[News] Flames do not make any trades on trade deadline day

[Paulie Walnuts]

He said 2 year retention deals came into play but they didn't want to do it.

Wonder if he is talking about Carlo.

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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He said 2 year retention deals came into play but they didn't want to do it.

Wonder if he is talking about Carlo.

Yeah probably Pittsburgh's role in that one.

[Jiggy_12]

When grading this, I would personally be including the Frost/Farabee trade in the whole scope.

Given that, B+ overall for me.

We have 20 more games with this lineup, and then the ability to make additional trades. We did not lose any draft picks. Everything is still on track as it should be.

Andersson can be dealt at the draft - the return will still be excellent

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

He said 2 year retention deals came into play but they didn't want to do it.

Wonder if he is talking about Carlo.

probably, and I wouldn't do it for Timmins and Dewar.

[traptor]

I'd give the flames a C-.


They didn't make any bad trades. So that keeps them from being being a failing F or D.


They didn't make any good trades so that keeps them from being a A or B.

But there was obviously value to be had. Cozens went for fairly cheap. It was a hot sellers market.
The Flames failed to capitalize so that gives them the -.



Including the Frost + Farabee trade, I would change it to a C+.
I think that deal was good value. I don't think it was a homerun that some do, considering that they've been middle 6 forwards at the currently and historically.

[dino7c]

Wasnt much value for retention

Better to keep spots open

[Skaloper]

Originally Posted by PaperBagger'14

D grade from me.

Positives:
-Didn’t overpay for any tenured roster players
-Didn’t trade any draft capital for rentals

Negatives:
-Was unable to sell even one aging vet for a high return, despite many other trades with valuable assets changing hands.
-Didn’t acquire any younger players who’s age and contract status fit Conroys vision
-Team is trending towards a middling draft pick which will be sent to MTL
-Did not “weaponize” cap space for additional picks.

Could have been a worse TDL, but not by much.

I'm one who bases a grade on the past couple months as key deals were made prior to the TDL. A couple changes from the list you made.


B+ grade from me.


Positives:
-Made moves prior to the TDL that made sense!
-Rewarded a team for how hard they have fought all year without selling any players (As part of this it means they know MTL gets this years pick)

[Bonded]

Zary vs Cozens vs Norris will be interesting to watch over the years

[dammage79]

Flames D-day grade? I'll give them a C. Obviously acquisition costs were wild so there wasn't an appetite to add an LHD upgrade and the young RHS center costs weren't there without moving pieces most ppl think they should keep. Which is a smart move.

Now we watch to see how the final 20 games go for them and figure out how the draft and offseason may shake out.

[saillias]

After taking a walk I've thought about it and don't really have a problem with what's transpired.

If you moved the Frost/Farabee trade forward in time a month we'd all be celebrating.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by traptor

Cozens went for fairly cheap.

But Buffalo was firm on getting Zary back. I would have liked Cozens but I'm glad Conroy didn't do it.

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

That only happens if we fall out of race. We have to many forwards as is.

You're probably right. Huska will be trying to make the playoffs ahead of developing players currently on the Wranglers.

I'd still rather see Kerins as the 4th line C ahead of Rooney. Also Lomberg and Stromgren could rotate.

As far as the D goes, I don't think that Bean and Hanley have cemented their roster spots. Even though Hanley has played above and beyond my expectations on a pairing with Weegar.

[Dion]

Craig looking at the asking prices.

[PaperBagger'14]

Originally Posted by Skaloper

I'm one who bases a grade on the past couple months as key deals were made prior to the TDL. A couple changes from the list you made.


B+ grade from me.


Positives:
-Made moves prior to the TDL that made sense!
-Rewarded a team for how hard they have fought all year without selling any players (As part of this it means they know MTL gets this years pick)

If you include the frost / farabee trade then yeah, a C for me too.

[Roof-Daddy]

They added Frost and Farabee already, didn't have any high value UFAs to sell and didn't waste any pics on rentals themselves.

I'm fine with the way the TDL went.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Sometimes the best deals are the ones you don't make.

Not surprised, even though there were some pretty big moves made today by other teams, and I'm not disappointed in the slightest.

I didn't want the team spending any assets to pick up players. No more Treliving type deals bleeding picks to acquire someone who does almost nothing to help the club for a couple months. The only way that made sense is if they could get some good young players like they did in the Frost/Farabee deal.

I didn't want them gutting important players from this current team that's IN a playoff spot as I think that sends the wrong message. Only an overpayment would make sense, and many of the guys that were potentially available had NTC/NMC's that kept them out of play as well. Not worth alienating a guy over a possible trade at the deadline (see: lessons learned from Markstrom debacle, only to be traded a few months later). There weren't a lot of expendable veterans left on this team after the Kuzmenko/Pelletier trade. Mantha hurt; Rooney and Miromanov have no value; Vladar has more value to the team currently than the rumored 4th round pick that was being offered. It just didn't make sense today.

This club has moved a LOT of veterans off the roster over the last 2 seasons, acquiring a lot of draft capital and/or young players with potential. It is possible to have too many draft picks in the pipeline as you can't find playing and development room for all of them. At some point you have to use a different approach than just getting futures, and they're trying, but not a lot of those young and good players are available. If they are, you would have to move guys like Zary to get them, which is a lateral move at best.

I'm good with where this team is at. Still really early in this rebuild process. You won't always hit a homerun on a day like today, but you can sewer your process by making a move just to make a move.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Every year we say we are going to weaponize our cap space yet we see others do it and not us.

Can't believe this anymore if we put a huge premium that others don't.

Who did it? As far as I can tell, there were only two trades this season where a third team got involved to retain cap... Chicago in the COL-CAR Rantanen trade and Detroit in the Gourde trade.

As Conroy said, none of the deals announced so far today had any third party retention.

[Strange Brew]

It's disappointing that they couldn't capitalize on their cap space at the deadline.

But on the flip side, having cap space made it easier to swallow Farabee's contract and most teams probably would have been looking for retention or exclude the player entirely. So Conroy did use some of his cap space to extract value.

[Caboose]

I totally understand people disappointed with not selling given prices and the lack of excitement, but imo, I'm completely fine with the Flames doing nothing. Team stability is an underrated aspect here considering the turnover last year. I'll bet the players are pretty happy with a quiet deadline and that would go a long way with player/management relationships.

Keep the gang together as a reward for a hard fought season, hang onto the assets gained from last year, and if the offseason provides opportunities to sell, go for it!

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[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Dion

Craig looking at the asking prices.

That should have been other GM's looking at Craigs asking price.

Unless its a roster player for a roster player this team shouldn't be entertaining adding to this team at the expense of picks.