The Playoff Hunt. Flames Vs Wild Vs Blues

[dino7c]

at any rate we have another LEGIT meaningful game to watch tomorrow night

[Samonadreau]

If you squint hard enough, Flames still have a chance if they can gain some ground before next Friday and then win against Minny in regulation.

[Robbob]

I don't think you have to squint. I posted the path earlier, if they can get to the Apr 11th head to head game with a few things happening then that game will be the opportunity to get back into the serious contention for a WC spot.

CGY has games LV, @SJ, @ANA
MIN has games DAL, SJ

If the Flames go 2-1 and the Wild go 1-1 it will bring the magic number down to 5 against the wild. I don't think either of those results would be a long shot.

Now a Flames win in that H2H in regulation and suddenly the magic number for Flames wins and Wild losses goes down to 3 with Flames having 3 games left and the Wild 2.

[united]

The Athletic’s update after last night. Nice to see the Flames gain some ground on a day off. Also, the Blues are now officially ahead of the Wild in their model.

- The Flames are at 17% (+4%) to make playoffs.
- The Flames' median finish is 91 points, 5 points out of the playoffs assuming the Wild hold the tie-breaker.
- The Flames are most likely to pick 16th overall (-).
- The Flames are projected to finish 8 points out of the top 10 (illustrative only as cannot finish top 10 at this point).

Tough night for the Golden Knights who are now projected to get the Blues in the first round rather than the Wild.

[ken0042]

Another simple formula for the Flames to make it:

- Win the game against the Wild.
- Aside from that game, have the same number of losses as the Wild (or fewer.)

[topfiverecords]

The simplest formula. Beat Min in regulation and go 7-0. Nothing else matters then.

[Goriders]

Going to have to get some help. Probably can’t lose again.

You never know.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Mathgod

Hmm. If the Flames get 95 points and miss, while the Habs make it with 90 or fewer points, I'm going to have a hard time being convinced that there shouldn't be a crossover spot.

Our boys taking on Ovi & the Caps in round 1 sounds a lot more exciting than early tee times.

I don't think travel is as much an issue as some make it out to be. As long as there's travel between the cities no more than twice during the series.

It’s a big issue to the players. The NHLPA wouldn’t approve any change in playoff format that substantially increased travel the way 1 vs 16 would. Players in a WAS vs NJ series spend very little time travelling, and are seeing their families and sleeping in their own beds every night. That would not be the case in a WAS vs CGY series.

[united]

The Athletic daily. One point against an elite Golden Knights team is always a result to be proud of but unfortunately the Flames are at the point where anything aside from a win hurts.

- The Flames are at 11% (-6%) to make playoffs.
- The Flames' median finish is 92 points (+1), 4 points (-1) out of the playoffs assuming the Wild hold the tie-breaker.
- The Flames are most likely to pick 16th overall (-).
- The Flames are projected to finish 10 points out of the top 10 (illustrative only as cannot finish top 10 at this point).

[Goriders]

I think if the flames had 1 more legit scorer they would probably have 10 more points right now. Every game is a one goal game. 20 to 30 more goals easily would have got them 5 more wins or 3 more wins and 4 more OT wins.

I think they were counting on Sharangovich and Kuzmenko providing those goals. It just didn’t work out.

I mapped out all of the remaining games a few weeks ago and figured the flames would get in by a point. St. Louis is not following what I thought would happen but the Flames and Minnesota more or less are. I had the Flames winning the Vegas game.

Problem with last night is I think they will end up tied not. They are going to have to either win or get a point out of one of the vegas or LA road games in my mind. The Minnesota game is a must win.

Think 5-1 or 4-1-1 could do it. I think minnesota will go 2-3.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Goriders

I think if the flames had 1 more legit scorer they would probably have 10 more points right now. Every game is a one goal game. 20 to 30 more goals easily would have got them 5 more wins or 3 more wins and 4 more OT wins.

I think they were counting on Sharangovich and Kuzmenko providing those goals. It just didn’t work out.

I mapped out all of the remaining games a few weeks ago and figured the flames would get in by a point. St. Louis is not following what I thought would happen but the Flames and Minnesota more or less are. I had the Flames winning the Vegas game.

Problem with last night is I think they will end up tied not. They are going to have to either win or get a point out of one of the vegas or LA road games in my mind. The Minnesota game is a must win.

Think 5-1 or 4-1-1 could do it. I think minnesota will go 2-3.

Clearly they need to add talent up front, and one more scorer would have helped.

But don't look past the fact that they don't have the defense to transition the puck up the ice.

I thought that meant no chance at playoffs.

I didn't think that would mean they stiffen up defensively, get great goaltending and grind it out.

And all of it at 5 on 5. No transition. No ability to sustain offence without offensive zone face offs (and winning them)

The Flames are .444 goals per game less at five on five.

[D as in David]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

If you squint hard enough, Flames still have a chance if they can gain some ground before next Friday and then win against Minny in regulation.

I can see the potential for the Minnie game being tied late in the third and the Flames needing to pull their goalie in regulation. Pure excitement!

[Samonadreau]

Minny beats Stars, up 6 pts now. Flames 2 games in hand but need to beat Minny ourtright in points.

If Flames win out , they are at 97 points. They win out and they probably get in. Anything less and they need some help in OOT.

Either way they for sure need to win the next 3 included regulation win against Minny on Friday. And then see where things stand from there.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Dallas on the back to back probably contributed to that collapse.

So close to being in a great position.....

Now we need the Canucks, Ducks or Sharks to do us a favor, as well as beating minny ourselves.

[Goriders]

Dallas did not help.

Beat us when outshot 100-10

Lost to Minnesota who had lost 6 out of 7

Thanks a lot.

[Mr.Coffee]

I think it’s curtains for Calgary now. Oh well. Cool they were in it.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

Dallas on the back to back probably contributed to that collapse.

So close to being in a great position.....

Now we need the Canucks, Ducks or Sharks to do us a favor, as well as beating minny ourselves.

We need to assume Calgary beats Minny on Friday or it’s over.

So, we need Canuck’s , Ducks and Sharks to win 2 out of 3, or Calgary needs to go 4-0-1 in their other 5 games if Wild goes 2-1.

[Roof-Daddy]

Stars are 7-1-2 in their last 10 and 3rd overall in the league, of course they would lose to the only team we had any hope of catching today.

[Kidder]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Stars are 7-1-2 in their last 10 and 3rd overall in the league, of course they would lose to the only team we had any hope of catching today.

Well hopefully now they finish 2nd and Colorado can take them out in round one.

A win today and they controlled their fate for 1st.

[Caged Great]

The Flames basically need to win out, and have the wild drop one of the remaining games.

We'll see how things stand when it comes time to actually play them.

Doubtful the game will be important by then.