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Old 06-25-2025, 04:16 PM   #1
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The MOU has been released:
https://media.nhl.com/public/news/19116

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Old 06-25-2025, 04:22 PM   #2
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Edit: Nevermind, this doesn't seem to change much except for the rights to players drafted out of the CHL.
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Old 06-25-2025, 04:25 PM   #3
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That would be a significant change.

Under those rules I don't think a player like Trevor Hoskin would get drafted because his rights would expire before he was ready to go pro.
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Old 06-25-2025, 04:26 PM   #4
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Needed after the change and NIL potential
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Old 06-25-2025, 04:31 PM   #5
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that's a great decision, makes a ton of sense.
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Old 06-25-2025, 04:40 PM   #6
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Curious to what grandfathering, if any, there'll be.
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Old 06-25-2025, 04:53 PM   #7
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Still think there needs to be an additional rule that says "If a player is offered a maximum value ELC by his drafting team, that team retains his RFA rights even after this time period has concluded. After the expiry of the initial time period the player will be an RFA free to negotiate with other teams, but compensation would have to be provided."

So players can be come RFAs, but not full UFAs, which I think is fair. Because if a team offers the player the max ELC value it's because they want to keep him.
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Still think there needs to be an additional rule that says "If a player is offered a maximum value ELC by his drafting team, that team retains his RFA rights even after this time period has concluded. After the expiry of the initial time period the player will be an RFA free to negotiate with other teams, but compensation would have to be provided."

So players can be come RFAs, but not full UFAs, which I think is fair. Because if a team offers the player the max ELC value it's because they want to keep him.
So if the player's rights are traded before receiving an max value ELC, then he becomes a UFA instead of a RFA?
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Old 06-25-2025, 05:03 PM   #9
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Maybe I’m confused but this seems like it leaves the NCAA issue virtually as-is and encourages even more players to go NCAA.
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If this is true, then finally.
I was hoping for a system like the NFL and NBA for college players. You must declare eligibility for the draft which means you are leaving college
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No more going back into the draft after two years for CHL players?
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Old 06-25-2025, 05:25 PM   #12
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I was hoping for a system like the NFL and NBA for college players. You must declare eligibility for the draft which means you are leaving college
Why?

I'd much rather a player develop at a college than play in Biloxi, MS.
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Old 06-25-2025, 05:38 PM   #13
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Still think there needs to be an additional rule that says "If a player is offered a maximum value ELC by his drafting team, that team retains his RFA rights even after this time period has concluded. After the expiry of the initial time period the player will be an RFA free to negotiate with other teams, but compensation would have to be provided."

So players can be come RFAs, but not full UFAs, which I think is fair. Because if a team offers the player the max ELC value it's because they want to keep him.
At the very least, I think it would help if the team that holds the draft rights can offer a better contract. Give the team more flexibility for term, AAV, and bonuses if they hold the rights where as if they were a free agency signing, they could only get a standard ELC at league minimum.

Or make it so that if the team with draft rights offers them a max ELC and they turn it down, they are RFA until the following July before becoming a UFA. Don't take away the right for them to do it, just make it less enticing.
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Why?

I'd much rather a player develop at a college than play in Biloxi, MS.
Eliminates players who get drafted then wait out the college term and become a FA
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Old 06-25-2025, 05:50 PM   #15
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Also from the meetings

https://twitter.com/user/status/1938020724439982346
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Old 06-25-2025, 06:19 PM   #16
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per Friedman other things believed to be worked on:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...-on-cba-talks/

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• Dropping maximum-length contracts from eight years (your own player) to seven (another team’s free agent)

• Draft rights until age 22

• The ability for some first-round picks from the CHL to have AHL eligibility earlier than currently allowed. (Some believe it should be one per NHL club as opposed to first-rounders because not every team has a pick in that round, but no idea if that has any traction.)

• No more deferred-salary contracts

• Creation of a “permanent” EBUG to practise and travel with their NHL team

• A revenue-sharing tweak to help some of the more middle-class teams

Whatever the case, it shouldn’t be too long until we find out for sure.

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Eliminates players who get drafted then wait out the college term and become a FA
So you'd rather they rot in the ECHL?
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Old 06-25-2025, 06:25 PM   #18
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Where is the LTIR loophole closure? Without that the game is a fn joke.
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The Ahl eligibility just makes sense
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But

Deferred salary is only inflation predicting……(explaining for all you unwashed folk)
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