06-20-2025, 12:01 PM
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#361
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Knut
Need to do what you can to retain Zary. Same with Frost. They are good at Zone entries. You need those players that can get the puck into the opposing zone consistently. Kadri is good at it too.
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They bring a lot to the table outside of goals and assists. And a lot of times it's those other areas of the game that leads to goals and assists for others. I agree with you, Zary and Frost are needed or replaced with equal or bette in those areas of the game.
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06-20-2025, 12:02 PM
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#362
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I know Peterka is a young prolific points producer but I'd still prefer to see the Flames use their available trade assets towards a center.
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I think we all agree on that one, but if the centers aren't available and an opportunity to upgrade on the wing presents itself, it's incumbent on Conroy to go down the path.
I don't think we we will be getting an upgrade at C in this market - there are too many buyers and not enough sellers. Maybe a chance to get someone from another team that is buried and may be able to pop in a different organization, but it's hard to envision a center that is available out there that is an immediate upgrade - may have to play the long game. Maybe that's the plus we can get in an Andersson deal.
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06-20-2025, 12:57 PM
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#363
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2019
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Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
I think we all agree on that one, but if the centers aren't available and an opportunity to upgrade on the wing presents itself, it's incumbent on Conroy to go down the path.
I don't think we we will be getting an upgrade at C in this market - there are too many buyers and not enough sellers. Maybe a chance to get someone from another team that is buried and may be able to pop in a different organization, but it's hard to envision a center that is available out there that is an immediate upgrade - may have to play the long game. Maybe that's the plus we can get in an Andersson deal.
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The lack of centre market is exactly why Conroy needs to do ANYTHING the sharks want for 2. Aside from the obvious untouchables.
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06-20-2025, 12:59 PM
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#364
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roko
The lack of centre market is exactly why Conroy needs to do ANYTHING the sharks want for 2. Aside from the obvious untouchables.
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Parekh is the only thing that is feasible as a base.
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06-20-2025, 01:01 PM
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#365
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I'd rather just use the picks then spending them on another winger.
I imagine that any Peterka deal would involve our 18th OA, which if we used would nail us our top organizational center prospect. Losing our top organizational center prospect for another winger doesn't make much sense to me unless they're truly elite.
Also keeping the picks means more assets in the system you can use for when the right center becomes available.
Unless it's an offer you can't refuse, I hope these picks aren't burning a hole in CC's pocket.
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06-20-2025, 01:04 PM
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#366
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Powerplay Quarterback
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It's an interesting conversation. Would you rather have Parehk or Misa. We do have alot more D options, and I would be way more content with re-signing Rasmus.
But it's arguable that Parehk has the higher ceiling.
I wonder if Coronato + Rasmus gets you in the conversation.
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06-20-2025, 01:06 PM
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#367
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roko
The lack of centre market is exactly why Conroy needs to do ANYTHING the sharks want for 2. Aside from the obvious untouchables.
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But why would SJ move the 2oa for anything other than the obvious untouchables.
The 2oa won’t be traded for a collection of stuff.
What they would want would be a very good, young cheap dman with lots of control. They don’t want a dman who’s best years will be behind him when they become good.
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06-20-2025, 01:08 PM
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#369
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by traptor
It's an interesting conversation. Would you rather have Parehk or Misa. We do have alot more D options, and I would be way more content with re-signing Rasmus.
But it's arguable that Parehk has the higher ceiling.
I wonder if Coronato + Rasmus gets you in the conversation.
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I’ll take Parekh as he progressed and he’s the only dman in the system with actual #1D upside.
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06-20-2025, 01:08 PM
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#370
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by traptor
I'd rather just use the picks then spending them on another winger.
I imagine that any Peterka deal would involve our 18th OA, which if we used would nail us our top organizational center prospect. Losing our top organizational center prospect for another winger doesn't make much sense to me unless they're truly elite.
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Except there's no guarantee the C drafted at 18 (if they pick a C) develops into a top 9, nevermind #1C for the Flames.
Whereas Peterka already has had a 68pt season in his 3rd year in the league.
Yes the Flames need a C.
The Flames also need upgrades throughout the rest of the lineup.
The future top C doesn't have to come from this year's draft, and may not even if that's the route they attempt.
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06-20-2025, 01:18 PM
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#371
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Knut
Need to do what you can to retain Zary. Same with Frost. They are good at Zone entries. You need those players that can get the puck into the opposing zone consistently. Kadri is good at it too.
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I agree with you on Zary and Frost, but not Kadri. Kadri is reckless with the puck at both blue lines and on either side of the offensive blue line. Zary seemingly always makes the smart play when he has the puck inside the other team's blue line, whereas Kadri tries to do too much and often gives it away, leading to a scoring opportunity going the other way.
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06-20-2025, 01:30 PM
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#372
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Farm Team Player
Join Date: Apr 2019
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I feel like we are undervaluing how much the sharks want to take a step forward next year. They need vets with swagger and strong D to fill the gap. Rasmus is a perfect fit there. Grier is going to start adding, they have a huge cupboard of prospects.
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06-20-2025, 01:32 PM
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#373
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Originally Posted by traptor
I'd rather just use the picks then spending them on another winger.
I imagine that any Peterka deal would involve our 18th OA, which if we used would nail us our top organizational center prospect. Losing our top organizational center prospect for another winger doesn't make much sense to me unless they're truly elite.
Also keeping the picks means more assets in the system you can use for when the right center becomes available.
Unless it's an offer you can't refuse, I hope these picks aren't burning a hole in CC's pocket.
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I generally agree with you. However, what if we use our current picks to grab this elite winger, and then trade Rasmus to acquire picks in the first and second to recoup what was traded for said winger? Just thinking outloud.
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06-20-2025, 01:32 PM
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#374
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Roko
I feel like we are undervaluing how much the sharks want to take a step forward next year. They need vets with swagger and strong D to fill the gap. Rasmus is a perfect fit there. Grier is going to start adding, they have a huge cupboard of prospects.
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They don’t need to pay the second overall to do it though.
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06-20-2025, 01:36 PM
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#375
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by aaronkarlpatton
I generally agree with you. However, what if we use our current picks to grab this elite winger, and then trade Rasmus to acquire picks in the first and second to recoup what was traded for said winger? Just thinking outloud.
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Forsure, and with everything, it comes down to cost.
if it was just 18th oa for Peterka then all day. That's just really good value.
I just feel like he could potentially demand alot (Even more then we would recoup from Rasmus) and I'm not sure I feel comfortable paying that.
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06-20-2025, 01:36 PM
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#376
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by Roko
I feel like we are undervaluing how much the sharks want to take a step forward next year. They need vets with swagger and strong D to fill the gap. Rasmus is a perfect fit there. Grier is going to start adding, they have a huge cupboard of prospects.
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2oa for Rasmus + Coronato.
Do you do it?
Sharks get immediately better, but Coronato is still a really good young piece.
CGY doesn't lose Wolf or Parehk and gets a shot at a franchise C
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06-20-2025, 01:39 PM
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#377
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by traptor
2oa for Rasmus + Coronato.
Do you do it?
Sharks get immediately better, but Coronato is still a really good young piece.
CGY doesn't lose Wolf or Parehk and gets a shot at a franchise C
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In a heartbeat, but it’s not enough.
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06-20-2025, 01:39 PM
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#378
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roko
The lack of centre market is exactly why Conroy needs to do ANYTHING the sharks want for 2. Aside from the obvious untouchables.
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The Flames have Kadri, Frost, Backlund for next year. Unless this is the only draft that has centers and unless #2 is the only place you can get a center I am not sure Conroy needs to do ANYTHING to get that pick.
Next year has Mathis Preston, Viggo Bjork, Olivers Murnieks, Ryan Roobroeck, Tynan Lawrence. Maybe those centers can be good.
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06-20-2025, 01:42 PM
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#379
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traptor
2oa for Rasmus + Coronato.
Do you do it?
Sharks get immediately better, but Coronato is still a really good young piece.
CGY doesn't lose Wolf or Parehk and gets a shot at a franchise C
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San Jose doesn't touch that deal, but yes absolutely we do that deal every time. Then trade other assets for Peterka and the team is instantly better.
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06-20-2025, 01:45 PM
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#380
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Powerplay Quarterback
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how much would we add. Lets go crazy here
Rasmus + Coronato + 18th + 32nd for 2nd OA
Coronato is a blue chip young player. Rasmus is a top pairing D, and x2 1sts.
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