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Old 11-10-2025, 11:03 AM   #15781
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So far he's right, he's been able to do pretty much what he wants.
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Old 11-10-2025, 11:08 AM   #15782
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Biden opened that can of worms remember?
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Trump promised retribution against people like Biden and Adam Schiff, where Adam Schiff was doing his job investigating Trump’s sedition and criminal activity. Pardoning people like Schiff was to protect them from the bs sh1t revenge and retribution tour Trump was promising. Trump is pardoning actual criminals, people who have committed serious crimes, and fake pardoning the group involved in his treasonous activities. You gotta be dumber than a bag of dog sh1t to claim there’s an equivalence here or that Biden started it.
Perfect demonstration of the entire intent of what happened. He was VERY vocal about his plans, basically forced Biden’s hand (because he would have to be a complete fool to not take the threat seriously). But the goal was to distract against years of doing the same thing himself, with a scape goat for the act.
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Old 11-10-2025, 01:17 PM   #15783
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If they didn't do anything wrong, what are they being pardoned for?

Every action is an admission of guilt.
Not great reasoning, especially in judicial system where one side has captured the judiciary at the highest level, flaunting the law, and then basically bullies the other side into taking legal action against them as an accuse for trumping up phony charges against their opponents.

In that world, anyones actions can be a reaction to any of those things, and likely is before being an admission of guilt.

I'd say at worst, this most likely somewhere between them not caring about laws, and taunting the other side into taking similar action to build future justification for flaunting the laws more. I would hardly call this an explicit admission of guilt (I really think many of them are too stupid to know they did something wrong.)
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Old 11-10-2025, 02:14 PM   #15784
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Biden opened that can of worms remember?
a. there's a world of difference and
b. you are wrong anyway. Trump pardoned a ton of people in his first term, including Steve Bannon, Elliott Broidy, Al Pirro (one hour before Biden was sworn in), Duke Cunningham, etc
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Old 11-10-2025, 02:35 PM   #15785
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LOL. So while Trump is blowing up supposed drug trafficking ships in South America, he pardoned a drug trafficker named Jonathan Braun in 2021 on his way out of office, and now that same criminal is going to be sentenced today for sexual assault.
Looks like he just got a 27 month sentence.
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Old 11-10-2025, 03:47 PM   #15786
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I'm also really enjoying the push toward 50-year mortgages and 15-year car loans. It will be catastrophic for a financially illiterate population, and inflation will become a significant problem.
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Old 11-10-2025, 04:00 PM   #15787
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I can't believe that anyone would want a 50 year mortgage in a country where the average life expectancy is the mid 70s. If people mostly look towards buying a house in their late 20s (optimistically) or early 30s you would be paying off a mortgage until the day where you get put into a box. I know that theoretically the value of the property would increase over time but that seems like an absolutely bleak existence where they are chained to a desk for health insurance and a house and no chance for a meaningful retirement.
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Old 11-10-2025, 04:04 PM   #15788
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Longer mortgages should mean smaller monthly payments and that’s all some people care about. If you stretch out your house payment and your car payment you might have enough left for a boat payment.
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Longer mortgages should mean smaller monthly payments and that’s all some people care about. If you stretch out your house payment and your car payment you might have enough left for a boat payment.
It would make it a smaller payment but the amount you would be paying would be vastly higher - plus the interest rate would be higher according to the sources I have read which resulted in the difference being relatively minimal with a much larger cost on the back end.

A country built on debt.
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Debt is how trump ran his businesses...its his forte.

He went bankrupt a lot though, so theres that.
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Old 11-10-2025, 05:39 PM   #15791
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Mortgage interest is tax deductible in the US, so it is not egregious to carry a large mortgage for 50 years as long as you can afford it.
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Old 11-10-2025, 05:40 PM   #15792
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Mortgage interest is tax deductible in the US, so it is not egregious to carry a large mortgage for 50 years as long as you can afford it.
Except all that does is help drive up prices since the market has that fact priced into it. Doesn’t make it more palatable.
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Old 11-10-2025, 05:44 PM   #15793
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Mortgage interest is tax deductible in the US, so it is not egregious to carry a large mortgage for 50 years as long as you can afford it.
It hasn't really been tax deductible since Trump's last term tax cuts. Putting a low cap on SALT deductions and raising the basic exemption means that hardly anyone is itemizing any more.
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Trump-appointed U.S. Attorney Jason Reding Quiñones called the impromptu meeting of the largest section in the criminal division — major crimes — a unit that includes two to three dozen career prosecutors. The source said it is unusual for an office’s top prosecutor to convene such a gathering.

“Everyone is on pins and needles,” the source told MSNBC, referring to prosecutors who fear being asked by the U.S. Attorney Reding Quiñones, or his leadership team, to work on a case that President Donald Trump has said should lead to the arrests of an expansive list of individuals, including former President Barack Obama and former CIA Director John Brennan.

The Justice Department approved at least 30 subpoenas on Friday, including for Brennan and former FBI officials Peter Strzok and Lisa Page.

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/news/us-...mee-rcna243100



President Donald Trump on Monday asked the US Supreme Court to review the $5 million civil case that found he sexually abused and defamed magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll.

Last year, a federal appeals court affirmed the jury’s#verdict and $5 million judgment#against Trump, ruling the trial judge did not make errors that would warrant a new trial. In June, Trump#lost an effort#to have the appeal reviewed by the full bench of judges.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/10/polit...id=android_app

Using the DOJ to attack his enemies...and his SC to evade his guilty verdict for sexual assault.
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Old 11-10-2025, 06:25 PM   #15795
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Mortgage interest is tax deductible in the US, so it is not egregious to carry a large mortgage for 50 years as long as you can afford it.
INGRAHAM: Is a 50 year mortgage really a good idea?
TRUMP: It's not even a big deal. You go from 40 to 50 years. All it means is you pay less per month

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And for the numbers of 50 vs 30

https://bsky.app/profile/davejorgens.../3m5cu57velc25
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Old 11-10-2025, 06:51 PM   #15796
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Mortgage interest is tax deductible in the US, so it is not egregious to carry a large mortgage for 50 years as long as you can afford it.
It isn’t, really. I mean, technically it’s deductible, but there are very few situations where someone would actually want to deduct their mortgage interest because doing so means losing the far more valuable standard deduction.
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Nom, nom, nom!!

Its 20 minutes long but its worth it. Many sandwich puns.
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Old 11-10-2025, 08:27 PM   #15799
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It isn’t, really. I mean, technically it’s deductible, but there are very few situations where someone would actually want to deduct their mortgage interest because doing so means losing the far more valuable standard deduction.
I am curious to start looking at 2025 taxes. With the SALT cap jumping from 10k to 40k, a lot of people are going to itemize and mortgage interest again will be a decent deduction.

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Old 11-10-2025, 08:49 PM   #15800
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The median home sale price was $410,800, according to data from the St. Louis Fed most recently updated in July for the second quarter of 2025. The average down payment on a home in 2025 was 19%, according to a report released by the National Association of Realtors in November, although this average was considerably lower at 10% for first-time home buyers. The median age of first-time home buyers also rose to 40 years old, according to the group.

According to data from Freddie Mac, the average interest rate for a 30-year mortgage for the last week, ending on Nov. 6, was 6.22%, compared to an average rate of 5.5% for a 15-year mortgage. It’s unclear how high an interest rate for a 50-year loan would be set, but even if rates were kept the same as those of a 30-year mortgage, buyers would only be paying slightly less each month. Using the median home price, the 6.22% mortgage rate, and a 10% down payment, the monthly payment for a 50-year mortgage at the same rate would be $2,006.60. The buyer would make 600 monthly payments for a total of over $1.2 million, including more than $834,000 in interest. A 30-year mortgage with those same terms would have a slightly higher monthly payment—$2,269.22, or a difference of $262.62. However, the buyer would only pay $447,199.47 in interest over the course of the 30-year loan, for a total of $816,919.47. Forbes calculated these totals using online tools provided by Fannie Mae, and they do not include other payments like taxes and insurance.
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