Trump and his vile brown noser Pam Bondi are announcing an investigation into Bill Clinton and the Epstein files, which means they won’t be released due to an ongoing investigation. So obvious and corrupt.
So theyve had these files for how long and just now decided that there should be an investigation? Sure Jan...
How many of these "They voted for Trump. Now [something bad happened]" stories have been published in the past nine years? Seems like lazy journalism at this point.
Who could ever have predicted that a gold-obsessed real estate magnate from New York City wouldn't have the best interests of rural working-class people at heart.
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At this point it's difficult to think that there's any smoking gun in the files (like some really bad picture) otherwise it would have leaked by now.
And it's hard to believe that even if the House passes something that it'll get 60 votes in the Senate, and even harder to think that both could come up with a veto-proof vote...
But it feels like this issue has been hanging around and impacting Trump for a lot longer than anything else has.
No, I suspect there are several smoking guns in there, otherwise Donny wouldn't be trying to do anything in his power to stop the files from becoming public. The emails that came out weren't leaked. The oversite committee was able to subpoena them from the Epstein Estate. These files would only be a tinny fraction of what the Department of Justice has.
Trump and his vile brown noser Pam Bondi are announcing an investigation into Bill Clinton and the Epstein files, which means they won’t be released due to an ongoing investigation. So obvious and corrupt.
I don't see how that could help Trump at this point. Clinton probably knows even more about Trump than what is in the files. Like someone else said, that that point Clinton would have literally nothing to lose and become an open book.
The Bubba referenced in the email wasnt Clinton according to a journo who talked to Epsteins brother Mark, who was the other side of the email.
Specualtion now is that the Bubba is the guy who owns the Boondoggle Ranch, a hunting resort in Texas, and big gop donor ...same guy was visited by Patel last week and has subsequently scraped a bunch of info from his website
No, I suspect there are several smoking guns in there, otherwise Donny wouldn't be trying to do anything in his power to stop the files from becoming public. The emails that came out weren't leaked. The oversite committee was able to subpoena them from the Epstein Estate. These files would only be a tinny fraction of what the Department of Justice has.
There probably are several smoking guns, but there's also a large share of Americans right now that could watch trump shoot a man in the middle of 5th Ave, and spend the next three years explaining to us that the trigger slipped and it wasn't trumps fault, until after 3 years they just give up and say, no it's actually just acceptable to murder certain types of people if you a patriot. When it comes out that Trump raped a thirteen year old, we'll be three years away from a public and institutionalized 13 year old rape ring, and Trump supporters being just fine with it. Because their current opinions have already moved that far on other issues.
There probably are several smoking guns, but there's also a large share of Americans right now that could watch trump shoot a man in the middle of 5th Ave, and spend the next three years explaining to us that the trigger slipped and it wasn't trumps fault, until after 3 years they just give up and say, no it's actually just acceptable to murder certain types of people if you a patriot. When it comes out that Trump raped a thirteen year old, we'll be three years away from a public and institutionalized 13 year old rape ring, and Trump supporters being just fine with it. Because their current opinions have already moved that far on other issues.
But here is the thing, most American's that voted for Trump aren't actually Trump supporters. Most people that voted for Trump are actually good people that made a bad decision. We could argue that there was a lot of foreshadowing about Trump or whatever, but reality is that most Trump voters are not the crazy people we see in YouTube videos. I know we all fear that everything bounces off of Trump, but I truly believe there is a reckoning coming.
But here is the thing, most American's that voted for Trump aren't actually Trump supporters. Most people that voted for Trump are actually good people that made a bad decision. We could argue that there was a lot of foreshadowing about Trump or whatever, but reality is that most Trump voters are not the crazy people we see in YouTube videos. I know we all fear that everything bounces off of Trump, but I truly believe there is a reckoning coming.
The dude in the video voted for Trump three times. I'm sorry, but good people don't put men like that in power. "There was no other choice to the rapist" is not a rational position. You are in a democracy, there is always another choice. You may not like that that other party treats people like humans, and doesn't hate the gays like you do, but you chose to give power to someone who tried to overthrow your democracy because your hatred is stronger than your moral good.
"Donald Trump did not intend to cause a shutdown of a sawmill..." That's not the question to validate. Trump doesn't give a #### about anybody else. Certainly not you dumb asses who vote for him even if he kills your livelihood. You sacrificed that for fear. They don't see it as a bad decision, and they'd do it again.
I'm not going to feel bad for these people, and I'll make fun of their stupidity until the cows come home. What else can you do? They subjected the world to their own values, and they are reaping the rewards of that. If losing their family business because of voting for Trump isn't enough to act differently, there is no amount of being nice and coddling that will ever change their minds. They'll do it again.
No, they aren't good people who made a poor decision. They are lost monsters who will continue to ruin the lives of others for their own selfish wants. #### them.
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But here is the thing, most American's that voted for Trump aren't actually Trump supporters. Most people that voted for Trump are actually good people that made a bad decision. We could argue that there was a lot of foreshadowing about Trump or whatever, but reality is that most Trump voters are not the crazy people we see in YouTube videos. I know we all fear that everything bounces off of Trump, but I truly believe there is a reckoning coming.
But the fact that 38% of the population continues to approve of him tells me that the "crazy people" group is a heck of a lot of people.
Unfortunately, I think the Epstein files are much more of an issue for both parties. I mean, the Democrats could’ve released everything for four years and didn’t, and I don’t think that was an innocent oversight either. There are a lot of criminals and disgusting people implicated there and a lot of people on both sides who don’t want that to become public.
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Unfortunately, I think the Epstein files are much more of an issue for both parties. I mean, the Democrats could’ve released everything for four years and didn’t, and I don’t think that was an innocent oversight either. There are a lot of criminals and disgusting people implicated there and a lot of people on both sides who don’t want that to become public.
The Clintons seem to be fiercely protective of their legacy, and it always seemed likely that this was the reason everything hasn't come out. They probably have some mutual destruction agreement if one goes down, they take the other side down with them.
That's all too bad though, because I would guess most democrat supporters today would have no issue with Clinton going down if he deserved it.
Unfortunately, I think the Epstein files are much more of an issue for both parties. I mean, the Democrats could’ve released everything for four years and didn’t, and I don’t think that was an innocent oversight either. There are a lot of criminals and disgusting people implicated there and a lot of people on both sides who don’t want that to become public.
This could help the new Democrats banish the old corrupt wing of the party, so it might not be all bad. It's not like the Dems are some holy party of perfection. They are just a lot less bad than the alternative.
Unfortunately, I think the Epstein files are much more of an issue for both parties. I mean, the Democrats could’ve released everything for four years and didn’t, and I don’t think that was an innocent oversight either. There are a lot of criminals and disgusting people implicated there and a lot of people on both sides who don’t want that to become public.
I don’t think so as far as releasing the files. Under Obama the files were sealed by the court, I believe in 2008 after Acosta cut a plea deal with Epstein. Under Biden the files were sealed as there was an ongoing investigation into Maxwell and Epstein via the DOJ, which was still active up until Trump assumed office of this year. You can’t release evidence during an ongoing investigation.
As far as who is in the files, for sure there’s going to be people from both parties.
The "Epstein files" are not a single, static document but a vast collection of evidence, court records, and investigative materials gathered over two decades of criminal and civil cases. This compilation occurred incrementally during multiple law enforcement investigations and legal proceedings:
Key Periods of Compilation
Mid-2000s: Law enforcement began compiling records during initial investigations. The Palm Beach police started their investigation in March 2005, and a federal prosecutor drafted an indictment with 60 criminal counts in May 2007.
2010s: More documents were compiled during the 2015 civil defamation lawsuit filed by victim Virginia Giuffre against Ghislaine Maxwell. These documents include depositions and evidence that were later unsealed.
2019 onwards: Federal prosecutors in New York amassed a vast trove of documents for the new sex trafficking charges filed in 2019, which included items confiscated from Epstein's various properties and transcripts of victim and witness interviews. This process continued through Ghislaine Maxwell's trial, which concluded with her conviction in 2021.
The Dems might be more motivated to see the files released, than anytime in their recent history. As a form of distraction. The fact that they didn't get any concessions from the shutdown, and the representatives that crossed the floor just happened to be the six that declared earlier that they are not seeking re-election.
All of that just reeks of corruption.
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The "Epstein files" are not a single, static document but a vast collection of evidence, court records, and investigative materials gathered over two decades of criminal and civil cases. This compilation occurred incrementally during multiple law enforcement investigations and legal proceedings:
Key Periods of Compilation
Mid-2000s: Law enforcement began compiling records during initial investigations. The Palm Beach police started their investigation in March 2005, and a federal prosecutor drafted an indictment with 60 criminal counts in May 2007.
2010s: More documents were compiled during the 2015 civil defamation lawsuit filed by victim Virginia Giuffre against Ghislaine Maxwell. These documents include depositions and evidence that were later unsealed.
2019 onwards: Federal prosecutors in New York amassed a vast trove of documents for the new sex trafficking charges filed in 2019, which included items confiscated from Epstein's various properties and transcripts of victim and witness interviews. This process continued through Ghislaine Maxwell's trial, which concluded with her conviction in 2021.
So, if I understand that correctly, they could’ve released these files in 2021 after her conviction?
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Biden didn’t release the Epstein files because Merrick Garland was actively investigating Epstein/Maxwell co-conspirators all the way up until January 2025. Then Trump shuttered the probe. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeffrey...-jamie-raskin/
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The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York was running an active investigation into Epstein and Maxwell's co-conspirators until January 2025, when prosecutors were directed to transfer the Epstein case files to the Justice Department's headquarters, in what Raskin said was "a sudden and dramatic shift in the posture of the investigation." Since then, "the investigation into co-conspirators has inexplicably ceased," he said, citing information provided to the Judiciary Committee by attorneys who represent Epstein survivors.
In an interview yesterday Alan Dershowitz is claiming Epstein was not a pedophile because he pleaded guilty to one count of having sex for money with a 17-year-and-10-month-old person. "That’s not a pedophile."
And for context, Dersh was one of his lawyers, Acosta, who became a trump cabinet member, was the prosecutor who gave him the sweet deal.
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Dershowitz, who helped Jeffrey Epstein get this sweetheart deal, knows full well that there were almost three dozen dozen girls, ages 13 to 17, who were named in a list that accompanied this plea deal. The final plea PAPERWORK was manipulated to pick just one victim -- and his lawyers made sure they chose the oldest one so that it didn't look so bad. But the girl who came forward first to police was 14 -- and the list of other victims attached to that deal included many young girls.
