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				The problem with the Stampede Grounds is that Macleod Trail and the railway tracks cut it off from the rest of downtown. Even if the destinations there and in the East Village are appealing, getting there is gross and pedestrian-unfriendly. 
			
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Have you just not been there in years?
 
Since they fixed up the 17th ave crossing it’s extremely easy and not frightening or yucky. If I’m downtown proper I’ll take the train down the 2-3 stops (I usually park more central downtown and do this). After the game or whatever event I’ll then walk down 17th and hit a bar or a restaurant. And judging by the crowds in both situations, there are hundreds if not thousands of people who do exactly this or one of the two, including women and families with children (though not the bar part!) who don’t seem grossed out by it.
 
Heavily recommend going car free next time. It’s not as scary and difficult as you think it is, I bet you’ll be quite surprised and it should only get better with the improvements.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-22-2025, 06:11 PM
			
			
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				I could swear they just finished building an at-grade vehicle and pedestrian crossing from 17th Ave SW to the Stampede Grounds: 
 
			
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I don't know how anybody can look at that and claim it's pedestrian friendly. That photo is 80% road, rail, and parking.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-22-2025, 06:35 PM
			
			
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				I don't know how anybody can look at that and claim it's pedestrian friendly. That photo is 80% road, rail, and parking. 
			
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Experiencing it at ground level as a pedestrian helps. It’s not ideal (we’re talking about Macleod Trail, after all), but is a vast improvement on what was there before. Much better. And those parking lots will soon be replaced by buildings.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-22-2025, 06:41 PM
			
			
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				There are gonna be cars in the concourse. 
			
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Yes I think you can take that to the bank.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-22-2025, 06:44 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  CliffFletcher
					 
				 
				The problem with the Stampede Grounds is that Macleod Trail and the railway tracks cut it off from the rest of downtown. Even if the destinations there and in the East Village are appealing, getting there is gross and pedestrian-unfriendly. 
			
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Dude, it's been a while now.  
 https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...enue-extension
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-22-2025, 06:59 PM
			
			
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				I don't know how anybody can look at that and claim it's pedestrian friendly. That photo is 80% road, rail, and parking. 
			
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You see that big grey swatch to the right of the 17th Avenue extension? That's ALL for pedestrians, and it leads right to that big-ass crosswalk across Macleod Trail. The rail you're complaining about? That's the LRT, without which very few pedestrians would be able to get access to the Stampede grounds.
 
Funny sort of complaint.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-22-2025, 07:02 PM
			
			
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			10-22-2025, 07:08 PM
			
			
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			I don't understand why you can't turn right from that exit onto mcleod trail northbound seems like a huge miss
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-22-2025, 07:17 PM
			
			
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				I don't understand why you can't turn right from that exit onto mcleod trail northbound seems like a huge miss 
			
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Being able to turn right would completely screw up the flow of traffic from that lane.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-22-2025, 09:12 PM
			
			
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			10-23-2025, 01:40 AM
			
			
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			Not familiar with when or how they decided to extend 17th through the Stampede grounds but could they not have or are they planning to elevate or bury the LRT tracks at that point? Not feasible or too expensive?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-23-2025, 08:18 AM
			
			
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			The province wants to elevate the new green line through downtown to save money. There's absolutely no budget (normal reason) to bury this established station.  LRT systems works totally fine at grade as long as the pedestrian abd traffic infrastructure surrounding it is appropriate.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-23-2025, 11:01 AM
			
			
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				And there's another underpass under the CPR line being built as part of the arena project, too. 
			
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that the GoA funding component, right?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-23-2025, 12:12 PM
			
			
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			Weird that there will be no plus 15 bridges over Macleod Trail to SP from the new hotels.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-23-2025, 12:15 PM
			
			
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				Weird that there will be no plus 15 bridges over Macleod Trail to SP from the new hotels. 
			
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Most people can walk a few hundred meters outdoors.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-23-2025, 01:28 PM
			
			
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				Most people can walk a few hundred meters outdoors. 
			
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And I suspect the hotel owners aren't going to want a bunch of drunk hockey fans using their hotels as a shortcut after games.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-23-2025, 02:07 PM
			
			
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			There's also a push to get more street life in that area. And plus-15s are expensive.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			10-23-2025, 02:27 PM
			
			
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				And I suspect the hotel owners aren't going to want a bunch of drunk hockey fans using their hotels as a shortcut after games. 
			
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Not unless they can draw in some to the hotel bar for $25 cocktails.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			10-23-2025, 02:33 PM
			
			
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				Not unless they can draw in some to the hotel bar for $25 cocktails. 
			
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Guys who are already blitzed, wearing hockey jerseys, and either cheering or complaining about the game at the top of their lungs, don't really fit in well to the kind of hotel bar that is swanky enough to charge $25 for a cocktail.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			10-23-2025, 02:51 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Jay Random
					 
				 
				Guys who are already blitzed, wearing hockey jerseys, and either cheering or complaining about the game at the top of their lungs, don't really fit in well to the kind of hotel bar that is swanky enough to charge $25 for a cocktail. 
			
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Hate to break it to you but $25 for a cocktail is no longer an indication of somewhere "swanky"
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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