Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

Still, he needed to rise above that, we need someone who is a unifier and deliberately deriding her was poor form. Of course he’s not gonna win any of her supporters votes, but that’s not the end game here, it’s to be an actual leader.

In the end likely not a big deal, but it’s an unnecessary own goal.

I disagree. I liked it. He acknowledges reality, gives props where they are due, and calls out the right-wing MAGAt press tour. He clearly demonstrates what a PP shill she is, and warns that this is what people will get with PP. No busboobs supporter will vote for Carney, so it is a no-lose. And he shows a sense of humor. I think this was well played.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Still doesn't answer the question on why more Canadians prefer Liberal over Conservatives even after all this "last 9 years".


Cons ####ed this up real bad. Got nothing to blame but themselves. Who are we kidding though, they'll blame this on the lib/left/wokeness too.

Especially when the biggest Province and voting base in Canada (Ontario) just re-elected a Conservative Government.

It's the CPC's brand of Conservatism that people dislike.

[Fuzz]

To be clear, Smith is the one who has shown nothing but disrespect for Carney since he arrived. She has never had any intention of working with him, or giving him a chance. So Carney takes a shot at her? Boo ####ing hoo. Welcome to the game. And to then claim misogyny? Get a ####ing clue, you ####. Sit down and shut up.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Yoho

If the polls are any indication CPC have the right guy.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1692536832456614118

I was just happily plunked onto an old page where this was chilling. Good times.

[Cappy]

LPC has a decent chance of flipping a few Alberta seats. There are about 4-5 battleground ridings this election in Calgary/Edmonton.

Some of that is surely due to Trump/Tariffs, but i do think Smith is so polarizing that it is pushing some that way as well.

I don't see anything wrong with making fun of Smith's "negotiations" with the US. It likely courts voters in AB.

Smith will always be antagonistic towards the LPC/Carney. No loss there

[TheIronMaiden]

I think a liberal majority is the best thing for a smith 2nd term. She can weaponize Albertan angst. With the CPC in power she has no one to deflect blame to.

[StickMan]

https://www.voronoiapp.com/economy/-...ince-2014-4553

Key Takeaways:
-Canada saw only 1.1% growth in real GDP per capita between 2014–2024
-It’s the worst performer in this dataset of 37 major economies
-It's second-worst among the 38 OECD economies, after Luxembourg.

For comparison, real per capita GDP in the G7, EU, and OECD grew 15% over the same period.

Mark Carney has been economic advisor to the liberals since 2020.

[woob]

What the heck website is that?

[Looch City]

Originally Posted by StickMan

https://www.voronoiapp.com/economy/-...ince-2014-4553

Key Takeaways:
-Canada saw only 1.1% growth in real GDP per capita between 2014–2024
-It’s the worst performer in this dataset of 37 major economies
-It's second-worst among the 38 OECD economies, after Luxembourg.

For comparison, real per capita GDP in the G7, EU, and OECD grew 15% over the same period.

Mark Carney has been economic advisor to the liberals since 2020.

It ain't gonna stop him from winning bro. Gotta do better than that!

You should be asking, why is PP is bad?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by woob

What the heck website is that?

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/visual-capitalist-bias/

Seems legit.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by StickMan

https://www.voronoiapp.com/economy/-...ince-2014-4553

Key Takeaways:
-Canada saw only 1.1% growth in real GDP per capita between 2014–2024
-It’s the worst performer in this dataset of 37 major economies
-It's second-worst among the 38 OECD economies, after Luxembourg.

For comparison, real per capita GDP in the G7, EU, and OECD grew 15% over the same period.

Mark Carney has been economic advisor to the liberals since 2020.

Accepting that at face value. How do you know that Trudeau took Carney's advise? Just because someone provides advise doesn't mean the decision maker follows it.

[GioforPM]

We ain't so bad. Canada has better GDP per capita than Germany, Finland, HK, UK, NZ, UAR, France, Italy, Spain, Japan, SK, Saudi Arabia...

It's 10th in the world's share of overall GDP. Better GDP growth than most countries including EU countries (most higher have much smaller economies and their grwoth/decline is a lot more volatile).

https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-by-country/

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

Accepting that at face value. How do you know that Trudeau took Carney's advise? Just because someone provides advise doesn't mean the decision maker follows it.

Considering that Trudeau offered Carney the official role of Finance Minister it is very likely that whatever advice was being given resonated with Trudeau.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

Environmental extremists seem to be short of common sense e.g. Guilbeault's sudden change from net 2035 to 2050, when he heard that Carney was coming aboard.

Another example of environmental short sightedness was Butt's Green Energy program in Ontario where they handed out contracts to farmers who built solar panels at $ .85 a kilowatt for 20 years. The cost of power got so high that some people had to choose between eating and staying warm.

Do you eve have the faintest understanding of what the word extremist means?

Those are examples of management decisions that were not good, but they are not examples of blockading coal powerplants, blowing up pipelines, chaining themselves to trees... the word extremism means something, and Poilievre's loose association with facts when it comes to naming his political opponents reactions don't change those facts. Those guys are not extremists, and jumping to that characterization as a way to deflect from needing to argue their policies on the merits gives up the game, you don't think there is a merit based argument, it is just fear of change and cherry picked data. You know that $0.85/kwh solar was a bad deal, but you also know that in Alberta in particular solar is the cheapest possible form of new energy installation and you are deflecting from that.

Also think even calling them extremists in itself is not the attack you think it is, sometime extreme action is required. If Canadians en-mass decided to blockade Trumps access to Kananaskis, that would be the actions of extremists, but I think there is an argument that it would a sensible choice for people to make.

[PepsiFree]

Carney was an informal advisor regarding Canada’s economic approach to the COVID pandemic, and then came on as chair of the economic growth task force in September 2024.

He was also in charge of Canada’s monetary policy through the global recession, and England’s through Brexit. Not sure if conservatives are stupid or just don’t know how to win an argument without lying, but it just looks pathetic at this point. They’d be kissing his feet if his signs were blue.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Considering that Trudeau offered Carney the official role of Finance Minister it is very likely that whatever advice was being given resonated with Trudeau.

Or whatever items Trudeau wouldn’t follow is why he refused the job.

We don’t really know, we know Freeland quit because she refused to continue to tow the line.

We won’t know until the first budget.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Not sure if conservatives are stupid or just don’t know how to win an argument without lying...

[Blaster86]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Racist, English-washing the beautiful Spanish.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by StickMan

https://www.voronoiapp.com/economy/-...ince-2014-4553

Key Takeaways:
-Canada saw only 1.1% growth in real GDP per capita between 2014–2024
-It’s the worst performer in this dataset of 37 major economies
-It's second-worst among the 38 OECD economies, after Luxembourg.

For comparison, real per capita GDP in the G7, EU, and OECD grew 15% over the same period.

Mark Carney has been economic advisor to the liberals since 2020.

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Considering that Trudeau offered Carney the official role of Finance Minister it is very likely that whatever advice was being given resonated with Trudeau.

Or he didn't take it because Trudeau wouldn't listen.

I don't know what the answer is, but it's foolish to think that Carney=Trudeau.

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Not sure if conservatives are stupid or just don’t know how to win an argument without lying, but it just looks pathetic at this point. They’d be kissing his feet if his signs were blue.

I can only imagine what Conservative supporters would be saying if their party's leader had multiple degrees in economics from Harvard and Oxford and whose previous professional experience included being the chief economist of two different nations while his opponent was someone who never had a "real" job other than being a career politician.