Yeah we've seen some... preliminary drawings I guess you could call it, not really renders at this point. Going to look somewhat like the refurbished Concourse C when done. Nobody will outright say that the hail was a good thing, but B was definitely the ugliest part of any major airport in the country before the storm.
Next summer will definitely have a few operational hiccups with no B gates for the entire summer, despite the claims of "no operational impact" by the airport authority.
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RFP is out for prime consultants for the rebuilding and upgrading/modernization of Concourse B.
Construction work intended to stat in July 2025, and be complete July 2026 - with retail fit out extending beyond that.
Has B remained closed since the hail storm? And will it remain closed until construction starts? If so, why not just get ‘er started sooner?
I was in the airport a month ago and B was still completely boarded up, so I am guessing that it will stay that way until they can fix it properly vs. patching things up.
I can't say I've walked through any part of the Calgary airport this past year and thought it looks nice. It's all pretty stale, pale colored and airporty with boring to mediocre restaurant choices at almost Saddledome prices. I guess that's what you get for a mid sized city.
I don't know, I heard about all the crazy renovations and everything they did seems kind of bland lacking soul.
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I can't say I've walked through any part of the Calgary airport this past year and thought it looks nice. It's all pretty stale, pale colored and airporty with boring to mediocre restaurant choices at almost Saddledome prices. I guess that's what you get for a mid sized city.
I don't know, I heard about all the crazy renovations and everything they did seems kind of bland lacking soul.
Count your blessings on the bolded, I paid over $15 USD before tip for a pint of beer at an airport in the states recently.
I can't say I've walked through any part of the Calgary airport this past year and thought it looks nice.
I'd have to disagree. The newly refurb'd end of the C pier is pretty nice, just too many gates in a small area. The new international terminal is objectively nice, just dysfunctional. The airport objectively sucks from a functionality perspective, but making it look nice is something they're actually capable of doing.
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Has B remained closed since the hail storm? And will it remain closed until construction starts? If so, why not just get ‘er started sooner?
Yeah it's closed still, they're still working on it by ripping stuff out and getting prepped for the refurb I guess. July does seem a late start though.
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I'd have to disagree. The newly refurb'd end of the C pier is pretty nice, just too many gates in a small area. The new international terminal is objectively nice, just dysfunctional. The airport objectively sucks from a functionality perspective, but making it look nice is something they're actually capable of doing.
I mean, that's all true. But as someone who flies regularly I'd 100% prefer 80s black and white asbestos tiles in a functional space than what we have now. For the amount of money we spent on this (and since it was paid for by flyers I can say we) I can't believe how poorly it is designed.
I mean, that's all true. But as someone who flies regularly I'd 100% prefer 80s black and white asbestos tiles in a functional space than what we have now. For the amount of money we spent on this (and since it was paid for by flyers I can say we) I can't believe how poorly it is designed.
It's kind of incredible how poorly run YYC is. It's almost like the leadership have limited experience in how airports operate.
For the expansion I would have thought they would have said "We like how the terminal at XYZ airport operates, let's use that as a starting point".
If they had done that we would have ended up with a B+ or A- terminal that reminds us of other good airport terminals. Instead we innovated a unique D+ or C- terminal that is a one-of-a-kind.
For the expansion I would have thought they would have said "We like how the terminal at XYZ airport operates, let's use that as a starting point".
That's exactly what they did, and they did it reasonably well.
The problem is that the modus operandi of the airports they modeled don't really jive with North American travellers, so it flopped. Then, they took far too long to acknowledge it was a flop.
Porter is the superior airline. The only reason I still use westjet is because of codeshare with KLM & Delta.
Yeah if you have connections to make or during irregular ops Porter just didn’t have the options to help us. Their response was we have a flight for you, in two weeks…lol. And since they are a small airline they aren’t required to book you or compensate you.
The real reason: someone forgot to taxi the plane to the hanger.
That is almost surely not the reason, given that 99.5% of the time the plane is towed to the hangar and not taxiied.
With the B gates being closed for hail, they very often fall behind on tows... and the weather is unleashing havoc on equipment. Nobody "forgot" anything, but it's not unusual for pilots to throw their own crews under the bus.
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Porter is the superior airline. The only reason I still use westjet is because of codeshare with KLM & Delta.
And if you're going somewhere other than YYZ, YOW or YUL...
Pilots generally aren't sure why their plane is or isn't there yet. They just know what gate to go to and what tail is supposed to be there
Yeah. What happens too is that the tow crew can't bring the plane back from the hangar to the gate if it isn't released by maintenance yet. So tow crew gets to the hangar at 4:30 for a flight out at 5:30, but maintenance is still working on the plane so they hang around for a bit, but then tow crew had to be at a different gate for a gate-to-gate tow for a flight in at 4:50 out at 6:00, and maybe that flight is critical for connections or crew duty time or has a flow time for SFO so now the first flight that was a late release is now on the back burner... well it becomes quite apparent that there's a million moving parts in the operation and "they forgot" ain't the answer.
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That is almost surely not the reason, given that 99.5% of the time the plane is towed to the hangar and not taxiied.
With the B gates being closed for hail, they very often fall behind on tows... and the weather is unleashing havoc on equipment. Nobody "forgot" anything, but it's not unusual for pilots to throw their own crews under the bus.
And if you're going somewhere other than YYZ, YOW or YUL...
The Q400s get taxied to/from the hanger by maintenance.
Yeah. What happens too is that the tow crew can't bring the plane back from the hangar to the gate if it isn't released by maintenance yet. So tow crew gets to the hangar at 4:30 for a flight out at 5:30, but maintenance is still working on the plane so they hang around for a bit, but then tow crew had to be at a different gate for a gate-to-gate tow for a flight in at 4:50 out at 6:00, and maybe that flight is critical for connections or crew duty time or has a flow time for SFO so now the first flight that was a late release is now on the back burner... well it becomes quite apparent that there's a million moving parts in the operation and "they forgot" ain't the answer.
Plus it's cold, so Unifi had 100+ sick calls guaranteed
Granted tow team is the only group of Unifi that seems to have their #### together
