06-30-2025, 03:12 PM
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#161
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BaconGuy
12m is 14m with no state tax
Saying these teams have no advantage is a straight up lie
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https://cardinalpointathleteadvisors...ax-calculator/
I can't speak to the accuracy of this calculator, but it aligns with your point.
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06-30-2025, 03:17 PM
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#162
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BaconGuy
12m is 14m with no state tax
Saying these teams have no advantage is a straight up lie
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Well no states have a 16% tax rate, although Cali is close.
Athletes will still need to pay state tax based on where they play so it’s not zero e en in Nevada.
Presumably more and more players will elect to defer some of their comp to avoid higher state income taxes if they want to live somewhere else after playing.
It’s not as clear cut as you make it seem but there is definitely an economic advantage.
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06-30-2025, 03:17 PM
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#163
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UnModerator
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Vancouver, British Columbia.
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It's not an actual advantage until John Tavares loses his case with the CRA.
As of right now, all a player has to do is list their primary residence as a no-state tax state and then negotiate for a signing bonus heavy pay out. The only teams this is a disadvantage for are the poor or cheap teams.
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06-30-2025, 03:18 PM
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#164
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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06-30-2025, 03:21 PM
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#165
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First Line Centre
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That's a sweet deal for Toronto.
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06-30-2025, 03:22 PM
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#166
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Presumably more and more players will elect to defer some of their comp to avoid higher state income taxes if they want to live somewhere else after playing.
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I thought it was reported that the new CBA is getting rid of deferred salary.
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Originally Posted by Blaster86
It's not an actual advantage until John Tavares loses his case with the CRA.
As of right now, all a player has to do is list their primary residence as a no-state tax state and then negotiate for a signing bonus heavy pay out. The only teams this is a disadvantage for are the poor or cheap teams.
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Tavares already had a big victory when CRA didn't provide documents to support their case. CRA hasn't said yet whether they will appeal, but if they don't, then Tavares wins.
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06-30-2025, 03:22 PM
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#167
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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I feel like this means Vegas can't possibly sign Razzy now, which should force him to open up his list of teams he'd sign with.
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06-30-2025, 03:23 PM
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#168
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Treliving got jack from it. Roy doesn't even raise their basement.
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06-30-2025, 03:24 PM
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#169
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Is it taboo to wish injuries on a team?
With all these splashy high price players they are top heavy. Wouldn't it be something if a few of their high end players got bit by the injury bug (Stone, Marner, Eichel, Pierrangelo). Have a horrible year and then the Flames profit with the unprotected first rounder. Dare to dream.
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06-30-2025, 03:25 PM
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#170
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Wow Vegas is able to do what they want it is crazy. 3 of the top 5 picks from the 2015 draft.
Is Nic Roy any good?
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06-30-2025, 03:26 PM
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#171
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluejays
Treliving got jack from it. Roy doesn't even raise their basement.
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He was walking in 9 hours. They got a rock solid 3rd liner back. I don't see the issue.
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06-30-2025, 03:26 PM
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#172
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
Wow Vegas is able to do what they want it is crazy. 3 of the top 5 picks from the 2015 draft.
Is Nic Roy any good?
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30-40 point guy that can move up and down the lineup
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06-30-2025, 03:27 PM
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#173
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bluejays
Treliving got jack from it. Roy doesn't even raise their basement.
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He got more than most teams get for pending UFAs right before they walk. Credit is due.
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06-30-2025, 03:27 PM
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#174
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#1 Goaltender
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Toronto being patient and will go after McDavid in 2026 I bet.
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06-30-2025, 03:27 PM
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#175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
I feel like this means Vegas can't possibly sign Razzy now, which should force him to open up his list of teams he'd sign with.
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Roy was I believe 2.8m in cap, a fully retained Razz fits right in there, snug as a bug.
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06-30-2025, 03:27 PM
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#176
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Franchise Player
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Glass half full take... a coiler rival got better.
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06-30-2025, 03:28 PM
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#177
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Normally, my desk
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This will put Vegas $6,813,571 over the cap. I know it was strongly speculated, but I think this all but guarantess Pieterangelo and his $8.8MM will be on LTIR to start the season. It's the only player other than Eichel or Stone which can put them under and I don't think they have the depth to trade 2 roster players for picks to keep them compliant.
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06-30-2025, 03:30 PM
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#178
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
Roy was I believe 2.8m in cap, a fully retained Razz fits right in there, snug as a bug.
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3 million for 2 more seasons.
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06-30-2025, 03:30 PM
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#179
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
I feel like this means Vegas can't possibly sign Razzy now, which should force him to open up his list of teams he'd sign with.
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You would think but you can never count out Vegas acquiring more players.
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06-30-2025, 03:30 PM
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#180
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeman4Gilmour
This will put Vegas $6,813,571 over the cap. I know it was strongly speculated, but I think this all but guarantess Pieterangelo and his $8.8MM will be on LTIR to start the season. It's the only player other than Eichel or Stone which can put them under and I don't think they have the depth to trade 2 roster players for picks to keep them compliant.
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They could still try and unload one depth piece to make room for Rasmus this year.
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