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			I would easily throw Mews in.  I'm not high on him though.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 10:25 AM
			
			
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				It would be nice if one of our LHD in the system would step up so the Flames don't have to spend potentially multiple assets on a guy like Byram. 
 
Solovyov, Kuznetsov, Grushnikov and Poirier, I'm looking at you. Especially Poirier who is a similar style Dman to a guy like Byram. 
			
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Morin is likely to be good but doesn't have the potential Bryam has (Morin likely a very solid 3-5 two way defender). 
 
Bryam has legit top pairing potential, none of the players listed about have this.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 10:48 AM
			
			
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			Why not just offer sheet him? We have tons of cap space and picks. Get your picks back when you dump Anderson. So ends up being an Andersson for Byram trade
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 10:53 AM
			
			
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				Why not just offer sheet him? We have tons of cap space and picks. Get your picks back when you dump Anderson. So ends up being an Andersson for Byram trade 
			
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And then Wolf gets hurt and Calgary gives up the 2nd best odds in the 2026 draft.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 10:54 AM
			
			
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				Why not just offer sheet him? We have tons of cap space and picks. Get your picks back when you dump Anderson. So ends up being an Andersson for Byram trade 
			
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That would be the time that flames win the lottery…lol
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 10:54 AM
			
			
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			With the value of the contract that Byram would sign for, the Flames would be obligated to give up at least their own 2026 First Round pick. There's no chance the Flames risk it in next year's draft.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-02-2025, 10:56 AM
			
			
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				And then Wolf gets hurt and Calgary gives up the 2nd best odds in the 2026 draft. 
			
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			07-02-2025, 10:57 AM
			
			
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				Why not just offer sheet him? We have tons of cap space and picks. Get your picks back when you dump Anderson. So ends up being an Andersson for Byram trade 
			
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One, he has to want to sign with Calgary. And two, none of the low end/ middle teams are giving up their 2026 first rounder as compensation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-02-2025, 10:58 AM
			
			
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Not that simple you cannot lottery protect offer sheet 1st round compensation
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 11:04 AM
			
			
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			nm vinny got it
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 11:06 AM
			
			
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				I would imagine Buffalo is looking at what the Rangers just got for K'Andre Miller as a guideline for what they'd want to get for Byram: 1st+2nd+top D prospect. 
 
Although if Buffalo is looking for "now" pieces as rumored that might change the equation a bit. Either way, I wouldn't want CGY to give up anything of significance for a guy whose draft pedigree vastly surpasses his actual NHL results to date. 
			
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Is Byram really good enough to warrant a return like this?  His numbers in Buffalo nosedived when he wasn't paired with Dahlin.  
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			I don't buy that he's good enough but I suspect he'd be gone already if that wasn't the calibre of return Buffalo is looking for. These types of defencemen tend to return quite a bit (contract extension talks notwithstanding of course)
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-02-2025, 11:18 AM
			
			
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			I'm glad Kevyn Adams doesnt want picks or I'll be scared. 
 
Henry Mews + Pospisil + Farabee / Frost / Sharangovich I'm good with.  Pospisil is actually my favorite piece from that mix.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 11:19 AM
			
			
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			Nick Leddy was just put on waivers. Probably a precursor to a Byram deal to STL. Just a guess.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 11:21 AM
			
			
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			07-02-2025, 11:31 AM
			
			
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			Not sure I understand the Byram hate. He is 24, which matches with the age range this team looking for. He played 22mins a night last year. He produced 1.31 5v5 points/60, is better than Coronato. Calgary’s highest producing defenseman was Weegar at 0.86 5v5 points/60.  
 
He was stuck behind Makar in Colorado on the PP, and stuck behind Dahlin and Powers in Buffalo on the PP. Here he would be the QB on PP1. So I think his offensive production would receive a nice bump. 
 
He needs some work defensively, but everyone in Buffalo needed work defensively. I think a lot of that will be ironed out in Calgary’s system. 
 
Of course everything comes down to acquisition cost. I wouldn’t move Parekh, Wolf, Coronato or any 1st round pick, but I could see a package built outside of those pieces.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 11:41 AM
			
			
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Of course everything comes down to acquisition cost. I wouldn’t move Parekh, Wolf, Coronato or any 1st round pick, but I could see a package built outside of those pieces. 
			
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The problem is that outside of those players, Calagry doesn't have much else to lead the package compared to other teams.
 
The best player in competing packages is often the winner.  A collection of stuff you don't mind giving up is not that.
 
Unless you'd be willing to move the 2025 first round picks.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-02-2025, 11:44 AM
			
			
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				The problem is that outside of those players, Calagry doesn't have much else to lead the package compared to other teams. 
 
The best player in competing packages is often the winner.  A collection of stuff you don't mind giving up is not that. 
 
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			07-02-2025, 11:47 AM
			
			
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Did you think K'Andre Miller is good enough to get the return he did?
 
These 25 and under defenceman with draft pedigree do tend to hold value a bit longer because there's still hope that they can round out their games and get to another level.  
 
I don't know if Id want to pay the Miller return here.  But I could see it being close to that.  Depends on how Buffalo values some immediate NHL players.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-02-2025, 11:53 AM
			
			
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				Not sure I understand the Byram hate. He is 24, which matches with the age range this team looking for. He played 22mins a night last year. He produced 1.31 5v5 points/60, is better than Coronato. Calgary’s highest producing defenseman was Weegar at 0.86 5v5 points/60.  
 
He was stuck behind Makar in Colorado on the PP, and stuck behind Dahlin and Powers in Buffalo on the PP. Here he would be the QB on PP1. So I think his offensive production would receive a nice bump. 
 
He needs some work defensively, but everyone in Buffalo needed work defensively. I think a lot of that will be ironed out in Calgary’s system. 
 
Of course everything comes down to acquisition cost. I wouldn’t move Parekh, Wolf, Coronato or any 1st round pick, but I could see a package built outside of those pieces. 
			
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Like you said, it comes down to acquisition cost.  Personally, I don't see adding an offensive defenseman as the main need for the team.  So if you are giving up prime assets, there is a potential opportunity cost say if a decent center or top line offensive player becomes available and you don't have the pieces to make that trade.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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