[News] Kylington signs PTO with Carolina

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Not bad agent advice but Washington gave him a verbal offer prior to July 1st which was considerably better than Calgary's. But they withdrew it when they ended up with someone they wanted more than Kylington.

Yes Chychrun

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Really should've signed that deal with CGY when he had the chance

https://www.nhl.com/hurricanes/news/...sional-tryouts

I'm glad he didn't sign with Calgary. Addition by subtraction.

[old-fart]

I’ll still root for him and wish him the best. I hope he gets it back on track.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by D as in David

Not bad agent advice but Washington gave him a verbal offer prior to July 1st which was considerably better than Calgary's. But they withdrew it when they ended up with someone they wanted more than Kylington.

That’s kind of dirty pool.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Goriders

That’s kind of dirty pool.

It kind of ticks me off a little that the Flames didn't ask the league to look into tampering once that was reported. I get that soft tampering happens once in a while, but it is typically indirect like it gets leaked by the media accidentally on purpose that a team might be interested in a player. And I am sure sometimes players talk to each other occasionally on behalf of managers. But to just put a salary and term on it seems like a step too far and can just break a team's ability to negotiate with their own player with another team in their ear giving exact details of a deal.

The league did recently say that they are going to get more serious about it, but I have my doubts anything comes out of it.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Canes could be a good fit for him. I'm rooting for him.

Nah, #### him. The Flames did everything to accomadte h8m when many other teams would not. He ####ed them. Too bad he is floundering but don't look a gimme horse in the mouth.

[Toonage]

Not to relitigate all of this, but IMO the Flames did as right by him as anyone could and he stuck it to them. He thought he was doing what was right for his career, but in the end it was a pretty big mistake.

In all of this, if he didn't fire his agent that may be the biggest misstep.

[CroFlames]

Still a fan of him. He got poor advice from his agent obviously.

He coulda stayed, proved himself, and earned more years of contract for more money. Coulda been borderline forever a flame.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Nah, #### him. The Flames did everything to accomadte h8m when many other teams would not. He ####ed them. Too bad he is floundering but don't look a gimme horse in the mouth.

A 3rd pairing defenceman with no trade value leaving in free agency in no way “####ed” the Flames.

I get not having interest in his career but being angry and spiteful regarding Kylington is super weird and juvenile.

[Red_Baron]

The flames were more likely to be patient with the flaws in his game than a new team would have been, he found that out the hard way. I wish him well but I think he is going to have trouble establishing himself as a third pairing defensemen going forward. He has the task of finding a team that wants him and has the development staff to work with the flaws in his game at the same time. He is a reclaimation project at this point.
I do admire his resilience on not giving up on his dream and hope he can re-establish himself.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by combustiblefuel

Nah, #### him. The Flames did everything to accomadte h8m when many other teams would not. He ####ed them. Too bad he is floundering but don't look a gimme horse in the mouth.

He did nothing wrong. He didn't screw over the Flames.

Did the Flames miss him? Did he go on and make the Flames regret not offering him more than they thought feasible?

Based on what Washington was willing to give him he felt he could get a better contract than what the Flames were offering him. Too bad for him that Washington pivoted to Chychrun instead. Maybe his agent miscontrued what Washington was telling him, but OK went a direction that he and his agent thought was available. It wasn't. The Flames didn't hurt from this. No harm no foul.

OK hurt from this. It was a gamble and it didn't pay off. Maybe it just wasn't going to pay off no matter where he went.

No need to hate on OK because he left town.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Good luck to him there.


Any word on Rooney or Mantha? Curious where they end up, though I suspect both will also be on PTOs.

[Fighting Banana Slug]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Good luck to him there.


Any word on Rooney or Mantha? Curious where they end up, though I suspect both will also be on PTOs.

I believe Mantha signed with the Pens.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by Fighting Banana Slug

I believe Mantha signed with the Pens.

Does it get any worse than signing as a PTO with this season's edition of the Pens? Although getting a roster spot might be relatively easy with them, compared to other teams.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Macindoc

Does it get any worse than signing as a PTO with this season's edition of the Pens? Although getting a roster spot might be relatively easy with them, compared to other teams.

Mantha signed a regular deal with the Pens. One year, $2.5 million with performance bonuses.

[blankall]

I always got the impression that it was just a business thing with the Flames. Kylington wanted a longer term contract that the Flames were offering. Both sides realized the other could not meet their expectations and they walked away. I never saw any signs of bad blood.

Kylington thought he was worth a 4 year deal. The Flames, in hindsight quite smartly, thought he wasn't. No deal could be reached, and the parties walked away. In hindsight, Kylington would have been better off signing the 2 year deal with the Flames, but unless he finds a way to actually improve his game while with the Flames, he's not in too dissimilar of spot as to what he's in now. Maybe he gets an extra year of contract in a Flames uniform, assuming his current PTO doesn't work out?

[Yeah_Baby]

Originally Posted by blankall

I always got the impression that it was just a business thing with the Flames. Kylington wanted a longer term contract that the Flames were offering. Both sides realized the other could not meet their expectations and they walked away. I never saw any signs of bad blood.

Kylington thought he was worth a 4 year deal. The Flames, in hindsight quite smartly, thought he wasn't. No deal could be reached, and the parties walked away. In hindsight, Kylington would have been better off signing the 2 year deal with the Flames, but unless he finds a way to actually improve his game while with the Flames, he's not in too dissimilar of spot as to what he's in now. Maybe he gets an extra year of contract in a Flames uniform, assuming his current PTO doesn't work out?

Conroy signed Bean to essentially the contract they offered OK. Once they had Bean there was no going back.

[Two Fivenagame]

I heard a while back Kylington was never going to be a Flame again. That he's a pain to work with and some of the players didn't approve of his antics. My guess is the Flames did their best to support the player but wanted his departure to appear as though it was on his terms.

[ResAlien]

It's always interesting to see which players get the smear treatment after they leave and which ones get the deification. Good luck to him

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Yeah_Baby

Conroy signed Bean to essentially the contract they offered OK. Once they had Bean there was no going back.

Bean seems to fit the mixture of the group better than Kylington. Bean is more of a steady defence orientated guy for the bottom pairing. They don't need a not so great offensive guy. That's especially true with Parekh coming in.