Edmonton is No Good XII: "I Dunno.. it's Just Not Good."

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Oilers led McDavid to the cup final, it's on him to take them to the top.

Wrong thread bud.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Im surprised the media is so tame. Coming into campwithout a contract is the black mark no?

Their media and fans have been conditioned to believe that McDavid and Draisaitl staying Oilers forever was a mere formality. Draisaitl was happy to take a big chunk of upfront money to stay but he has no attachment to other parts of North America like McDavid who is a Toronto boy.

[CroFlames]

The fact that there is no contract means he's not signing.

Look at it this way. Is there any contract the Oilers would say no to? Of course not. They would agree to anything McDavid asks for.

Why hasn't McDavid asked for his ideal contract then? Because he has no intention of extending there, otherwise it would have been done already.

This isn't a scenario of back-and-forth negotiation between club and player. This is a scenario of a club phoning the player, and him not picking up the phone.

I think the conversation will start to shift when the season starts to trade or walk scenarios.

[SuperMatt18]

I think he might sign, but think he's also in no rush to sign, because he knows it's not going to be an 8 year deal, so no real pressure.

He can sign a 3 year deal now with the Oilers, or a 3 year deal after the season ends with the Oilers, or he can go to UFA.

But really there is no pressure point to sign right away because I don't think he's asking for 8 years either way, and he likely wants to see how the team performs.

He will be 29 at the expiry of this contract - a 3 year deal would make him 32 at the expiry of that deal, and he will sign a 6 or 7 year deal then (based on the now CBA) that would take him to near his retirement at 39.

I do think he's genuine in his statement he wants to win in Edmonton, but I think he's smart enough to realize that even though they made the finals the last two years they were very close to losing to Vancouver in round 2 in 2024 and LA in round 1 in 2025. If that team takes a big step back this year and loses in round 1 I think that changes a lot for him in terms of re-signing.

[CaptainCrunch]

It would be hilarious if he came back with a 1 years win this year max salary contract demand for the Oilers or even a 2 year deal to get him through this years playoffs.


If the Oilers regress this year, and I think they will, all hell will explode in orgasmic goodness.

[Reggie Dunlop]

[topfiverecords]

It's going to be so sweet watching the Leafs lose game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals with McDavid on the team.

[Lewis_D]

I recall during that recent Marner interview he said something about having garbage thrown on his front yard after a playoff loss?

McDavid should be able to adapt to that pretty easy if he joins the Leafs, that's just an every day occurrence for everyone in Edmonton to wake up to. Usually with an old beat up Camaro to boot.

[jonesy]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

sir, there is still a blight on his pants.

[ken0042]

^^ We all know Oil stains are the hardest to get rid of.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It's going to be so sweet watching the Leafs lose game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals with McDavid on the team.

Gunning for Corey Perry's record?

[Manhattanboy]

The Staples-Stauffer etc paranoia is quite funny.

Fluff article ranting against Toronto media but enjoyed the shout out to the rumours coming out of Calgary.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...-stauffer-rant

[FanIn80]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

The fact that there is no contract means he's not signing.

Look at it this way. Is there any contract the Oilers would say no to? Of course not. They would agree to anything McDavid asks for.

Why hasn't McDavid asked for his ideal contract then? Because he has no intention of extending there, otherwise it would have been done already.

This isn't a scenario of back-and-forth negotiation between club and player. This is a scenario of a club phoning the player, and him not picking up the phone.

I think the conversation will start to shift when the season starts to trade or walk scenarios.

As far as McDavid is concerned, he's not the UFA. The 32 teams are the UFAs, and he just has to pick which one he wants to send his pre-written contract to for them to sign.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

The Staples-Stauffer etc paranoia is quite funny.

Fluff article ranting against Toronto media but enjoyed the shout out to the rumours coming out of Calgary.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...-stauffer-rant

They're worried.

[Press Level]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

It's going to be so sweet watching the Leafs lose game 7 of the Stanley Cup finals with McDavid on the team.

It's the Leafs, it will be game 7 of the second round (also known as a Toronto Stanley Cup Final).

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

Wrong thread bud.

It's a joke. Clearly McDavid did all the heavy lifting and the rest of the #### team tagged along.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

They're worried.

It's denial and damage control combined in a beautiful way.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

The Staples-Stauffer etc paranoia is quite funny.

Fluff article ranting against Toronto media but enjoyed the shout out to the rumours coming out of Calgary.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...-stauffer-rant

That "article" ... oof ... pretty much all of that is stuff any quality publication would send back and say 95% of this is cut. You don't need to type out your emotional bathroom musings and pass it as journalism.

[Toast_Man]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

The Staples-Stauffer etc paranoia is quite funny.

Fluff article ranting against Toronto media but enjoyed the shout out to the rumours coming out of Calgary.

https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...-stauffer-rant

Embarrassing. His writing makes Massey College look like Trump University.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

The fact that there is no contract means he's not signing.

Look at it this way. Is there any contract the Oilers would say no to? Of course not. They would agree to anything McDavid asks for.

Why hasn't McDavid asked for his ideal contract then? Because he has no intention of extending there, otherwise it would have been done already.

This isn't a scenario of back-and-forth negotiation between club and player. This is a scenario of a club phoning the player, and him not picking up the phone.

I think the conversation will start to shift when the season starts to trade or walk scenarios.

This. The cap is going up, they would have zero issue being able to re-sign him. A blank check will be given to Connor amongst 32 GMs saying, "pick me, pick me!" I think Leon is doing all he can to have McDavid stay for at least a 4–5-year deal, but even that is hard for McDavid to consider. It's not like he was unfaithful to the Oil, by the time this season ends he has been there for 11 years.

He wants to play where he wants to play, and that seems to be Toronto. He would never admit this, but I bet the sad face he showed during the draft lottery of 2015 was because Toronto was sooo close to winning 1st OA. Instead, they had to roll with other local Toronto kid Mitch Marner as a consolation prize. They now lost him; they let him go. They are most definitely using that cap for a McDavid push and rolling with a McDavid/Matthews 1-2 punch for a few years.

As for a trade scenario, I don't see it happening. If Edmonton's window closed, I would agree with you. It may very well close this year, they lost a lot of talent by having to force themselves to trade cap away. Players like Kane, Perry, Arvidsson, while we like to make fun of how old they were, they were still great depth pieces. Now, they might start the season with a Hyman still recovering from surgery and Ekholm who may be out the whole season. Edmonton is still all in, and probably can win a round or two. If they can miraculously make it to the SCF for the 3rd straight year (which I doubt, the gas isn't there), then they better hope McDavid can finally reach the promised land.

If they lose for a 3rd straight year, no matter the placement of where they end up, why would you even consider going back? Clearly, he will see, (and I think he's starting to finally notice), that you cannot win a championship on the backs of 1 or 2 people. Even the likes of Gretzky/Messier, Lemieux/Jagr, Crosby/Malkin, Toews/Kane, and plenty of other duos/teams all needed a strong supporting cast to win a championship. Better than anything Edmonton has ever employed due to their mismanaged cap tied to players that shouldn't have that kind of cap (Bouchard and Nurse) and terrible goaltending that has been going on for decades.