[Rumour] Flames and Andersson “not on the same page” for contract extension

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Ped

Sure, if you average it out. In his last 2 seasons (the two most recent ones) he's played at a 36 point pace. All my point was, you can't guarantee that he's a 40-50 point defenceman because for most of his career, he hasn't been. I didn't say he doesn't have value. I just don't think he's guaranteed to hit that.

It doesn't work that way - no one GUARANTEES anything.

GMs look at players on expectation, and they can very confidently write down Andersson as a 40 pt guy. Whether he ends up with 35, or 50, is a function of how the season plays out for the player and the team. But the EXPECTATION is black and white.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

We are talking about plus minus as an indication of defensive ability. Who is better defensively?

I wasn’t aware that is what we were talking about. While a flawed statistic, plus/minus has never been touted as a measure of defensive ability. The greatest plus/minus in the history of the game was posted by Bobby Orr, and not because he was the greatest defensive defenseman of all time. You get a plus when your team scores.

Anyway minus 38 doesn’t help the trade value for Rasmus and reflects that he had a sub par year for him. It doesn’t tell the whole story of course and it’s pretty obvious he will be highly coveted.

To answer your question, certainly Rasmus is better defensively than Bouchard.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I used to work with a cousin of Ekblad a few years back.
I just reached out and asked what the likely hood would be for him going to July 1 and he said “Aaron and Bill are working to keep him in Florida as we speak”

So take that FWIW.
I previously heard he wouldn’t be back but it sounds like they’re trying to 3peat in Florida.

I trust you as a source but don't believe the bolded part. That entire organization has been live streaming their bender for the last 4 days lol. They aren't working on anything right now!

[The Original FFIV]

Makes you wonder if the silence from our insiders means something is close to happening and they’ve been told to clam up. Will happen later today when I’m driving to Lions game I’m sure.

[Inferno]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1936441084361540021

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

I trust you as a source but don't believe the bolded part. That entire organization has been live streaming their bender for the last 4 days lol. They aren't working on anything right now!

I don't believe players are actually part of negotiations for the most part.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

I don't believe players are actually part of negotiations for the most part.

Yeah, I know. They've probably had some initial discussions prior as well. Was more just joking based on the videos I've been seeing over the week.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Ekblad has talked all playoffs he wants to stay. They have a legit shot at doing something special and 3peating.

[FlamesDraftPrognosticator]

Sorry Rasmus but it’s time for the Flames to move on. Hoping we can perhaps find a team willing to move picks in one of the next 2 drafts, we’ve stocked enough for the upcoming draft as is.

[saillias]

It's one thing to say 8 more years, I'm not ****ing leaving, etc when you're all drunk on both alcohol & euphoria from the win but Zito has to make the money actually work. When those guys look at the paycuts they have to take from their market rate they will probably have second thoughts. Not like Florida is the first team to end up in a cap crunch with important pieces from a cup win

[FlamesDraftPrognosticator]

The Sabres could be a strong trade partner, as they’re thin right-handed defensive group might push them to pay a premium for a quality RHD.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Lewis_D

I trust you as a source but don't believe the bolded part. That entire organization has been live streaming their bender for the last 4 days lol. They aren't working on anything right now!

Sorry, its not Ekblad himself talking but more so his agent(s) that are doing the talking.
I do get how what I said could come across as him personally talking.

Looks like there's more rumblings coming out hearing the same.
I think its very conceivable we see Bennett, Ekblad and Marchand all sign in Florida.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by FlamesDraftPrognosticator

The Sabres could be a strong trade partner, as they’re thin right-handed defensive group might push them to pay a premium for a quality RHD.

The problem is that the two teams don't match up particularly well.

Anderson likely doesn't waive for Buffalo, nor sign an extension there.

And Buffalo's trade chips (Peterka, Byram, 1st round pick) suggest they could trade for a much younger dman with control and/or term.

Anderson fits in better with a team who is a contender.

[Lewis_D]

Originally Posted by Royle9

Sorry, its not Ekblad himself talking but more so his agent(s) that are doing the talking.
I do get how what I said could come across as him personally talking.

Looks like there's more rumblings coming out hearing the same.
I think its very conceivable we see Bennett, Ekblad and Marchand all sign in Florida.

Oh I know, was just joking around about the panthers being drunk right now. Also wasn't actually doubting what you were told - I appreciate all the good info you provide us!

I also have a strong feeling they all re-sign, I think they have a legit shot at a 3peat.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Brz isn't a shutdown Dman in any sense of the word.

Grushnikov probably never plays more than a few NHL games. He's really not that good.

All around but looks capable of playing stay at home. I was impressed by his defensive poised.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Who is a better defenceman: -38 Rasmus or +14 Bouchard?

Roman Josi was -26

+/- might be the most flawed stat in the NHL. I skip over any discussion that takes it even remotely seriously.

[Icon]

I really hope Ekblad signs an extension before the draft, make Andersson the #1 dman available, dooooooo it.

[Reggie Dunlop]

A roster player and a B prospect.

That's what I think Conroy gets for Andersson.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by saillias

It's one thing to say 8 more years, I'm not ****ing leaving, etc when you're all drunk on both alcohol & euphoria from the win but Zito has to make the money actually work. When those guys look at the paycuts they have to take from their market rate they will probably have second thoughts. Not like Florida is the first team to end up in a cap crunch with important pieces from a cup win

Huberdeau also expected to stay in Florida and Zito told him after the playoffs that they would be reaching out to discuss a contract extension before he was traded. GMs say what they need to at the time.

[DreDayPucks]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1936561649160434105

Unsure how much trust I put in any “insider” here or on twitter. But figured to share.