2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Bingo]

Farabee had the team's 3rd highest forward (really 2nd) xGF60 last year. The puck just didn't go in.

He was 5th in expected individual goals/60, 8th in individual scoring chance / 60 and 4th in individual high danger /60.

Not a time to sell.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

It's funny how Farabee is viewed as a borderline cap dump even though he is actually younger than Frost and is one year removed from a career high of 22 goals, and 50 points both of which are numbers Frost has yet to eclipse.

Frost makes 4.375M and everyone was thrilled with that deal and Farabee makes 5M, and most think he vastly overpaid. Pretty wild.

Many fans are extremely influenced by recency bias.

He had a career PPG of 0.52 before joining the Flames. For comparison:
Sharangovich is 0.55
Zary is 0.52
Frost is 0.47 (0.49 before joining the Flames)

But 30 games with the Flames, where neither he, nor anyone he was on the ice with, could buy a goal with a chequebook, and suddenly he's a cap dump.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

Frost has shown progression every year and Farabee has regressed.

Also, I'm sure it's more than just the counting stats. Maybe Philadelphia saw something in his play that was worrisome.

Or maybe they're just wrong, and Farabee bounces back and turns back into a hard-nosed, scoring middle-six winger well worth the 5M contract. Philly just wasn't willing to take that risk.

Or it just came down to too many players and we need to make a decision?

Flames will be in that boat soon.

Flyers started the rebuild earlier. They have Konecny and Couturier that get top 6 minutes and Couturier is like their Huberdeau, they would probably trade him if they could.

Foerster
Brink
Michkov
Tippett
Frost
Farabee

More draft picks, more prospects coming. If you keep all your vets, keep all your quality players, stockpile picks and develop more prospects, some players just won't get a crack.

Good teams make a call on players and it just could come down to we like the players but they 4 mentioned above me like better.

[dissentowner]

Remember that sick goal Farabee scored last year where he went through the entire opposing team and scored a beauty. I think that was against Detroit. The tools are there

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

Sounds like a cap dump to me . Philly included him to get a RFA back they didn’t qualify ? So they essentially gave him away for nothing in this scenario

And it could easily have been Kuz ++ for Frost and when Flames took Farabee the ++ came down to a 2nd

I don't think he was a cap dump, but I also don't think that he added much value to the deal, probably something around a 3rd.

As far as what to do with Farabee, I don't think the Flames could get anything for him right now, but with the raising cap I also don't see him as a negative asset at this point. IMO if he has a successful season then he would be worth around a 2nd round pick in return. If he doesn't then you could still probably trade him because there's plenty of cap-space, and he's young enough that teams would want to take a chance on a 1-2 year contract.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Remember that sick goal Farabee scored last year where he went through the entire opposing team and scored a beauty. I think that was against Detroit. The tools are there

Dallas I believe, but yes.

I would actually like to see Farabee with Huberdeau. Hubie can spot a pass, and Kadri on that line is a high volume shooter, so a player like Farabee who is always going to the net with his stick on the ice would be a good fit imo.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Many fans are extremely influenced by recency bias.

He had a career PPG of 0.52 before joining the Flames. For comparison:
Sharangovich is 0.55
Zary is 0.52
Frost is 0.47 (0.49 before joining the Flames)

But 30 games with the Flames, where neither he, nor anyone he was on the ice with, could buy a goal with a chequebook, and suddenly he's a cap dump.

GMs too.

Going into last season Frost was a 25 year old center with 87 points in his previous 150 games (48 point pace).

Farabee was a 24 year old winger with 182 points in 334 career games (45 point pace), and 2 20 goal seasons.

The asking price on each of them during the 2024 offseason was probably a 1st round pick based on their age, production, and draft pedigree. But 50 games later on a bad team with no puck luck and they were see sold at the absolute low point of their value.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

GMs too.

Going into last season Frost was a 25 year old center with 87 points in his previous 150 games (48 point pace).

Farabee was a 24 year old winger with 182 points in 334 career games (45 point pace), and 2 20 goal seasons.

The asking price on each of them during the 2024 offseason was probably a 1st round pick based on their age, production, and draft pedigree. But 50 games later on a bad team with no puck luck and they were see sold at the absolute low point of their value.

You say overreact. I'm going with waited too long. This is the difference between fans online vs GM's who have to make decisions and be held accountable for the decisions.

I agree that the value was at an all-time high the summer before the trade. Both had good seasons, and both were young and quality contracts. Very tough to trade both at that point, most fans would say the same thing. But ice time is always overlooked.

The most obvious prospect in this equation is Michkov. Potential superstar needs superstar ice time. Someone has to lose out. The better players you add, ice time stays the same. Foerster and Brink are 2 others. Ice is trending up. PP time is trending up.

Low point for the Flyers was to trade them when they did, but if they waited with the players they have, the trade value was never going back to what it was unless you let them play the ice the used to get.

Michkov's 16:41 is going up this year, no question about it.

This is why Conroy needs to make decisions and trust the scouts to replace players. Can't keep everyone too long and he is running the risk of moving out players for way less as young players push for more ice.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

Or it just came down to too many players and we need to make a decision?

Flames will be in that boat soon.

Flyers started the rebuild earlier. They have Konecny and Couturier that get top 6 minutes and Couturier is like their Huberdeau, they would probably trade him if they could.

Foerster
Brink
Michkov
Tippett
Frost
Farabee

More draft picks, more prospects coming. If you keep all your vets, keep all your quality players, stockpile picks and develop more prospects, some players just won't get a crack.

Good teams make a call on players and it just could come down to we like the players but they 4 mentioned above me like better.

Brink is one year younger and Foerster is two years younger. Tippett is older. I am personally thankful that the Flames do not fire sale assets around the concept that players won’t get a crack if you don’t trade vets. It just is not factually accurate. And it is poor asset management.

[dammage79]

The Torts curse has had time to wash away from Frost and Farabee as well. I expect them to make significant jumps up the basic stats next season.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Remember that sick goal Farabee scored last year where he went through the entire opposing team and scored a beauty. I think that was against Detroit. The tools are there

I thought he played pretty well and was unlucky to not get more points.

[Sec214]

[SuperMatt18]

These ones always get me, as Sec214 has used similar gifs on many occasions.

Are they putting out the Flames because whatever deal that got hot is now cooling off?

[CFO]

Farabee sort of the flames version of acquired Bennett.

Beaten down, needs a change, etc.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

These ones always get me, as Sec214 has used similar gifs on many occasions.

Are they putting out the Flames because whatever deal that got hot is now cooling off?

Or teams are telling the Flames to go away for now.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Brink is one year younger and Foerster is two years younger. Tippett is older. I am personally thankful that the Flames do not fire sale assets around the concept that players won’t get a crack if you don’t trade vets. It just is not factually accurate. And it is poor asset management.

What does age have to do with it? 4 forward typically get #1 PP ice, and 6 forwards get top 6 ice. Michkov was not on the team the year before. Someone has to come off the top 2 lines and the #1 PP.

Brink got 3rd line minutes in 23/24, he got similar minutes to Frost and Farabee in 24/25.

Frost and Farabee's minutes slid 3 years in a row. At some point it will hurt their production. You have to make a decision at some point and contracts factor in. Did Philly make the right decision, we will never know as both players should get more opportuntiy with the Flames for now.

[ResAlien]

Oh no first the flames were in deep with Anaheim now the flames are being put out. Shucks sounded like a deal was close but now nothing. Bummer.

[FBI]

or.... nothing can stop the flames and they are burning bright on this deal (lol)

[CFO]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

These ones always get me, as Sec214 has used similar gifs on many occasions.

Are they putting out the Flames because whatever deal that got hot is now cooling off?

I see fire and feathers.

[ICRed]

VP of communications Sean Kelso extinguishing any hopes of a trade