime rate in the US?

Plus wasn't Detroit the city that tried to end his career in scooter accident?
That's probably why the Swedish looking ball is in the court. If it is true that Detroit has put a good offer forward and that Conroy is willing to accept it, then the only thing left would be Andersson's sign off.

The concerns around Detroit are valid and may be enough for him to squash the deal. I'm trying to stick to the roster considerations. The Red Wings depth chart for RD is:

Seider (24yo)
Sandin-Pellikka (20yo)
Bernard-Docker (25yo)
Hamonic (35yo)

Both Sandin-Pellikka and Bernard-Docker are former 1st round picks, so with time they may push Andersson out and he might not want to get into that situation... Which may be another reason for Andersson to say no. Then again, Bernard-Docker might be a bust? He hasn't seem to figure things out and is already on his 3rd org (OTT, BUF, DET). Either way, all he really has to do is insist on a full NMC so that if he does become the odd man out he cannot get traded without his sign off.

But if Andersson feels he can hold down the #2RD spot in Detroit this season, it could be good for him to get out of Calgary and start putting together a better season on a team that has an actual chance at the playoffs before his contract extension talks heat up.

Andersson has to be thinking that staying in Calgary is going to ruin his next contract. Being tied for 7th in points and 3rd in goals on a team that is not scoring or winning is hardly helping his case.

Also, the Red Wings have a lot of cap space, so retention isn't really a requirement. That may impact the return but it also opens up the retention slots for Kadri and Coleman.
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Where did I miss this Detroit rumour?
I haven’t heard anything myself.
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Coronato and Zary were both out in OT. And Coronato was (obviously) out with the net empty. Did you mean the shootout? I don't think shootouts have much to do with development. I do agree that it would be nice to split Backlund and Coleman and hand each one a rookie/sophomore.
I must've missed them out then. Unless you mean they were out on the 4 on 3.

It just looked as though it was Kadri - Farabee - Andersson alternating with Frost - Huberdeau - Weegar for most of OT. I was admittedly paying more attention to the D because I was curious if another defenseman aside from #4, and #52 will get any ice time, which they didn't.
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Where did I miss this Detroit rumour?
I haven’t heard anything myself.
I don't know either but probably a MSMM.
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I must've missed them out then. Unless you mean they were out on the 4 on 3.

It just looked as though it was Kadri - Farabee - Andersson alternating with Frost - Huberdeau - Weegar for most of OT. I was admittedly paying more attention to the D because I was curious if another defenseman aside from #4, and #52 will get any ice time, which they didn't.
I saw both of them out at times - couldn't tell you if with was in the last 1:30 when it was 4 on 3 (but if so, so what).
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I haven’t heard anything myself.
It was a leap from this post:

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I don't know either but probably a MSMM.
Someone quoted one of your messages from last night with a gif of a red wing. I know this will pain Sandman based on your response but outside of Detroit having what we may want I don't see a world where signs there.
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