Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community
Old 07-12-2025, 10:33 AM   #2481
chemgear
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:
Default

Canada 5 year bond rates have trending up. Gotta see how much the budget deficit will balloon whenever we finally get to releasing it.
chemgear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2025, 03:43 PM   #2482
powderjunkie
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NinePack View Post
I just received an email, still 3.74% 5year, 3 year is 3.94%

And 5 year variable is prime -.85

I am going to wait till June 4th, still not sure what to do, I always like my fixed rate though.
Who was offering that 5 year rate? We've gotten the same offer for 3 year, but 5 has been higher...
__________________
CP's 15th Most Annoying Poster! (who wasn't too cowardly to enter that super duper serious competition)
powderjunkie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2025, 01:56 PM   #2483
NinePack
Scoring Winger
 
NinePack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Exp:
Default

It is through First National. Not sure which lender they found.
NinePack is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to NinePack For This Useful Post:
Old 07-15-2025, 01:57 PM   #2484
NinePack
Scoring Winger
 
NinePack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Exp:
Default

If I was to do 3 years it was 3.99%
NinePack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2025, 02:47 PM   #2485
opendoor
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Exp:
Default

First National is the lender, they're not a brokerage. I renewed with them a couple of years ago and found them to be pretty aggressive (as in they were offering competitive rates) at renewal. It took a couple of emails back and forth, but I was able to get a rate as low as I saw anywhere.
opendoor is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-15-2025, 04:01 PM   #2486
NinePack
Scoring Winger
 
NinePack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by opendoor View Post
First National is the lender, they're not a brokerage. I renewed with them a couple of years ago and found them to be pretty aggressive (as in they were offering competitive rates) at renewal. It took a couple of emails back and forth, but I was able to get a rate as low as I saw anywhere.
Yes . Thanks the correction just had it backwards. Yes first national is brokerage.
NinePack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2025, 02:06 PM   #2487
bizaro86
Franchise Player
 
bizaro86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NinePack View Post
Yes . Thanks the correction just had it backwards. Yes first national is brokerage.
First National is not a brokerage.

They're one of the lenders a broker would be likely to use.
bizaro86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2025, 01:17 PM   #2488
Ironhorse
Franchise Player
 
Ironhorse's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

So our mortgage is up for renewal in September, I've been holding off until August because life and holy feck am I getting peppered with emails and calls from my bank's "mortgage specialists" (where the mortgage is) to renew. One of them even called my work (but was thwarted by the front desk). Are these frigging people on commission or something?
Ironhorse is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2025, 01:40 PM   #2489
albertGQ
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironhorse View Post
So our mortgage is up for renewal in September, I've been holding off until August because life and holy feck am I getting peppered with emails and calls from my bank's "mortgage specialists" (where the mortgage is) to renew. One of them even called my work (but was thwarted by the front desk). Are these frigging people on commission or something?
Mortgage specialists are on 100% commission
albertGQ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2025, 01:52 PM   #2490
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ironhorse View Post
So our mortgage is up for renewal in September, I've been holding off until August because life and holy feck am I getting peppered with emails and calls from my bank's "mortgage specialists" (where the mortgage is) to renew. One of them even called my work (but was thwarted by the front desk). Are these frigging people on commission or something?
Contact MillerTime if you need a Mortgage Broker, at least he's not just some Rando fishing for commish.
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans

If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Locke is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Locke For This Useful Post:
Old 07-24-2025, 03:50 PM   #2491
MillerTime GFG
First Line Centre
 
MillerTime GFG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Mckenzie Towne
Exp:
Default

Thanks mate.


The market has dried up a fair bit, so lenders are relentless on renewal business these days. Not to mention there are more mortgages coming up for renewal in '25 and '26 than ever before.


Rates starting with a "3" are few and far between these days with how bond yields have gone the last month or so. And it's looking like less of a guarantee BoC will lower rates on the 30th, for any variable rate holders.

Predictions are still that the overnight rate should drop another 50-75 bps by the end of 2026 though, so a lot of households are electing to take a variable rate right now to "ride it out" for a year or so to see if they can time locking into a fixed rate (free of charge) when they go down.
MillerTime GFG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2025, 04:03 PM   #2492
MillerTime GFG
First Line Centre
 
MillerTime GFG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Mckenzie Towne
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke View Post
Contact MillerTime if you need a Mortgage Broker, at least he's not just some Rando fishing for commish.

I'm a rando that wishes he was fishing!
MillerTime GFG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2025, 04:11 PM   #2493
Locke
Franchise Player
 
Locke's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG View Post
I'm a rando that wishes he was fishing!
Fair enough!

Its just that I've seen what you do and that you do it for a living and aren't some fly-by-night person who threw up a shingle just because 'lots of mortgages are coming up for renewal.'
__________________
The Beatings Shall Continue Until Morale Improves!

This Post Has Been Distilled for the Eradication of Seemingly Incurable Sadness.

The World Ends when you're dead. Until then, you've got more punishment in store. - Flames Fans

If you thought this season would have a happy ending, you haven't been paying attention.
Locke is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Locke For This Useful Post:
Old 07-24-2025, 07:18 PM   #2494
bagofpucks
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG View Post
Thanks mate.


The market has dried up a fair bit, so lenders are relentless on renewal business these days. Not to mention there are more mortgages coming up for renewal in '25 and '26 than ever before.


Rates starting with a "3" are few and far between these days with how bond yields have gone the last month or so. And it's looking like less of a guarantee BoC will lower rates on the 30th, for any variable rate holders.

Predictions are still that the overnight rate should drop another 50-75 bps by the end of 2026 though, so a lot of households are electing to take a variable rate right now to "ride it out" for a year or so to see if they can time locking into a fixed rate (free of charge) when they go down.
Yes, this has been our strategy as fixed rates weren’t great. We went with a prime - 1% variable and we’ll see where things go in the next 12-18 months.

Oddly enough, our bank didn’t even call us with offers for our renewal. They sent us a package and never followed up, so it really seemed like they didn’t want to go after our business and their proposed rates weren’t close to what we could get with a mortgage broker. The previous mortgage specialist was a family friend and I know she retired, so maybe we just fell through the cracks?

Another weird thing is our bank is being sticky about a penalty for breaking the mortgage, even though the mortgage was end of term. The broker explained they give a bit of wiggle room on both sides in terms of dates to ensure everything gets closed in time, but our previous bank wants to tag us with a fairly steep penalty, which is really weird.

Last edited by bagofpucks; 07-24-2025 at 07:25 PM.
bagofpucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2025, 07:56 PM   #2495
bizaro86
Franchise Player
 
bizaro86's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bagofpucks View Post
Yes, this has been our strategy as fixed rates weren’t great. We went with a prime - 1% variable and we’ll see where things go in the next 12-18 months.

Oddly enough, our bank didn’t even call us with offers for our renewal. They sent us a package and never followed up, so it really seemed like they didn’t want to go after our business and their proposed rates weren’t close to what we could get with a mortgage broker. The previous mortgage specialist was a family friend and I know she retired, so maybe we just fell through the cracks?

Another weird thing is our bank is being sticky about a penalty for breaking the mortgage, even though the mortgage was end of term. The broker explained they give a bit of wiggle room on both sides in terms of dates to ensure everything gets closed in time, but our previous bank wants to tag us with a fairly steep penalty, which is really weird.
Why not just close on the end of the term? I've paid out a mortgage on renewal and it wasnt a big deal.
bizaro86 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2025, 08:14 PM   #2496
bagofpucks
Scoring Winger
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

That was our game plan and what I agreed to, so I’m thinking someone messed up the paper work, but we’ll see what they come back with. When I questioned the penalty as we were going through everything they assured me it would not be assessed because everything would be executed at the end term date, but they put in some wiggle room as they are preparing things.
bagofpucks is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-24-2025, 10:57 PM   #2497
chemgear
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bagofpucks View Post
Another weird thing is our bank is being sticky about a penalty for breaking the mortgage, even though the mortgage was end of term. The broker explained they give a bit of wiggle room on both sides in terms of dates to ensure everything gets closed in time, but our previous bank wants to tag us with a fairly steep penalty, which is really weird.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bizaro86 View Post
Why not just close on the end of the term? I've paid out a mortgage on renewal and it wasnt a big deal.
I know it's late but this is also strange to me. It's been a long while since but I've also wiped out the remaining balance once it hit renewal.

What are exactly would you breaking? Did they put some kind of language where you HAD to go with them again? Confused.
chemgear is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-25-2025, 11:18 AM   #2498
MillerTime GFG
First Line Centre
 
MillerTime GFG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Mckenzie Towne
Exp:
Default

Sometimes renewals close after renewal date, for whatever reason (clients delayed in getting documents in, lender is slow, etc.)....in these cases, I personally always advise clients to contact their existing lender to have them renew them into an OPEN mortgage, which can buy a few extra days. No penalty to break an open mortgage, and while the rate is higher, it would only be a few days, so the difference is negligible.
MillerTime GFG is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:06 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy