Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Slava]

To the surprise of no one, Pierre leads with about 2856 votes and Bonnie is second with about 215. I don’t know that it’s officially called yet, but it’s over.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Slava

To the surprise of no one, Pierre leads with about 2856 votes and Bonnie is second with about 215. I don’t know that it’s officially called yet, but it’s over.

I heard that if you voted for PP you got a free ‘#### Carney’ decal for your window

Who can say no to that

[direwolf]

Can’t believe people still vote for this loser. Dude got his ass handed to him in his own riding FFS. These voters are pathetic.

[iggy_oi]

Are any of those betting apps giving odds on whether or not he’ll still be the party leader by the next election?

[puffnstuff]

Should he win, what are the odds he takes a very undeserved victory lap?

[MegaErtz]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

Are any of those betting apps giving odds on whether or not he’ll still be the party leader by the next election?

No, the only market I can find is whether he'll be out as party leader in 2025. Obviously he won't, he's at 8% though.

[the-rasta-masta]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Low performers doing the bare minimum is not a WFH issue, nor is it even their issue. It’s a sign of really poor management, from poor people skills to crappy processes and systems.

It happens in the office just as much. Terrible managers just think it isn’t because they check a box when someone is sitting at their desk and don’t ever turn in their brain.

I don’t disagree that management quality is the #1 driver of productivity, low performers exist in any setting. But some accountability is built into the environment itself. Remote work makes performance binary: you’re either hitting KPIs or not. In-office, managers can spot bad habits (or promising effort) much earlier, before they show up in results. And when people know their work ethic is visible, that social pressure raises the floor for the whole team. In sales especially, it’s harder to gauge where your team really stands remotely, because you’re forced to judge almost entirely off numbers, and numbers don’t always tell the whole story. Flexible hybrid is the best of both worlds in my experience, there’s no requirement to work a certain amount of days at home or at the office and it’s completely up to the employee on a daily basis, but there’s some expectation that they are around the office from time to time.

[wireframe]

I work from home because the company doesn't have an office in Calgary (and I'm not willing to move) but I would probably go in for 5-6 hours a few days a week if given the chance. I like riding my bike downtown and working together on one computer.


I genuinely believe that most middle managers have no idea what they're supposed to be doing in their job, which is the company's fault, and they self-justify their own jobs by supervising people like a prison guard. Good managers are coaches who maximize what their team can do and bad managers are supervisors who check work. My remote manager is fantastic. He has probably tripled my productive output compared with my previous in-office manager at another company.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by direwolf

Can’t believe people still vote for this loser. Dude got his ass handed to him in his own riding FFS. These voters are pathetic.

"Am I wrong?

No, it's the 90% of voters in that riding that are wrong."

/PrincipalSkinnerMeme



I'm not a PP guy, but couldn't help myself with how over the top your post was.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

"Am I wrong?

No, it's the 90% of voters in that riding that are wrong."

/PrincipalSkinnerMeme



I'm not a PP guy, but couldn't help myself with how over the top your post was.

direwolf is right. PP lost his own riding, which he held for decades. More than 20 years!

Many more voters put in their vote to remove him from government and he cares so little for the opinion of the people that his immediate response was to ignore their votes and go find another riding who would blindly vote for a loser because of the team he is on.

You can't point at the voters of one riding and say they are right to vote someone in moments after another riding voted that same person out.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Wolven

You can't point at the voters of one riding and say they are right to vote someone in moments after another riding voted that same person out.

You can though. Voters in one riding can, and have forever, have very different priorities than voters in another riding. In this specific case, voters in East-Central Alberta have different priorities than voters in an Ottawa suburb.

To say those voters are pathetic is detached from reality.

[Barnet Flame]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

None whatsoever. The delays just trying to drive through North Van on the highway in the middle of the afternoon are soul destroying. Couple of months ago I left Delta BC - not even a high traffic part of the lower mainland, relatively speaking - before 6am to try to get ahead of traffic going to downtown. I was in bumper to bumper within 5 minutes. Apparently you have to leave by 5.

It's like if you took the worst of the Deerfoot traffic and applied it to every major road from Airdrie to Okotoks for about 8 hours a day.

When I'm visiting Calgary, I find it hard not to laugh when my buddy complains about the traffic.

He lets us stay in his house, so I just nod along.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

You can though. Voters in one riding can, and have forever, have very different priorities than voters in another riding. In this specific case, voters in East-Central Alberta have different priorities than voters in an Ottawa suburb.

To say those voters are pathetic is detached from reality.

I want to agree with you, but they did elect a guy who lives in that Ottawa suburb. So you know... it isn't easy to see that being a huge consideration.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

You can though. Voters in one riding can, and have forever, have very different priorities than voters in another riding. In this specific case, voters in East-Central Alberta have different priorities than voters in an Ottawa suburb.

To say those voters are pathetic is detached from reality.

Can we say something of their priorities are pathetic?

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

You can though. Voters in one riding can, and have forever, have very different priorities than voters in another riding. In this specific case, voters in East-Central Alberta have different priorities than voters in an Ottawa suburb.

To say those voters are pathetic is detached from reality.

Based on what? Maybe the voters of that riding are pathetic. That might actually be the reality.

They could be undereducated and completely unaware of the person they are voting for. They are likely completely clueless to his 21 year history in federal politics and how he has voted throughout that time.

They may have priorities but they may not realize that their priorities actually align with the NDP more than the Conservatives or Liberals.

But what I suspect is more true is that they do not understand their own priorities and they are simply voting Conservative because they are angry and the National Post (an American owned rag) told them the only way to handle that anger is to vote team Conservative always and forever.

To me, blindly supporting a party, especially after that party merged with a significantly worse party, is pathetic.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Wolven

Based on what? Maybe the voters of that riding are pathetic. That might actually be the reality.

They could be undereducated and completely unaware of the person they are voting for. They are likely completely clueless to his 21 year history in federal politics and how he has voted throughout that time.

They may have priorities but they may not realize that their priorities actually align with the NDP more than the Conservatives or Liberals.

But what I suspect is more true is that they do not understand their own priorities and they are simply voting Conservative because they are angry and the National Post (an American owned rag) told them the only way to handle that anger is to vote team Conservative always and forever.

To me, blindly supporting a party, especially after that party merged with a significantly worse party, is pathetic.

What have the NDP prioritized versus the Conservatives or Liberals that you think should align with a rural riding like this?

[peter12]

I'm pretty sure the rural Alberta riding has priorities that align with the CPC and not the NDP. Just a hunch. I don't know.

[Senator Clay Davis]

I'm pretty sure Poilievre could support policies that crush that riding's economic fortunes, but they'll still vote for him cause he also did 10 Lib-owning things.

[Stranger]

I reside in the Battle River Crowfoot riding. I voted for him. I wouldn't say the residents or my town are uneducated. I'd say the 80% vote count exactly reflects the riding. We have different priorities than an inner city or suburban community would and that's ok.

We never see any politician come through our small town. Pierre came to our hometown of 400 people. Had coffee in the restaurant. Stopped in the village office and visited a few businesses. I know he likely won't be back. That's completely normal for our area.

To say we are pathetic or a bunch of backwater hicks isn't fair to rural people. There are lots of vey kind, hardworking average people out here. Many I'm sure you'd be proud to call a neighbor or friend if you got to know them.

[IliketoPuck]

Stranger - would you be willing to elaborate on those priorities from your perspective of you and your neighbours? Genuinely curious to learn a bit more, as I've grown up in Calgary and am certainly biased to an urban setting.