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					Originally Posted by  Jay Random
					 
				 
				Unless you're willing to absolutely give away good players. I'm sure plenty of teams would take Kadri or Andersson right now for future considerations or even a 7th-round pick. Does the tank crowd approve? 
			
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Even then I doubt it 
 
Flames I doubt would include any cap within any deal for a lengthy contract such as Kadri
 
A player like that won't be moved until the deadline if a trade occurs
 
A trade with Kadri would goto a contender 
 
Contenders can't make that type of cap space
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 10:34 AM
			
			
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				What is Zary showing that suggests he’s a top 6? 
			
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He's only three points back from team lead in points!!!!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-24-2025, 10:41 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  ForeverFlameFan
					 
				 
				This doesn't make any sense. Waiting for what? They all act like they're going to be able to fleece Conroy. The first one with a legitimate offer is going to get him. This has always been the case, as he's been on the market for quite some time now. 
			
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These media guys are just relaying what front offices are saying to each other inside the NHL. I think everyone knows it’s bull####. The people saying it don’t believe it. The people hearing it know it’s nonsense. Media gotta write something. 
 
On the other hand, updates from our insiders are almost 100% what you’d expect, common sense. No panic, for sale sign is out, Conroy’s price has not been met. 
 
We know that when it is met, he’ll do a last call around the league like he always does. 
 
I’m not worried about the process. I am worried about weak demand and weak offers. I am not convinced that we’ll get better offers closer to TDL but I guess we’ll have to find out.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 10:42 AM
			
			
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			Yesterday on St. Louis Blues radio, they had a segment on the Blues thin right-side D, and said Ras should be the Blues top target if they can afford it but expect the cost to be high.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 10:45 AM
			
			
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				Yesterday on St. Louis Blues radio, they had a segment on the Blues thin right-side D, and said Ras should be the Blues top target if they can afford it but expect the cost to be high. 
			
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Wellity wellity wellity.  
That's an interesting team that hasn't been talked about before, but have a lot of prospects that would be interesting. Not sure which of these guys would be on the table but Dvorsky, Carbonneau, Stennberg, Jiricek, Lindstein would all be VERY enticing.
 
I would also be happy with a 2027 1st as the Blues are a team that could take a sudden and surprising step back.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 10:48 AM
			
			
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				Even then I doubt it  
 
Flames I doubt would include any cap within any deal for a lengthy contract such as Kadri 
 
A player like that won't be moved until the deadline if a trade occurs 
 
A trade with Kadri would goto a contender  
 
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There are a couple of teams that could make a deal.
 
Carolina - they have the cap space, are a contender, and have some contracts the Flames could take back that fit our age profile. (Kotkaniemi)
 
Colorado - $3.5M cap space, send back a player like Ross Colton and the cap works. 
 
Montreal - they have $3.9M cap space right now, are off to a great start, could easily clear enough cap to make it work by including Kirby Dach in the trade return (he's on their 4th line right now)
 
Right now I wouldn't be surprised if Montreal makes the most sense, especially if Kadri wants to stay in Canada. 
 
Kadri for Dach + Hage and we can go on our merry way lol (Hage isn't getting traded with the start he's having)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:04 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Canada 02
					 
				 
				Yesterday on St. Louis Blues radio, they had a segment on the Blues thin right-side D, and said Ras should be the Blues top target if they can afford it but expect the cost to be high. 
			
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Kind of strange. Not the assessment I would have made for them.
 
They have Parayko, Fowler, Mailloux and Jiricek. I guess Parayko and Fowler are starting to get up there, Mailloux is still unproven and Jiricek has a ways to develop yet.
 
I wouldn't of pegged it as a huge position of need though.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:13 AM
			
			
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				I'm really curious when it comes to Kadri's value in a trade.  
 
He is still a great player, has some bite and obviously cares. Would it be possible to perceive that his value is similar to that of Brock Nelson when he was moved last season ?  
 
Essentially bringing back two firsts (would be equivalent to late firsts) would be a great addition for the team moving forward. 
			
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I would love to get a comparable return to what Nelson got, based around a good center prospect + 1st
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:17 AM
			
			
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				There are a couple of teams that could make a deal. 
 
Carolina - they have the cap space, are a contender, and have some contracts the Flames could take back that fit our age profile. (Kotkaniemi) 
 
Colorado - $3.5M cap space, send back a player like Ross Colton and the cap works.  
 
Montreal - they have $3.9M cap space right now, are off to a great start, could easily clear enough cap to make it work by including Kirby Dach in the trade return (he's on their 4th line right now) 
 
Right now I wouldn't be surprised if Montreal makes the most sense, especially if Kadri wants to stay in Canada.  
 
Kadri for Dach + Hage and we can go on our merry way lol (Hage isn't getting traded with the start he's having) 
			
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That would be an amazing trade, but yeah I can't see them moving Hage. Maybe Beck+1st+Dach?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:19 AM
			
			
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				I would love to get a comparable return to what Nelson got, based around a good center prospect + 1st 
			
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Ugh I wish that we’d moved him last year to Colorado
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:21 AM
			
			
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			Dach+1st+2nd would be a solid return.  
 
I know it is unlikely they can do it all this year but getting 2 more 1st this year and a couple of extra seconds would have Conroy with crazy amounts of flexibility and options going into the draft.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:22 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  SuperMatt18
					 
				 
				There are a couple of teams that could make a deal. 
 
Carolina - they have the cap space, are a contender, and have some contracts the Flames could take back that fit our age profile. (Kotkaniemi) 
 
Colorado - $3.5M cap space, send back a player like Ross Colton and the cap works.  
 
Montreal - they have $3.9M cap space right now, are off to a great start, could easily clear enough cap to make it work by including Kirby Dach in the trade return (he's on their 4th line right now) 
 
Right now I wouldn't be surprised if Montreal makes the most sense, especially if Kadri wants to stay in Canada.  
 
Kadri for Dach + Hage and we can go on our merry way lol (Hage isn't getting traded with the start he's having) 
			
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Habs look brutal right now trading the pick that turned into Frank Nazar for Dach. See what happens with Nazar but he already looks like he will be a better NHL player than Dach.
 
Getting Dach would just be a space filler, he is a modern day Jason Wiemer, guy who was picked high who never turned out.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:23 AM
			
			
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			I dont think we want Dach. 
He's never played a full season due to injury. 
He's not progressed in the slightest since being traded to MTL. 
38pt career high. 
 
He had some luxury to him previously, he's young yes but far too many injuries in such a short career. 
I don't see him coming in and becoming a #1 center in CGY.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:24 AM
			
			
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			Dach would just be a cap dump for them at this point. 
 
No chance Montreal is qualifying him IMO
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:25 AM
			
			
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				Dach+1st+2nd would be a solid return.  
 
I know it is unlikely they can do it all this year but getting 2 more 1st this year and a couple of extra seconds would have Conroy with crazy amounts of flexibility and options going into the draft. 
			
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Dach is rubbish.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:30 AM
			
			
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				Dach is rubbish. 
			
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Just evening out contracts... a 1st and 2nd for Kadri is an overpay by MTL, take on Dach to even it out.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-24-2025, 11:32 AM
			
			
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				Dach is rubbish. 
			
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I dont really disagree but its to make the cap work. Hes also still relative young and a RS center, so it doesn't hurt to try it out.
 
  The other pieces are the main pieces of value.
 
I'd also interested in Guhle.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:33 AM
			
			
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				I dont think we want Dach. 
He's never played a full season due to injury. 
He's not progressed in the slightest since being traded to MTL. 
38pt career high. 
 
He had some luxury to him previously, he's young yes but far too many injuries in such a short career. 
I don't see him coming in and becoming a #1 center in CGY. 
			
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He’s not likely to bring value, but over the 2-3 years Calgary will need bodies if they move out vets, and Dach is an NHL body at this point.  If the Flames were to obtain a good prospect, + a first, Dach as a sweetener could buy them a bit of time for young guys to properly develop.  Unless he is known to be a personal distraction, he could be of some use in the short term, though I agree with you that’s he’s not a piece you acquire to be part of the future.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:34 AM
			
			
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				Dach is rubbish. 
			
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A 1st+2nd for a 35 year old making $7M this year and 3 more after we can’t expect to get a massive return. 
 
Edit: if it is confirmed all Kadri can do now is submit a 13 team list then maybe they can get more but with a NMC this is likely the best they could do
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-24-2025, 11:36 AM
			
			
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				Dach is rubbish. 
			
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Tough to hear, but probably true.  Even rubbish can have a purpose under the proper circumstances.  You could beat a man to death with a broken toilet seat if your situation demanded such actions.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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