[Signing] McDavid (2 yrs, $12.5mil AAV) and Walman ($7mi x7) sign extensions with Oilers

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Not the plan, no. But when your rival is staring down cup or bust for 3 more seasons it's never a good feeling, especially when our window is nowhere on the horizon.

Have to have faith in their goaltending and their defence.

[paley01]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

He has to be the dumbest superstar player in the history of the NHL. He really cares so much about his image and wanting to win that he's willing to cost himself and his family millions in career earnings. I guarantee when he's retired he will regret missing out on at least $8 million. Simply foolish as the Oilers have squandered his career yet he feels somehow that he owes them something.

Only thing redeeming is that this means he's gone at the expiry.

He is going to end his career with more money than what he and his family know what to do with. There are diminishing returns to making more millions. If you already have more millions than you need to live the lifestyle you want, why prioritize making more millions rather than something that will likely bring you more happiness and fulfillment in life (i.e., leading your team to a Stanley Cup; something he has probably dreamed about since he was a little boy)?

It actually surprises me that more superstars who have already made huge money in their career don't sacrifice their paycheck to increase their odds of winning a cup. I think that most don't do it because their egos get in the way: if so-and-so makes X, and I am better than X, then there is no way that I can take less money than X. This is actually a huge flex on McDavid's part: I am so much better than everyone else, and everyone else knows it, that I don't need to prove it with my salary!

And another thing: If we are counting the intangibles like leadership when evaluating a player, and not solely their on ice skills, then we should also count things like this. Taking less than you could get on the open marker has a bigger impact on probability of team success than if David was even a slightly better player on the ice.

Writing all of this praise for an Oiler's player made me throw up in my mouth a little.

[This post is terrible]

McDavid and Matthews UFA in the same year, potentially an NBA style super team setup

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Damn, he must've read my post last night.

Another two wasted years!

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by indes

Maybe I'm just optimistic but this could be the year it finally comes crumbling down for them. They've lost 2 of their top 6 playoff scorers, their best defensive Dman is getting pretty long in the tooth, the never addressed goaltending and their stars are a year older. Their team has far less depth upfront than it did last year and Walman on the back end is not going to compensate for that.

Honestly to christ this team was one dumb ass play by a Kings D man from them being swept in round 1. They went on lucky runs 2 years in a row. They are not the 2nd best team in the league. And as you said they lost key players, got 1 year older, and have the karma of team of warm criminals. I'd be hardly shocked at all if they miss the playoffs. They are a garbage team that caught lightening in a bottle.

[The Yen Man]

Maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part, but I feel like Oilers used all their hockey luck even getting to the finals 2 years in a row. I'm settling in for a few 1st round exits now :-).

[Braden]

From cap dump to 7x7 in 15 months for Walman

[bubbsy]

Damn, everything about this sucks.

Credit to mcdavid for playing this out differently than expected and taking a massive discount.

Might be the first time in a negotiation where the club states a number and the player’s rebuttal was (far) less.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Honestly to christ this team was one dumb ass play by a Kings D man from them being swept in round 1. They went on lucky runs 2 years in a row. They are not the 2nd best team in the league. And as you said they lost key players, got 1 year older, and have the karma of team of warm criminals. I'd be hardly shocked at all if they miss the playoffs. They are a garbage team that caught lightening in a bottle.

Yup! Best player and contract in the league, but they are worse right now then they were last season.

[squiggs96]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I said he might sign a two year deal if Drai can convince him to try and win a Cup in Edmonton on a short window, multiple times. It's just delaying his signing in Toronto by a couple years.

You also said this:

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I stand by that 100%. If I am wrong you can all shame me until the cows come home and I will honour Paulie and I's bet. He has every intention on signing with the Leafs after this deal.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

He is not staying. He will be a Leaf after this deal..

Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ

Is McDavid going to re-up in Edmonton?

Originally Posted by dissentowner

No. Toronto. 100%

Originally Posted by dissentowner

These other teams can think it's on all they want, everything is tracking exactly how I told everyone it would. He is going to Toronto.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

These other teams can think it's on all they want, everything is tracking exactly how I told everyone it would. He is going to Toronto.

Originally Posted by dissentowner

I have for over a year. So has he. What are you going to say when I am right?

McDavid might end up in Toronto. He might play his entire career in Edmonton. He might go to another team after this contract. I have absolutely no idea. It's tough to predict what another human will do, which is why several posters suggested using less than absolute language, and not to name call people with opposing views. Hopefully a lesson has been learned.

[The Yen Man]

Between his first 8 year extension (leaving $3M per year) and this contract (leaving $7M per year) on the table, guy gave Katz like a $38M discount. Katz probably built McDavid's house for free for him, and gave him a few condo units in his tower.

[Lewis_D]

For those of you who thinks there's something shady going on under the table - "follow the money, this thing goes all the way to the top!"

https://twitter.com/user/status/1975251023062253892

[Winsor_Pilates]

I'm already so tired of watching the playoffs in anxiety until Edmonton is out.
Absolutely sucks that's going to happen for 3 more years.

Even if they don't get over the line; it's tiring to watch year after year.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Imagine having this much faith in that loser front office to leave money on the table. Hopefully giving the 50/50 scammers a cap break backfires as they bungle it with more bad moves and they fail to live up to their end.

The good thing is there are still no prospects of note (no the two they hype up aren't that), and every one is now into their decline years.

[dino7c]

McDavids not gonna get the cup or the money now

Any money left on the table has gone to raises for average players who are now overpaid

[GullFoss]

I gotta say, I respect this so much. Takes a huge hometown discount to improve his chances to win it all and bring a Canadian city it's first cup since 1993. And the Olympics are coming up too.

This is what leadership looks like.

Mad respect. Pure class.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by gullfoss

i gotta say, i respect this so much. Takes a huge hometown discount to improve his chances to win it all and bring a canadian city it's first cup since 1993. And the olympics are coming up too.

This is what leadership looks like.

Mad respect. Pure class.

lol.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Their defense is overpaid, but it's not bad. Bouchard, Ekholm, Nurse, Walman is a respectable top 4. Overpaid by a mile, but talent is fine.

They are bad at the main job of defencemen, aside from Ekholm. Combine that with subpar goaltending and you get a typical Oilers team.

[Monahammer]

Rough day to be a flames fan, again.

extra salt in the wound is the coach playing our real hope of ascent from the depths with absolute pylons on the third pair or aiming him to munch popcorn.

[GullFoss]

They're going to be cup favorites next year and the year after. And it's not going to be particularly close. I hope they don't win, but the facts are what they are.