American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

One of them almost became our PM. PP voters, turn in your passports.

Equating PP to Trump is lazy and plain wrong. The circle jerk of Liberal supporters on CP continues to increase in intensity.

In the Alberta politics thread there was a comment that said anyone who votes CP is vile and scum. Do to the ucp covering up corruption. I'm not a fan of any of the corruption that had found its way into Canadian politics. Yet, the Liberal party of the past 8 years was not immune to it. I don't recall any right wing supporters calling the left side scum or calling for their passports.

There is an ever growing sense of moral superiority being displayed here every day and it rubs me the wrong way. In reality Canadians are almost split 50/50 in what they support. I'm not sure that it is at all helpful to be lobing such crude comments towards the other side. It definitely will not foster unity and progress us Canadians in a healing direction. It reaks of the crap show that the USA has become.

[KelVarnsen]

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[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Chingas

Equating PP to Trump is lazy and plain wrong. The circle jerk of Liberal supporters on CP continues to increase in intensity.

In the Alberta politics thread there was a comment that said anyone who votes CP is vile and scum. Do to the ucp covering up corruption. I'm not a fan of any of the corruption that had found its way into Canadian politics. Yet, the Liberal party of the past 8 years was not immune to it. I don't recall any right wing supporters calling the left side scum or calling for their passports.

There is an ever growing sense of moral superiority being displayed here every day and it rubs me the wrong way. In reality Canadians are almost split 50/50 in what they support. I'm not sure that it is at all helpful to be lobing such crude comments towards the other side. It definitely will not foster unity and progress us Canadians in a healing direction. It reaks of the crap show that the USA has become.

Go to any comment section of calgary sun articles and tell me that there is noone calling the left side "scum".

It's crazy that you think the right wing are respectful to the left. It's completely not based in reality.

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Go to any comment section of calgary sun articles and tell me that there is noone calling the left side "scum".

It's crazy that you think the right wing are respectful to the left. It's completely not based in reality.

My comment is directed solely to what I am seeing on CP. If there are people on the other side calling people scum then I find it equally deplorable.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Chingas

My comment is directed solely to what I am seeing on CP. If there are people on the other side calling people scum then I find it equally deplorable.

This is such classic third rate right-wing deflection that I can't even begin to respond.

CP leans center-left - you're going to see left wing discourse here. Of course there will be more targeted comments against right-wingers - especially as a whole.

Completely denying the reality of the Calgary Sun existing (or Rebel News or X or whatever you get your news from) and saying that CP is being a bunch of meanies is just crazy.

Get informed about what's happening in our world and come back.

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by Regorium

This is such classic third rate right-wing deflection that I can't even begin to respond.

CP leans center-left - you're going to see left wing discourse here. Of course there will be more targeted comments against right-wingers - especially as a whole.

Completely denying the reality of the Calgary Sun existing (or Rebel News or X or whatever you get your news from) and saying that CP is being a bunch of meanies is just crazy.

Get informed about what's happening in our world and come back.

Lol. It's possible you need to get a grip. Not sure what would make you happy. I think that either side calling the other come scum is ridiculous. I've never consumed any rebel news content and actually get the majority of my news right here on CP. I usually refrain from commenting in the Off topic forum because it has become overly tilted imo. You don't have to like it but that is my observation. You might be better served by not assuming that everyone fits into whatever trope it is that you find disturbing.

Have a good night.

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Spoiler!

Democrats need to find their balls, stop talking about the high road, get messy and get in the ####ing fight. And honestly don't talk about doing this, just f'n do it.

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

All democrats can do is talk, they don't have the testicular fortitude to actually fight back. Just look at how weak Biden's whole administration was against a convicted felon who staged a coup attempt. The fact that Trump was even allowed to run for president after what he did was proof that the US was broken beyond saving

Originally Posted by BigThief

They're always like this "We need to move on and heal" ". After being elected President Obama refused to move forward investigating the Bush administration for torture and illegal surveillance. The 2008 financial crisis Obama wanted to "look forward not backward" instead of prosecuting greedy banker on wall street. Nancy Pelosi wanting to be "unifying not dividing" after the first Trump impeachment. And as you mentioned President Biden after the 2020 election and January 6 insurrection.

Cowards, all of them.

Ok. Offer up some solutions that you crafted while all of this was going on. Please, do go ahead and enlighten us all. Be specific and show your work.

[BigThief]

Are you an idiot?

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Are you an idiot?

You talking to me?

[BigThief]

Your post is directly above mine and I am one of two people you're quoting so what does the context tell you?

Democrats have been way too quick to move on for the sake of the nation, especially in my life time. Al Gore being a giant ##### in 2000 and not wanting to get into the weeds to win an election that he actually won is a other example. Republicans are willing to get dirty and nasty to win, Democrats always want to move on and "heal". Newsom needs to do exactly what he laid out in his letter and not just sit on it.

So yeah, are you an idiot? Go ahead and show my work? What in God's name are you talking about. I never said I have a solution to the world's problem, just that the Democrats need to start fighting back and start holding the other sides feet to the fire instead of always waiting with polysporin.

[Mightyfire89]

Originally Posted by BigThief

Your post is directly above mine and I am one of two people you're quoting so what does the context tell you?

Democrats have been way too quick to move on for the sake of the nation, especially in my life time. Al Gore being a giant ##### in 2000 and not wanting to get into the weeds to win an election that he actually won is a other example. Republicans are willing to get dirty and nasty to win, Democrats always want to move on and "heal". Newsom needs to do exactly what he laid out in his letter and not just sit on it.

So yeah, are you an idiot? Go ahead and show my work? What in God's name are you talking about. I never said I have a solution to the world's problem, just that the Democrats need to start fighting back and start holding the other sides feet to the fire instead of always waiting with polysporin.

Well, you’re getting closer. Offer solutions. Don’t just whine. No, I would not consider myself an idiot. I’m saying don’t fire off whining into the wind, what should have been done differently? Realistically, with details. Also, there are no gods, that’s a human construct, so invoking their name is of no value. Knock that nonsense off.

[WideReceiver]

I never thought Trump would come for Canada militarily. However, L.A., D.C. and he’s threatened to take over other cities. His goons haven’t defied his orders yet; what happens when sets his sights on us and our resources and pulls that trigger?

[Winnie]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

I never thought Trump would come for Canada militarily. However, L.A., D.C. and he’s threatened to take over other cities. His goons haven’t defied his orders yet; what happens when sets his sights on us and our resources and pulls that trigger?

It's crazy to watch this play out in real time. We're literally witnessing critical history here and watching the world change. We're seeing how easy it is for people/countries to get swept up in bullisht without doing anything about it. Canadians are going to have to decide how much they want to sacrifice pretty soon I suspect.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Mightyfire89

Well, you’re getting closer. Offer solutions. Don’t just whine. No, I would not consider myself an idiot. I’m saying don’t fire off whining into the wind, what should have been done differently? Realistically, with details. Also, there are no gods, that’s a human construct, so invoking their name is of no value. Knock that nonsense off.

"What in gods name" is an idiom, I am not actually invoking the name of the lord in hopes of his intervention. You sound 15 years old when you shoot back with back with something like that.

I've given a solution; Democrats need to stop being passive in hopes that the other side will act like adults in the hopes of healing. Beyond that I am not going to write thesis and step by step instructions on how to do that.

Firing off whining into the wind is literally what a message board is. You've been here long enough to understand that concept.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Chingas

Equating PP to Trump is lazy and plain wrong. The circle jerk of Liberal supporters on CP continues to increase in intensity.

In the Alberta politics thread there was a comment that said anyone who votes CP is vile and scum. Do to the ucp covering up corruption. I'm not a fan of any of the corruption that had found its way into Canadian politics. Yet, the Liberal party of the past 8 years was not immune to it. I don't recall any right wing supporters calling the left side scum or calling for their passports.

There is an ever growing sense of moral superiority being displayed here every day and it rubs me the wrong way. In reality Canadians are almost split 50/50 in what they support. I'm not sure that it is at all helpful to be lobing such crude comments towards the other side. It definitely will not foster unity and progress us Canadians in a healing direction. It reaks of the crap show that the USA has become.

Division? Fascists are scum and can't be tolerated. People like PP and Smith are scum, we know they are due to their long public history of dysfunctional actions.

You come across as one of the easily or intentionally gullible voters who said that it's all fear mongering when it gets pointed out just who and what these people really are.

If my calling the supporters of fascist or fascist adjacent movements scum upets you, then maybe you need to learn your history.

And before you try and deflect that PP and Smith aren't members of a fascist movement, Iwillpoint out that glee fully ladhanding convoy creeps(repeatedly) or fawning over Trump makes it perfectly clear.

[Erick Estrada]

I mean he's kind of right in that Liberals have largely been responsible for most of the biggest scandals in Canadian political history and have arguably been much more corrupt overall than Conservative governing parties. I don't know how anyone could seriously believe that Justin Trudeau was a good guy that actually cared about Canadians. He's not in Trump stratosphere (few are) but he was a terrible PM.

[Drak]

I think historically political scandals are pretty even, give or take.

But supporting the Freedom convoy/Maple MAGA BS is pretty corrupt. PP is all over that. As is groveling to Authoritarian Fascist Donald Trump. As is pushing to destroy Canada by calling for separation and meeting with a foreign hostile power who wants to annex your country.

I’m also not sure there’s much value here from a poster who opines about joining fascist America because he thinks it might be better for his children.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

There is an obvious false equivalence here.

Comparing opportunistic conservative politicians to Trump is at this point the new Godwin's law.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

There is an obvious false equivalence here.

Comparing opportunistic conservative politicians to Trump is at this point the new Godwin's law.

It's hard not to, when their party is full of people supporting the same policies as Trump is implementing, and precursor positioning which helped mould the US into the position it could be taken by Trump. Then they use our tax dollars to go down there and promote vile organizations of hate, the very same that Trump champions.


Honestly I think you have to be a bit dull if you don't see the UCP, Smith, and their policies as a shadow of Trumpism, which is hallmarked by polices such as anti-queer bigotry, anti-intellectualism, seizing control(APP, Policing, ####ing bike lanes), Christofacism, anti-disability, overreach, exceptionalism, and disdain for anyone less fortunate than they are(Alberta oil gives us the power to despise the rest of the country for "getting in our way").


I'm not sure PP is quite as extreme, but I'm not willing to find out by putting him in power. Like, why risk that?