Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Did you weight the questions after? I think both of mine were equal at around 86% before I weighted the questions. Obviously it’s very dependent on the questions they provided, as there are some things left out that I think the NDP could move further left on (or at least take more seriously) and there’s some questions like “should there be more government workers” which I don’t really think is a logical question at all as it’s a result, not a cause, so it seems silly that the NDP said yes.

Also makes it even funnier watching people call guys like Rube “far left” lol.

Yeah, after I weighted it I ended up with like 88%/87%. I think my support for the Monarchy knocked me down a peg with them

I get a laugh whenever someone comes on claiming how "left wing" this board is. Always seemed pretty centric to me and the results people are posting seems to confirm it.

[Muta]

Originally Posted by belsarius

I get a laugh whenever someone comes on claiming how "left wing" this board is. Always seemed pretty centric to me and the results people are posting seems to confirm it.

'Left wing' is what the right likes to call anyone who isn't them, even though most CPers, Canadians, and likely humans in general overall, fall directly in the centre or in the immediate orbit of the centre.

[troutman]

I’m up by the GPC icon.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Conservatives promising no GST on all new homes up to $1.3M.
Liberal announcement was for first time buyers only and $1M cap.
One upmanship is well underway.

[Ace]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Conservatives promising no GST on all new homes up to $1.3M.
Liberal announcement was for first time buyers only and $1M cap.
One upmanship is well underway.

I wonder how many "first time homebuyers" are purchasing close to a $ million. That's got to be a pretty small population. I always found "first time" homebuyer restrictions weird. Just 'cause someone bought a cheap condo 20 years ago, why shouldn't they be able to use the (first time) homebuyers benefit when upgrading.

[spetch]

A bit out in no-man’s land, but definitely right where I thought I would be

Spoiler!

[troutman]

The average home price in Toronto is over $1 million. Vancouver even more.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Ace

I wonder how many "first time homebuyers" are purchasing close to a $ million. That's got to be a pretty small population. I always found "first time" homebuyer restrictions weird. Just 'cause someone bought a cheap condo 20 years ago, why shouldn't they be able to use the (first time) homebuyers benefit when upgrading.

Because it’s to incentivize and better enable people to enter the housing market and create more homeowners, which means more people are gaining equity that weren’t before.

The person who bought a condo 20 years ago already has a sizeable advantage and benefits beyond someone who has never owned a home.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Locke

Oh, so you selected the option to eat the Indigenous people and pave the Reservations huh? That was an 'out there' question, but they've got to be representative I guess.



So you're saying that....if, hypothetically, you were to kiss Worf, your moustache would touch his?

This is a critically defining piece of information.

Not only that, but harassing immigrants, going to schools and harassing children.

Make Canada Great Again

[GGG]

Originally Posted by Ace

I wonder how many "first time homebuyers" are purchasing close to a $ million. That's got to be a pretty small population. I always found "first time" homebuyer restrictions weird. Just 'cause someone bought a cheap condo 20 years ago, why shouldn't they be able to use the (first time) homebuyers benefit when upgrading.

The reason is because they have been part of the run up in home prices and therefore have lower barriers to the next house than someone starting from scratch.

With constant demand reducing GST for all buyers just increases sale price.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

Conservatives promising no GST on all new homes up to $1.3M.
Liberal announcement was for first time buyers only and $1M cap.
One upmanship is well underway.

I know 5% is not insignificant, but… is it really a huge deal? It doesn’t seem like it really pushes the affordability factor much.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I can't help but think that the CBC is making everyone seem close to the liberals. It did for me even though I agreed with Green Party Policy more than anyone else's.

Originally Posted by Fuzz

The CBC doesn't make it, they just host it.

Methodology:

https://www.voxpoplabs.com/votecompass/methodology.pdf


It isn't designed to force anything, just show your alignment to the parties. So if it is showing odd things like you say, you could click through your alignment by issues, and if it is a discrepancy, maybe report it?

I think you also need to keep in mind that, generally, the NDP and Green policies skew to the far end of the evaluation scale. Most times they are either Strongly Agree or Strongly Disagree.

Unless you land exactly where they are on a particular issue, the platform likely plunks you more towards the center.

I'm at 86/81% Agree with the Green/NDP respectively, but fall just left of the Liberals (who have also drifted center).

It's interesting to see just how far right the CPC have become over the years, to the point their social progressiveness is almost entirely null.

[cheevers]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I know 5% is not insignificant, but… is it really a huge deal? It doesn’t seem like it really pushes the affordability factor much.

I know nothing about real estate, but I wonder if it doesn't lower housing costs a little bit. Would a seller want to list at 999,999 instead of 1.1 or so in order to help it move as then it would qualify for no tax? Wonder if Winsor had any thoughts on it as a realtor.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Right, so most likely he's just holding out until he is elected and gets it without the review? Which means he's deathly afraid of Canadians finding out about whatever it is he's hiding. Now I really want to know, and I think all Canadians should know what he is afraid of us learning about him. It would be irresponsible to vote for someone like that.

That's the thing, it's all confidential so no one never finds out the details. So if that's what's driving this, he must think there's a good chance he's not going to even get the clearance.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I know 5% is not insignificant, but… is it really a huge deal? It doesn’t seem like it really pushes the affordability factor much.

It wouldn't really improve affordability at all if it's an across the board thing like the Conservatives are suggesting, at least directly. GST is only charged on newly built units, so in order to compete with existing stock, currently they have to be priced lower to account for the GST charge.

Where it could theoretically impact things is by improving builders' margins, since they can now sell newly built units for a similar price to existing ones. That could lead to more housing construction. But for the construction of units that are already viable, chances are they'd just pocket the difference.

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Wormius

I know 5% is not insignificant, but… is it really a huge deal? It doesn’t seem like it really pushes the affordability factor much.

There’s nothing to stop builders from just tacking that on to the price of the home. So new buyers save nothing.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I can't help but think that the CBC is making everyone seem close to the liberals. It did for me even though I agreed with Green Party Policy more than anyone else's.

If anything, it is showing that people are centrist, that the Liberals were wrong to shift up/left towards the NDP under Trudeau and that the Conservatives are moving farther towards the PPC. Basically what numerous people perceived.

It shows that the Liberals are doing the right thing in moving more down and right from where they were under Trudeau, more towards where most people are.

[Swift]

Originally Posted by opendoor

That's the thing, it's all confidential so no one never finds out the details. So if that's what's driving this, he must think there's a good chance he's not going to even get the clearance.

Is it possible that he has already applied at some point in the past few years and was denied the clearance? Would a denial be made public or be made available to the other leaders?

[Lubicon]

Vote Compass put me squarely in the middle, leaning slightly closer to the CPC than Liberals which is pretty accurate. Both parties have policies I agree with, both have policies I strongly oppose or disagree with. Politically I feel I'm in a no man's land - no party really represents me. This could the toughest election for me to decide on who to vote for and I've been voting federally since 1988. Normally it's pretty cut and dried, it's easy to disqualify most parties based on their stance on the issue of the day (for me). This time around there are several issues of importance to me and no party has policies that I am fully in agreement on all of them.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Thought I'd be a little more left, but it's damn near centered



Guess I'm one of the rare ones who want more pipelines AND support for the LGBTQ community

I came out just a tick further south on this graph, about equally far left.

If you turn it to the identity markers, I was actually about 30% to the right, because I weight my results, and I gave the transgender and native stuff a rating to 0 to me personally, truthfully I think the fact that some people would vote based on their desire to oppress a sub-minority group, but if I'm also being honest those those really weigh on my voting choices, it's trust and economy and sustainability, and sadly there might only be 1 option that is serious about any combination of those three (hint they aren't orange or blue)