06-27-2025, 01:52 PM
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#3281
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by FlamesDraftPrognosticator
Thanks for sharing Jiri, I’m still surprised so many have Frondell top 3, he’s not a top 3 pick, probably not top 5 either.
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How so? 2nd highest PPG by a draft eligible in Allsvenskan history.
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06-27-2025, 02:03 PM
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#3282
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Franchise Player
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Shout out to cral12, Sandman, and the team at Upside Hockey. Won a complementary copy of their Draft Guide for sharing one of their articles, and I can't wait to check it out! Thank you for all of your hard work this season and enjoy the draft!
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06-27-2025, 02:07 PM
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#3283
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2023
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTech780
How so? 2nd highest PPG by a draft eligible in Allsvenskan history.
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The “high-end talent” just doesn’t quite measure up. His hands, passing, and offensive instincts aren’t elite, and defensively, his awareness and hockey IQ are a far cry from someone like Barkov—so that comparison feels like a stretch.
He does have a strong shot, no doubt, but he’s not really a play driver. Like I mentioned elsewhere, his game projects more like Nichushkin rather than anything close to Barkov’s level. That’s not 3rd overall material.
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06-27-2025, 02:12 PM
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#3284
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Backup Goalie
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JTech780
Second highest point per game by a draft eligible all time in the Allsvenskan, behind Elias Pettersson, ahead of William Nylander and David Pastrnak. I think you are really undervaluing how good Frondell is.
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No I’m not. Let’s watch what happens in the NHL, he’s not a point a game player like Nylander or Pettersson. I will go on record saying it, don’t draft him 3rd overall. Eklund probably helped his stock.
I haven’t watched enough of Martone and McQueen but definitely Hagens will be better than Frondell.
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06-27-2025, 02:14 PM
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#3285
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mile
Shout out to cral12, Sandman, and the team at Upside Hockey. Won a complementary copy of their Draft Guide for sharing one of their articles, and I can't wait to check it out! Thank you for all of your hard work this season and enjoy the draft!
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Our pleasure, Mile, man!
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06-27-2025, 02:15 PM
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#3286
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesDraftPrognosticator
No I’m not. Let’s watch what happens in the NHL, he’s not a point a game player like Nylander or Pettersson. I will go on record saying it, don’t draft him 3rd overall. Eklund probably helped his stock.
I haven’t watched enough of Martone and McQueen but definitely Hagens will be better than Frondell.
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Where there's smoke, there's fire. Sure seems like a lot of smoke with Frondell to SJS...
Hawks will run up to the podium to select Misa.
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06-27-2025, 02:17 PM
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#3287
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Sep 2023
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Originally Posted by simmer2
Where there's smoke, there's fire. Sure seems like a lot of smoke with Frondell to SJS...
Hawks will run up to the podium to select Misa.
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I’d be shocked if SJ goes for Frondell, especially with their recent exceptional draft history. That would be a big mistake.
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06-27-2025, 02:30 PM
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#3288
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamesDraftPrognosticator
I’d be shocked if SJ goes for Frondell, especially with their recent exceptional draft history. That would be a big mistake.
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I tend to agree. With my limited armchair scouting, I don't think Frondell has as nearly the offensive upside...but SJS could be looking at Celebrini passing the puck to Frondell for the one-timer and salivating.
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06-27-2025, 02:33 PM
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#3289
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by simmer2
I tend to agree. With my limited armchair scouting, I don't think Frondell has as nearly the offensive upside...but SJS could be looking at Celebrini passing the puck to Frondell for the one-timer and salivating.
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This. It’s about getting the right fit. The prospect videos posted a few days ago in the draft thread suggested Frondell’s one-timer might be the best they have seen since Ovechkin. That’s saying a lot when guys like Stamkos and Laine have come along since then.
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06-27-2025, 02:43 PM
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#3290
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Celebrini and Frondell down the middle would absolutely help the Sharks have a competitive 1-2 punch when eventually making the playoffs.
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06-27-2025, 04:07 PM
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#3291
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I hope for a miracle where the Flames land Frondell or Misa.
But it's just a dream.
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06-27-2025, 04:21 PM
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#3292
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I hope for a miracle where the Flames land Frondell or Misa.
But it's just a dream.
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My hope's for Misa in a huge move up scenario... and suppose it could get interesting...
If the Sharks don't take Misa, I don't know if Chicago does as I think they'll take Martone to play with Bedard.
So suddenly Flames should be all over Utah for #4 to get Misa. And gets even wilder if that doesn't pan out but Utah goes with Frondell/Hagens/Desnoyers/Eklund instead (becoming less likely).
The number of people saying it's a crapshoot after Schaefer makes it interesting at least!
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06-27-2025, 04:54 PM
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#3293
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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This board is going to lose it's collective fecal matter if the Flames don't A move up, or B draft a center with pick 18.
Thanks to Sandman and Cral12 and others for the prospect reports though out the year. It's always a day of optimism, and let's hope if the Flames to make two picks today that Crazy Bacon Legs initial prognostication comes to fruition.
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06-27-2025, 04:56 PM
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#3294
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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All the talk of NYI trying to trade up and draft Hagens tells me they may just take Hagens at 1 and then go for Aitchesen or Mtrka with the Habs picks.
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06-27-2025, 04:59 PM
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#3295
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
All the talk of NYI trying to trade up and draft Hagens tells me they may just take Hagens at 1 and then go for Aitchesen or Mtrka with the Habs picks.
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Nothing I have heard makes me think it won't be Schaefer
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06-27-2025, 05:06 PM
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#3296
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mile
Shout out to cral12, Sandman, and the team at Upside Hockey. Won a complementary copy of their Draft Guide for sharing one of their articles, and I can't wait to check it out! Thank you for all of your hard work this season and enjoy the draft!
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Thanks a ton, mile!
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06-27-2025, 05:07 PM
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#3297
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Yeah, them trading Dobson to me is a pretty strong tell that they're taking Schaefer.
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Patriots QB Tom Brady
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06-27-2025, 05:07 PM
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#3298
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
This board is going to lose it's collective fecal matter if the Flames don't A move up, or B draft a center with pick 18.
Thanks to Sandman and Cral12 and others for the prospect reports though out the year. It's always a day of optimism, and let's hope if the Flames to make two picks today that Crazy Bacon Legs initial prognostication comes to fruition.
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Thank you Sylvanfan!!
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06-27-2025, 05:19 PM
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#3299
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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This draft has the potential for more upset / off-the-board type picks than any in recent memory. Right now I'm taking every draft ranking with a grain of salt. I expect a lot of shocked faces when this first round is over.
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06-27-2025, 05:45 PM
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#3300
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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As super cool tool.
LFG, Connie and staff!
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