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Addick · 07-19-2007, 07:59 PM

This is bloody bollocks! Two semi-finals and two pathetic performances. Last night it was the Austrians and tonight it was Wolfgang. The Argentine players were playing him like a fiddle! His calls were atrocious and his decisions baffling. How can a man be so blind to diving? If it was ladies football it might be excused because of the cleavage factor but this is the Men’s U20 for Christ’s sake, it’s unfathomable! This leads me to an issue of mine…

Players deserve a lot of the blame for the amount of diving that takes place in the game today, but at the same time FIFA needs to be scolded for not doing anything to stop it. If players are continually allowed to get away with the act of diving they will continue to do as they either don’t think it’s wrong or because they know they can get away with it. They need to be taught that it’s wrong and won’t be tolerated. I’m totally against bringing instant replay and other technologies into the game, but I do think they need to bring in post game video review for disciplinary measures.

Maserati · 07-19-2007, 08:00 PM

dat ref. did a poor job tonight.
final on sunday

GirlySports · 07-19-2007, 08:10 PM

One of the Chilean players must've slept with the refs wife. I've never seen a ref lose his temper so easily and ref so one sided.

This cannot help increase popularity of soccer in Canada at all!

hereandthere · 07-19-2007, 09:47 PM

You want to dive Chile it will come back to you. HaHaHa. Now if that could happen to all those South American countries too we would be better off. Everytime I saw Chile play they were diving. Brazil dives. Uruguay dives. Argentina dives. It is good when one of them gets their medicine back.

Dan02 · 07-19-2007, 11:39 PM

wow did that chilean team ever embarass their country.... refering to the post game activities.

RedHot25 · 07-20-2007, 06:09 AM

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...hub=TopStories

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/fifau20/sto...le-police.html

troutman · 07-20-2007, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan02

wow did that chilean team ever embarass their country.... refering to the post game activities.

The men's team also distinguished themselves by trashing the hotel after the Copa America.

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/200...331319-ap.html

troutman · 07-20-2007, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Addick

This is bloody bollocks! Two semi-finals and two pathetic performances. Last night it was the Austrians and tonight it was Wolfgang. The Argentine players were playing him like a fiddle! His calls were atrocious and his decisions baffling. How can a man be so blind to diving? If it was ladies football it might be excused because of the cleavage factor but this is the Men’s U20 for Christ’s sake, it’s unfathomable! This leads me to an issue of mine…

Players deserve a lot of the blame for the amount of diving that takes place in the game today, but at the same time FIFA needs to be scolded for not doing anything to stop it. If players are continually allowed to get away with the act of diving they will continue to do as they either don’t think it’s wrong or because they know they can get away with it. They need to be taught that it’s wrong and won’t be tolerated. I’m totally against bringing instant replay and other technologies into the game, but I do think they need to bring in post game video review for disciplinary measures.

Chile complaining about diving? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Remember the Copa America?

How to end the diving? It's time for FIFA to allow goons and enforcers.

RedHot25 · 07-20-2007, 09:48 AM

http://www.tsn.ca/soccer/news_story/?ID=214113&hubname=

troutman · 07-20-2007, 01:27 PM

Chile to make formal complaint:

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Soccer/200...353613-cp.html

"Naturally this is not a normal situation and we're going to demand a clear explanation for why the police reacted this way with such unusual methods in a situation of this kind," Chile's Foreign Affairs Minister Alejandro Foxley told Chilean media.

Toronto police Chief Bill Blair said officers were forced to take action as the team was leaving the stadium when a dispute broke out between a Chilean player and a rival fan.

"Members of the Chilean team then decided to direct some of their aggressive behaviour towards my officers," Blair said in a release.

"The job of my officers was to respond in a firm, but fair, manner to end that violence. They are trained to do so, and that is what they did."

Sylvanfan · 07-20-2007, 01:44 PM

Well...it's not like South American's are used to fair justice for all. If theres a part of the world where two and three tier justice still rules, it's on that continent. The fact that they were treated like any other citizen after the altercation was probably a first time for a lot of those guys and they'll likley never understand why they didn't get preferential treatment like they would at home. Had they reacted that way in Brazil or Argentina, they'd have been a lot worse off. They had some legitimate beefing with the officiating but they did react in a very poor manner and showed little or no composure.

Knut · 07-20-2007, 03:34 PM

From the ARticle

"They hit me with an electrical current and I fainted," player Isaias Perralta told Chilean media. "When I regained consciousness, I saw 10 police officers were hitting me and throwing acid in my face."

Wow..... throwing acid eh!!!

Resolute 14 · 07-20-2007, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Hesla

From the ARticle

"They hit me with an electrical current and I fainted," player Isaias Perralta told Chilean media. "When I regained consciousness, I saw 10 police officers were hitting me and throwing acid in my face."

Wow..... throwing acid eh!!!

LOL!

Somoene needs to teach the Chileans that Canadian police aren't like Chilean police. Brutality is the exception, not the norm, and this kid is going to have to prove his allegations before anyone here takes him seriously.

ricoFlame · 07-20-2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Snakeeye

LOL!

Somoene needs to teach the Chileans that Canadian police aren't like Chilean police. Brutality is the exception, not the norm, and this kid is going to have to prove his allegations before anyone here takes him seriously.

his permenant acid burns should be evidence enough

. what a joke. chilean football looked so great prior to this meltdown both including and after the game, and the response from players and whatnot. can't just accept that perhaps they got a raw deal (depending on perspective) quietly get out of there and get over it. now they look awful, and the compounding lies, storytelling and complaining is just making things much much worse. brutal.

browna · 07-20-2007, 10:23 PM

I don't want to paint all Chileans/South American's with the same brush when it comes to this stuff, but I have countless first hand experience with similar things on the local level...as in trying to intimidate the refs, going so far as to chase them off the field and confront them in the parking lot after.

As far as for playing against other teams, basically, do all they can to get an advantage on the field, the red cards last night are evident of that. They'll spit in your eyes step on your feet, curse to you...supposed all fair game. You give them a hard and fair challenge and they'll go diving and crying...and threatening you the rest of the game. Again, everything they do is in gamemanship, but any time you push back, its a soap opera and complete overreaction...both at the time, and in the aftermath...after the game, or in the parking lot when they have all sorts of backup.

I don't defend the police often in these sort of abuse issues, but again, having seen this garbage myself, guaranteed one or two members of the team provoked police in some way that would get you thrown in jail overnight here...when the cops push back, so let the dramatics begin, with other players overreacting out of control and pouring off the bus. The cops rightly so have to take control, quick, which they did....but it won't prevent the Chileans from completely blowing this out of proportion like they have, but basically deserving any treatment they got.

Maserati · 07-21-2007, 09:57 PM

cops did the correct thing to step in and protect the refs.

ricoFlame · 07-22-2007, 01:46 PM

the simulation by the argentines in the first 25 minutes of this game is disgraceful. what an embarassment to football these players are.

GirlySports · 07-22-2007, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ricoFlame

the simulation by the argentines in the first 25 minutes of this game is disgraceful. what an embarassment to football these players are.

Czech's are flopping around too to be fair. And what's with these refs. It's like they're egomaniacs trying to get a job for senior level. How can you have 30 fouls in one half! I watched Iran-South Korea (Asian Cup) this morning and there were less than 30 fouls in 120 minutes!

Having a tournament in Canada is fun but this tournament has been a disaster. The first round was ok but the refereeing in the knockout stages has been awful.

llama64 · 07-22-2007, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by GirlySports

Czech's are flopping around too to be fair. And what's with these refs.

Seems more a response to the Argentine's drama then their normal style. This is not something you can say of the Argentina team.

Until FIFA starts getting their refs to hand out reds for this simulation bull, controversy is going to continue.

ricoFlame · 07-22-2007, 02:39 PM

2 goals in 2 minutes...way to hold the lead czechs...