Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Azure]

Shocking that you wouldn't like a poll that shows the Liberals further ahead than the poll your poll aggregator you posted. Shocking.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by Azure

Shocking that you wouldn't like a poll that shows the Liberals further ahead than the poll your poll aggregator you posted. Shocking.

Still crying about losing the 30 point lead? hahahahaha

[calgarygeologist]

A scathing piece by a hardcore Liberal regarding Carney's move to bring in Mendicino.

If Mark Carney’s political instincts are to be judged by his first day on the job as Liberal leader, the Grits may be in for a rough ride.
On Monday, Carney marched into transition meetings with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau on Parliament Hill with a well-known personality at his side: Liberal MP Marco Mendicino.
The move more than raised eyebrows. It was met within and outside the Liberal caucus with shock, outrage, disappointment, anger, feelings of betrayal and bewilderment at how the prime minister-designate would be willing to waste political capital on what’s expected to be a short-term appointment as Carney’s interim chief of staff.

“It was a really poor decision,” one Liberal MP told the Star. “Idiotic,” said another. “What a misstep,” said a third. All spoke to the Star on the condition they not be named.
The concern for some is that Mendicino, the former public safety minister who was turfed from Trudeau’s cabinet in the summer of 2023, would illustrate too much closeness to the Trudeau regime and feed into the Conservatives’ narrative that there is no daylight between Carney and the prime minister.

Within the caucus, there is also a sense shared by many that Mendicino wasn’t a strong minister, that he frequently bungled files, and that he isn’t known for organizational skills that would make him a good administrator.
Within hours of Mendicino’s appointment, the Conservatives were on full attack mode on social media, accentuating the criticisms. “Mark Carney’s Chief of Staff is none other than Trudeau’s ex-Public Safety/Immigration Minister, Marco Mendicino. He’s the guy forced to resign after he: — Moved mass murderer & serial rapist Paul Bernardo out of a maximum-security prison; — Allowed gun crimes to surge 116%; — Did nothing to stop Beijing’s foreign interference in Canada’s democracy; — Helped Trudeau break our immigration system,” Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre posted on X.
“Nothing has changed. Do these guys really deserve a fourth term?”
Some of the criticism was legitimate, while some was exaggerated or fabricated. The most notable controversy involved Mendicino saying his office was kept in the dark about serial rapist and murderer Paul Bernardo’s transfer from a maximum-security institution to a medium-security prison. When it later emerged his staff had been informed, he insisted he personally hadn’t been told.
Those criticisms may be inside the Ottawa bubble, but others are reverberating off Parliament Hill.

The National Council of Canadian Muslims (NCCM) is calling for Mendicino to be removed from his position. “We are concerned that he lacks the appropriate judgment,” said NCCM spokeswoman Reem Sheet.
Mendicino, the MP for Eglinton–Lawrence, was very vocal on the Israel-Palestine issue. When he announced in January that he would not run for another term, he pointed to his disagreement with the government’s foreign policy “vis-à-vis our deteriorating relations with the State of Israel.”
Among the NCCM’s concerns are social media posts that Mendicino shared from Meir Weinstein, a past leader of the Jewish Defense League (JDL), which the Southern Poverty Law Center describes as a “radical organization that preaches a violent form of anti-Arab Jewish nationalism.” Mendicino was asked to remove the posts by the NCCM and hasn’t.
The NCCM also condemns some of his positions in Parliament, his lack of support for the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (which works with Palestinians and has faced calls that it be defunded after a small number of its staff were found to have participated in the Oct. 7 attacks against Israel), and his opposition to a ceasefire in Gaza.
Reached Tuesday, Mendicino politely declined to comment. He cited an afternoon of meetings as the Carney team was busy sorting out its new cabinet and ministerial portfolios, but he also declined to send a written statement, as did Carney’s office.
On X, Mendicino said he disagreed with calls “for Israel to agree to what is, effectively, an unconditional ceasefire. At present, that would only place in further jeopardy the safety and security of Israelis & Palestinians in Gaza,” he said of a December 2023 UN vote.

Sheet believes Mendicino is unfit to be Carney’s right-hand man. She called the appointment a “loud” statement “to Muslims, in particular, but also to Canada about where Carney stands on combating violence and hate in Canada.
She also suggested Mendicino’s appointment “will definitely jeopardize the Liberal party’s relationship with Muslims, especially after years of trying to build it.”
The NCCM has started a letter-writing campaign, and a few MPs are starting to hear from constituents. One letter viewed by the Star expressed “deep concerns” regarding Mendicino’s appointment. “I, along with all Canadians, believe that this role demands impeccable judgment, impartiality, and an unwavering commitment to human rights, international law, and the unity of our country,” wrote one person. “These qualities are not reflected in MP Mendicino’s shameful record … As someone who became a member of the Liberal party due to the new future that Mr. Carney resembled, I feel betrayed by this ill-advised decision.”
For a man who loves a hockey analogy, perhaps Carney will come to realize that this was an own goal.

https://archive.ph/4uVkP

[Johnny Makarov]

Did you copy that from your rightwing batcrap crazy site?

Did you ever find out who rented that cadillac limo for Carney??haha loser

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Did you copy that from your rightwing batcrap crazy site?

Did you ever find out who rented that cadillac limo for Carney??haha loser

Click the link and find out. I dare you to do it.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

Click the link and find out. I dare you to do it.

Pass. not falling for that crap again. You brought us to racist twitter by some rightwing moron last time. lol

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Azure

Shocking that you wouldn't like a poll that shows the Liberals further ahead than the poll your poll aggregator you posted. Shocking.

I look at all the data, not just one or two cherry picked polls.

[Torture]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1899624449722155447

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Azure

Shocking that you wouldn't like a poll that shows the Liberals further ahead than the poll your poll aggregator you posted. Shocking.

Innovative Research also has the lowest grade on the aggregator. Take that for what it's worth.

Conservatives last week were crowing because Leger supposedly showed that the "Carney honeymoon was over," only to watch it swing wildly back in the Liberals favour.

[Slava]

I saw Poilievre say that the Liberals are just using Trump to distract voters. Can he possibly be that tone deaf? Does he not speak to anyone about anything? I think no matter your political stripe and thoughts, the US is the only issue that matters now. No one cares about the “wokeism” (although I’d love to see that be the main platform they run on), and things like carbon taxes are just non-starters.

And, when he does talk about the US, he seems to want to blame this all on the Liberals for putting us in the position to be bullied and attacked. Good luck with that strategy.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

The polling is going to be insanely swingy for the next while. Almost not even worth looking at it at the moment, it's wild.

[Whynotnow]

All I know is that Trump may well be a liberal plant. There was only one path to a potential liberal victory and Trump has done it almost perfectly. I’m honestly torn, I don’t think the Liberals have earned the right to form another government, even with a new leader. The cons though have chosen a terrible leader and so want to run to the MAGA way of things. In the end the liberals are likely the lesser of two evils but I can’t shake the feeling of what that will also do to fuel western alienation.

I want neither to win is the conclusion.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Slava

I saw Poilievre say that the Liberals are just using Trump to distract voters. Can he possibly be that tone deaf? Does he not speak to anyone about anything? I think no matter your political stripe and thoughts, the US is the only issue that matters now. No one cares about the “wokeism” (although I’d love to see that be the main platform they run on), and things like carbon taxes are just non-starters.

And, when he does talk about the US, he seems to want to blame this all on the Liberals for putting us in the position to be bullied and attacked. Good luck with that strategy.

Totally. It matters to his base but not to the broad cross-section of Canadians. But hey - Canada First!

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

Pass. not falling for that crap again. You brought us to racist twitter by some rightwing moron last time. lol

Spoiler alert its the Toronto Star. Hahaha!!!726muhhaaaauha

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

All I know is that Trump may well be a liberal plant. There was only one path to a potential liberal victory and Trump has done it almost perfectly. I’m honestly torn, I don’t think the Liberals have earned the right to form another government, even with a new leader. The cons though have chosen a terrible leader and so want to run to the MAGA way of things. In the end the liberals are likely the lesser of two evils but I can’t shake the feeling of what that will also do to fuel western alienation.

I want neither to win is the conclusion.

If you live in Alberta your representative or at least which party they belong to is most likely already decided on so don’t sweat over who you vote for.

[Whynotnow]

Originally Posted by iggy_oi

If you live in Alberta your representative or at least which party they belong to is most likely already decided on so don’t sweat over who you vote for.

I have never once in my life approached the ballot box this way, and won’t now.

[Jason14h]

But don’t stress !

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

I have never once in my life approached the ballot box this way, and won’t now.

Why not now?

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

I have never once in my life approached the ballot box this way, and won’t now.

That’s fine I’m just worried that you’re going to give yourself an ulcer.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Whynotnow

In the end the liberals are likely the lesser of two evils but I can’t shake the feeling of what that will also do to fuel western alienation.

*Alberta alienation

Don't lump the rest of us in with Alberta's brand of grievance politics.