Can someone explain to me like I am five how, in a world with declining birth rates where the only way the CPP is sustainable (outside of increasing the contribution amount) is to increase immigration, how a party that is anti-immigration, runs its platform on lowering taxes, and has shown in the form of the heritage fund for the past thirty years or so as well as its refusal to embrace sustainable energy and diversifying the provincial economy that it has no ability to make prudent long term savings/investments, the APP will "would guarantee equal or better benefits than the CPP for Alberta seniors"?
The only rationale I can think of is that they will defund health care enough that the life expectancy is projected to decrease.
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Can someone explain to me like I am five how, in a world with declining birth rates where the only way the CPP is sustainable (outside of increasing the contribution amount) is to increase immigration, how a party that is anti-immigration, runs its platform on lowering taxes, and has shown in the form of the heritage fund for the past thirty years or so as well as its refusal to embrace sustainable energy and diversifying the provincial economy that it has no ability to make prudent long term savings/investments, the APP will "would guarantee equal or better benefits than the CPP for Alberta seniors"?
The only rationale I can think of is that they will defund health care enough that the life expectancy is projected to decrease.
For a large amount of people, if you can convince them their taxes will go down for the next few years, they will ignore basically anything else. That's all they care about. They don't see value in government at all, so as long as it's taking less of a cut, they don't care.
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Can someone explain to me like I am five how, in a world with declining birth rates where the only way the CPP is sustainable (outside of increasing the contribution amount) is to increase immigration, how a party that is anti-immigration, runs its platform on lowering taxes, and has shown in the form of the heritage fund for the past thirty years or so as well as its refusal to embrace sustainable energy and diversifying the provincial economy that it has no ability to make prudent long term savings/investments, the APP will "would guarantee equal or better benefits than the CPP for Alberta seniors"?
The only rationale I can think of is that they will defund health care enough that the life expectancy is projected to decrease.
Because the demographics in Alberta are currently favourable, like they were when Quebec declined to join CPP. They now pay more per capita than other Canadians. But you answered your own question....they have no capability for long-term thinking
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Can someone explain to me like I am five how, in a world with declining birth rates where the only way the CPP is sustainable (outside of increasing the contribution amount) is to increase immigration, how a party that is anti-immigration, runs its platform on lowering taxes, and has shown in the form of the heritage fund for the past thirty years or so as well as its refusal to embrace sustainable energy and diversifying the provincial economy that it has no ability to make prudent long term savings/investments, the APP will "would guarantee equal or better benefits than the CPP for Alberta seniors"?
The only rationale I can think of is that they will defund health care enough that the life expectancy is projected to decrease.
Just wait. They can follow down the conservative playbook to start banning contraceptives and abortions and try to stimulate that population growth locally. Combine that with a broken down education system and a shoestring health care system and you basically are on your way to your own serfdom.
It's the fascist dream. Once people are cool with striping away rights from people (teachers, trans kids, etc) then they won't even blink an eye when you take away the rights of women (aka. breeding machines).
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Not sure if this was posted here or elsewhere - NDP's new campaign-style video that came out yesterday:
Excellent to see Nenshi start the campaigning-ish stuff early - begin to get the right message out to Albertans and start to try and build momentum now, with some actual teeth in the message. Fun fact - the vid, too, was created by the Fight Agency - the agency down south responsible for the successful campaign of Zohran Mamdani (CBC article on this here)
Hoping Nenshi and the NDP bring the fight of their lives to the UCP here over the next 1.5 years!
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Excellent to see Nenshi start the campaigning-ish stuff early - begin to get the right message out to Albertans and start to try and build momentum now, with some actual teeth in the message. Fun fact - the vid, too, was created by the Fight Agency - the agency down south responsible for the successful campaign of Zohran Mamdani (CBC article on this here)
Hoping Nenshi and the NDP bring the fight of their lives to the UCP here over the next 1.5 years!
We've heard so much this year about boycotting US businesses and products because of the tariff fight and 51st state stuff yet the NDP are happily working with a US company for PR and campaign advertising? That makes a lot of sense.
We've heard so much this year about boycotting US businesses and products because of the tariff fight and 51st state stuff yet the NDP are happily working with a US company for PR and campaign advertising? That makes a lot of sense.
It does make sense in a few ways, if you aren't dim.
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We've heard so much this year about boycotting US businesses and products because of the tariff fight and 51st state stuff yet the NDP are happily working with a US company for PR and campaign advertising? That makes a lot of sense.
Has that been the messaging of the ANDP? or are you conflating people you don't like on the internet with a political party?
We've heard so much this year about boycotting US businesses and products because of the tariff fight and 51st state stuff yet the NDP are happily working with a US company for PR and campaign advertising? That makes a lot of sense.
I hear this, but they're trying to win an upcoming election. They literally need to 'go big or go home' to win this.
Does it pain you, too, to know that an American firm is the lead designer on our new Flames arena? They're still very much on the project and getting paid.
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Has that been the messaging of the ANDP? or are you conflating people you don't like on the internet with a political party?
Nenshi has talked previously about how "this is the largest threat that we have seen as Canadian, existential threat to our economy and our way of life." In response to this threat, Nenshi has said that there is a need "to be ready for retaliatory measures ... but most important, do so in conjunction with the other Premiers and the Prime Minister and part of Team Canada." The Team Canada approach thus far has had a large component, backed by political leaders across the country, to boycott American goods and services.
I hear this, but they're trying to win an upcoming election. They literally need to 'go big or go home' to win this.
Does it pain you, too, to know that an American firm is the lead designer on our new Flames arena? They're still very much on the project and getting paid.
The Flames arena contracts and due diligence all happened well before Canada entered into an "existential crisis." Sure, going forward I would hope that significant effort is made to do business within Canada and I would hope that our governments at all levels focus on Canadian businesses (they certainly have talked a lot about shifting around service contracts and such this year.)
Nenshi has talked previously about how "this is the largest threat that we have seen as Canadian, existential threat to our economy and our way of life." In response to this threat, Nenshi has said that there is a need "to be ready for retaliatory measures ... but most important, do so in conjunction with the other Premiers and the Prime Minister and part of Team Canada." The Team Canada approach thus far has had a large component, backed by political leaders across the country, to boycott American goods and services.
I think the question would be: what is the Canadian alternative?
Fight Agency managed an "impossible" task in helping Mamdami get elected and with how the left parties have been struggling in Canada it makes sense to look for outside help from the biggest success story in North America.
Also, supporting Fight Agency grow could help Canada if they can support more Mamdani-type politicians get elected throughout the US, especially at the Federal level. That could become a win-win-win (Help Nenshi save Alberta, help Fight Agency grow, help America stop being terrible).
The Flames arena contracts and due diligence all happened well before Canada entered into an "existential crisis." Sure, going forward I would hope that significant effort is made to do business within Canada and I would hope that our governments at all levels focus on Canadian businesses (they certainly have talked a lot about shifting around service contracts and such this year.)
The arena contracts were also signed during Trump's first term, which was also highlighted by tariffs on Canada. That would have also been a good time to virtue signal and not work with American companies if we were truly on 'Team Canada' here. That said, specialists in that line of work are needed (stadia design), and the list of proven ones is even smaller. Business goes on.
Are there proven and effective campaign companies in Canada that the NDP should have gone with instead? I'm totally open-minded to hearing if there are.
The arena contracts were also signed during Trump's first term, which was also highlighted by tariffs on Canada. That would have also been a good time to virtue signal and not work with American companies if we were truly on 'Team Canada' here. That said, specialists in that line of work are needed (stadia design), and the list of proven ones is even smaller. Business goes on.
Are there proven and effective campaign companies in Canada that the NDP should have gone with instead? I'm totally open-minded to hearing if there are.
I'm not in that space but I'd certainly say there likely isn't a shortage of proven and effective political PR firms and/or consultants in Canada that would be less impactful than Fight Agency.
I'm not in that space but I'd certainly say there likely isn't a shortage of proven and effective political PR firms and/or consultants in Canada that would be less impactful than Fight Agency.
Most of those Canadian political PR firms are likely aligned with the Liberals or Conservatives. I have my doubts there is a long list of NDP-friendly PR firms.
He's hired an agency who are working to help progressive anti-establishment candidates win elections. They are working against the current US administration and those who work with them. Think of this like funding the Rebel Alliance. It's working for our interests. Well, those of us who recognize MAGA as an actual problem, and not a team to cheer for.
I don't recall you being upset about Smith going to promote and hang out with all the losers down south, but I guess maybe you are their target market.
Anyway, no hypocrisy to be found in this, just shallow shallow thoughts.
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He's hired an agency who are working to help progressive anti-establishment candidates win elections. They are working against the current US administration and those who work with them. Think of this like funding the Rebel Alliance. It's working for our interests. Well, those of us who recognize MAGA as an actual problem, and not a team to cheer for.
I don't recall you being upset about Smith going to promote and hang out with all the losers down south, but I guess maybe you are their target market.
Anyway, no hypocrisy to be found in this, just shallow shallow thoughts.
You were pretty upset about it and have lobbed around the term traitor quite a bit. But Nenshi and the NDP doing business with a new US start up is pretty fine.
I'm not in that space but I'd certainly say there likely isn't a shortage of proven and effective political PR firms and/or consultants in Canada that would be less impactful than Fight Agency.
Don't take this as pessimism, but unless you have solid proof of such a claim, I don't really hold much weight to that statement.
While there's great firms in Canada, there are, literally, thousands more / larger PR, communications, digital, branding and design firms down south that specialize in exactly this type of work. It is possible the ANDP looked at Canadian options and decided that their best chances lied with the service offerings and portfolio of Fight Agency.
While it's preferable they go Canadian of course, I seriously doubt they did this nefarious purposes; they likely did it for business purposes and picked the most qualified proponent on the market.
You were pretty upset about it and have lobbed around the term traitor quite a bit. But Nenshi and the NDP doing business with a new US start up is pretty fine.
For any of you who still want to try and have this conversation, at least be properly equipped first.
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