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Old 02-27-2025, 05:16 PM   #6661
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Well the tub alcove has to have tile or something on the walls there because it's also a shower. So it seemed simplest just to do the same tile as the floor. But as I say I seem to just have no design instincts for bathrooms so maybe you can switch it up or use some other product for those walls.
I'm a big fan of solid slab on the walls of showers/tubs. In my opinion the seamless large slabs look better because of consistency in the "movement." It also has the benefit that you don't have to worry about the grout failing in the future.
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Old 02-27-2025, 06:37 PM   #6662
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I'm a big fan of solid slab on the walls of showers/tubs. In my opinion the seamless large slabs look better because of consistency in the "movement." It also has the benefit that you don't have to worry about the grout failing in the future.
Are you a fan of the $100/sqft price too?
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Old 02-27-2025, 07:27 PM   #6663
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I guess you could get a solid panel look for cheaper with PVC. Not sure how that looks in person though.
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Old 02-27-2025, 07:46 PM   #6664
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Are you a fan of the $100/sqft price too?
I'm not a fan of $100/sqft but I also know that it can be done for significantly cheaper than that. It is not unreasonable to get into $60 range with stone that is still pretty nice.
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Old 02-27-2025, 07:57 PM   #6665
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I'm not a fan of $100/sqft but I also know that it can be done for significantly cheaper than that. It is not unreasonable to get into $60 range with stone that is still pretty nice.
You’ve seen it done for $60 in 2025?
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Old 02-27-2025, 08:16 PM   #6666
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You’ve seen it done for $60 in 2025?
Not in 2025 as I haven't been out shopping for it recently. In late 2023 there were some options down into the $60's. I've seen it cheaper as well when going with the plywood sized sheets like the stuff from Bolder Panels.
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Old 02-27-2025, 09:42 PM   #6667
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Old 02-27-2025, 10:25 PM   #6668
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Seriously? I wouldn't have thought it was much different for the tub surround, just using something like this instead of drywall and sealing all the seams and screws. I didn't realize it was more inolved.

https://thefloorbox.ca/products/hydr...BoCBDgQAvD_BwE
Yeah, the waterproofing isn't necessarily hugely labor intensive in terms of hours of active work. And to some extent I was conflating labor and consumables for the surround. So if you've already separately budgeted for the $5-600 or so for the board, sealant, and membrane, and then the mortar costs and whatnot, then that would change things and $2K would be a bit more reasonable (though I still think it'd be low).

The issue is, with smaller jobs like a single bathroom there are still the same number of steps and waiting periods as there are with bigger spaces. For instance, waterproofing the shower with that system involves 2 coats of liquid applied membrane on the joints, but each can take several hours to cure (and sometimes overnight). So just the surround has to get split over at least 3 (and maybe 4) days. And the floor is similar where there are several steps with cure time between them. So your 140 sq ft. bathroom might be 4-5 days of work, which is probably how long it'd take to do an open living space 5x that size. So the per square foot pricing on a bathroom with a tub surround can get pretty eye watering, but it's because the progress is a lot slower.
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Ok, but my crew will be there regardless dealing with various things in other parts of the house so I feel like that shouldn't be an issue.
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Old 02-28-2025, 06:38 AM   #6670
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If you want solid slab look (for walls) and ease of cleaning with less cost than stone, look into back-painted glass.
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Ok, but my crew will be there regardless dealing with various things in other parts of the house so I feel like that shouldn't be an issue.
Oh, I thought you were asking about hiring a tile setter. If someone from the crew who is already there is going to lay the tile, then yeah there'll be some efficiencies where they can do other random stuff while things are drying.

But that's not how any project with a General Contractor I've ever worked on is done (sometimes handyman type projects are different). Tile setters are pretty specialized and normally they do that and that only. So if it is a separate person coming in expressly to do the tile work, then there will be a price premium on a smaller job.
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I am, but why would you need the tile setter to do things like liquid membrane etc? I would think they would come in after everything is done up to the point where the tile needs to be installed. I would expect the drywall contractor to be doing the installation of the schluter material or whatever.
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Generally for tile work, and particularly for shower areas your tiler may want to do that himself, as the drywaller may leave him with a non-flat surface and especially with large tiles you need a really good flat surface if you want quality tile work.

Drywaller may think it is "flat enough" but he won't be the one having to deal with it not being perfect.
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Old 02-28-2025, 02:12 PM   #6674
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I am, but why would you need the tile setter to do things like liquid membrane etc? I would think they would come in after everything is done up to the point where the tile needs to be installed. I would expect the drywall contractor to be doing the installation of the schluter material or whatever.
As puckedoff said, the tiler generally does that part. They're guaranteeing the tile work and the quality of the substrate is a huge part of the integrity of the tile job. Drywallers don't normally do anything but drywall. There may be situations where they'd install cement board in a wet area, but they wouldn't normally do the waterproofing or anything; that would be up to the tiler.
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anyone have a recommendation for roofing companies? Need to replace my roof this summer and possibly going to be doing spray foam insulation from the outside on half the house. SO kind of considering using the spray foam company for roofing as well as it might hopefully make communication and scheduling easier I would hope. beyond the foam is the company.
Advanced Level Roofing. Were very professional and did a good job, as far as I can tell. Took pictures of the underlay(?) they put down and the roof repairs they did.
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Need some advice about the bathroom... here's the vanity I ended up with (too good a deal not to take).

So what do I do about tile etc? First is style; is larger tile (24x48) cheaper to install? Because that seems like the easiest route, but it seems like 4x'8' starts to get unwieldy and if it cracks would be a huge pain to replace.

As far as colour goes I'm generally pretty good about interior decorating stuff but I'm lost for bathrooms apparently because I simply have no idea what will look good. I was thinking maybe a grey tile for contrast given that the walls will be painted some version of white or off white but... yeah. Advice welcomed.

Clearly the cosmos and your subconscious have decided on the colour of the house and are communicating this through the vanity!
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Are you a fan of the $100/sqft price too?
In hindsight, one thing I learned about doing refreshes is to always get a quote when it comes to certain custom orders, sometimes the prices surprise and it's immediately worth considering vs automatically being eliminated as an option before even considering. I was surprising even my GC with certain options we perceived were top shelf, but didn't realize were actually within reach.

Some tiles and issues/concerns with tiles have significant concerns and more issues if installed incorrectly (leaking, crooked look, falling off etc.). Certain solid panels/solid panel and tile combos are inexpensive enough and basically guarantee to be issue free once complete because there's less specific locations of failure.

I learned this too late for cabinets. I kick myself to this day, especially with the meteoric rise in construction materials costs. Trimming an initial $3-10K from my initial grand plans probably means an extra $30-50K down the road vs basically $0 if done right the first time (modern cabinets for the time/features and floor project cut because no time). Redos cost time, money, disposal and waste. Those costs should be considered in certain scenarios. Sometimes it sounds like a lot of money (especially when the other prices blur into a larger project cost), but then you realize that the alternative cost for error/overruns/dissatisfaction etc. is multitudes of times more than the extra cost. Those are times you have to really think hard about what to do.

Bathroom tiles are absolutely one of those. A bad scenario could mean remediation costs, damage to tub/floor/wall repairs and replacements etc. Even if it costs you $0 to replace because warranty and insurance and whatever, it's still a major time and effort thing that no one really wants to go through. IIRC, there's also more than one method to install tile in a bathroom, some more robust than others. IMO, don't look at the tile purely at a cost per tile POV. Look at it from a cost per tile, cost for install and time for install + time for drying. If you're on a time crunch, a one piece can buy you the time you need to avoid other time related overruns elsewhere.

For instance if it's intricate tile that needs lots of brackets, cost for install goes up/cost and risk for failure goes up. Larger, heavier tiles may need bracing and/or more care in the installation to avoid falling off, sagging/crooked look etc. A one piece look might cost more, but the install time overall is a lot less (can always just do one piece for bottom to top, then tile above the one piece to achieve the desired height). I did have a bathroom tile situation where the GC had to redo some shoddy work, and then rip out all of the work to redo properly when he realized it wasn't repairable and that they didn't put waterproofing on the other side of the tile (on his own dime too).
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Clearly the cosmos and your subconscious have decided on the colour of the house and are communicating this through the vanity!
Hah, it is actually kind of similar to the deep ocean, albeit lighter. But I've basically settled on the green. I think it's been ordered.
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hah, it is actually kind of similar to the deep ocean, albeit lighter. But i've basically settled on the green. I think it's been ordered.
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Hey, at least the exterior will be temporarily blue while they put on the membrane.

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